RE: Powerhouse Web

From marc.vandemeerssche@nationalesuisse.be Tue Jul 1 13:35:23 2003 From: marc.vandemeerssche@nationalesuisse.be (VAN DE MEERSSCHE Marc) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 14:35:23 +0200 Subject: Powerhouse Web Message-ID: Question. We wrote a quick program (qks) that retrieves a lot of data that we want to use for constructing a pdf-file. We have +- 500 fields. By displaying the corresponding html-template, only the first hundred fields are filled in. Is there a limit in the number of fields, or must we change it with a qkgo-file (and how ?) ? or Is there a limit in some memory-buffer (like PH:RECORD_ID) ? Thanks, Marc From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Tue Jul 1 13:54:22 2003 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 08:54:22 -0400 Subject: Powerhouse Web Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C33FCF.E48A60C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There is a limit of 255 fields on a screen in QUICK (as documented in the QDESIGN reference manual) and since PowerHouse Web uses the same engine, you'll have the same limit on a page. Not sure why you're only getting 100 fields filled in on the page. It may have something to do with generated ID numbers, but I'd be guessing. Internally, since PowerHouse Web uses the same engine as QUICK, it also uses ID numbers for processing. If the field limit is 255, I'd have thought that the ID processing limit was the same. On this one, I suggest contacting Customer Support so you can submit a test case. If you're putting together text, you may be able to concatenate items/columns into temporary items and get around the absolute field limit. Another possibility will be with the new version (available now on NT/2000/XP and UNIX) is to modify the HTML template to directly reference the item value of a character item rather than a field. Notice that the field value references are . In 2.4x, you can use for character items to directly get at the item value. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: VAN DE MEERSSCHE Marc [mailto:marc.vandemeerssche@nationalesuisse.be] Sent: July 1, 2003 8:35 AM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Powerhouse Web Question. We wrote a quick program (qks) that retrieves a lot of data that we want to use for constructing a pdf-file. We have +- 500 fields. By displaying the corresponding html-template, only the first hundred fields are filled in. Is there a limit in the number of fields, or must we change it with a qkgo-file (and how ?) ? or Is there a limit in some memory-buffer (like PH:RECORD_ID) ? Thanks, Marc = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C33FCF.E48A60C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Powerhouse Web

There is a limit of 255 fields on a screen in QUICK = (as documented in the QDESIGN reference manual) and since PowerHouse = Web uses the same engine, you'll have the same limit on a = page.

Not sure why you're only getting 100 fields filled in = on the page. It may have something to do with generated ID numbers, but = I'd be guessing. Internally, since PowerHouse Web uses the same engine = as QUICK, it also uses ID numbers for processing. If the field limit is = 255, I'd have thought that the ID processing limit was the = same.

On this one, I suggest contacting Customer Support so = you can submit a test case.

If you're putting together text, you may be able to = concatenate items/columns into temporary items and get around the = absolute field limit.

Another possibility will be with the new version = (available now on NT/2000/XP and UNIX) is to modify the HTML template = to directly reference the item value of a character item rather than a = field. Notice that the field value references are = . In 2.4x, you can use =  for character items to directly get at = the item value.

Bob = Deskin =
Product Manager, Application Development = Tools
Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 = CANADA
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268

-----Original Message-----
From: VAN DE MEERSSCHE Marc
[mailto:marc.vande= meerssche@nationalesuisse.be]
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Subject: Powerhouse Web

Question.

We wrote a quick program (qks) that retrieves a lot = of data that we want to
use for constructing a pdf-file.
We have +- 500 fields.

By displaying the corresponding html-template, only = the first hundred fields
are filled in.

Is there a limit in the number of fields, or must we = change it with a
qkgo-file (and how ?) ?
or
Is there a limit in some memory-buffer (like = PH:RECORD_ID) ?

Thanks,
Marc

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Does your screen have any "bad" (as far as HTML is concerned) element names or data with embedded quotes '"' '"'? Richard S Sheehan 425.452.6177 Business Systems Analyst City of Bellevue, WA -----Original Message----- From: VAN DE MEERSSCHE Marc [mailto:marc.vandemeerssche@nationalesuisse.be] Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 5:35 AM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Powerhouse Web Question. We wrote a quick program (qks) that retrieves a lot of data that we want to use for constructing a pdf-file. We have +- 500 fields. By displaying the corresponding html-template, only the first hundred fields are filled in. Is there a limit in the number of fields, or must we change it with a qkgo-file (and how ?) ? or Is there a limit in some memory-buffer (like PH:RECORD_ID) ? Thanks, Marc = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Mikael.Olesen@qss-uk.com Wed Jul 2 09:17:27 2003 From: Mikael.Olesen@qss-uk.com (Mikael.Olesen@qss-uk.com) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:17:27 +0100 Subject: TPU editor Message-ID: <37AD201F196CD311A6BC00508B0927E902FF4651@rbiohhex01.qhs.rbi.gni> Hello Just started at a new PH job in Sussex and the company runs PH on VMS. Does anyone out there now of a list of functions for the TPU editor? I am used to the emacs editor and feel very down-graded.... A great day to you all! 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Although it�s a single app, it�s a core system handling high revenue. One thought I have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?). My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I�m particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to printers. What databases are you using? The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web? Any other observations or thoughts welcome! Thanks, Luan Ha Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Wed Jul 2 15:04:17 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 09:04:17 -0500 Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01952839@BLISTEXEXC> G'day Luan I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC. Points: 1. no 'green' screen available until the new version comes out (soon?). The Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant to be run under PH Web. The response time is pretty good though, especially as we had users connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from across the country. 2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the above data sources. 3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks. However you can improve performance by incorporating embedded SQL and database stored procedures. For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu except for the rare circumstances where only Quiz will do. The version due out soon has 'green' screen capability. I don't know if Reflection supports W2K as a server though. Good luck, Blue -----Original Message----- From: lha@bigpond.net.au [mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it's a single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One thought I have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?). My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to printers. What databases are you using? The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web? Any other observations or thoughts welcome! Thanks, Luan Ha Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From hawksj@yahoo.com Wed Jul 2 15:09:17 2003 From: hawksj@yahoo.com (Jon (Jarod) Hawks) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 07:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030702140917.29760.qmail@web41412.mail.yahoo.com> --0-640801547-1057154957=:27396 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can you describe the platform running NT/W2K? #cpus, #RAM, Disk Capacity, LAN speeds "lha@bigpond.net.au" wrote: One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it�s a single app, it�s a core system handling high revenue. One thought I have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?). My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I�m particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to printers. What databases are you using? The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web? Any other observations or thoughts welcome! Thanks, Luan Ha Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. --0-640801547-1057154957=:27396 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Can you describe the platform running NT/W2K? #cpus, #RAM, Disk Capacity, LAN speeds

"lha@bigpond.net.au" <lha@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running
MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to
move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the
job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of
dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now
but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it�s a
single app, it�s a core system handling high revenue. One thought I
have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly
using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?).

My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I�m
particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to
printers. What databases are you using?
The client is happy to continue with text-! based screens - they
currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options
for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be
customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web?
Any other observations or thoughts welcome!

Thanks,

Luan Ha
Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd.

Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au

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--0-640801547-1057154957=:27396-- From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Wed Jul 2 16:02:04 2003 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 11:02:04 -0400 Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340AA.E5D2EED0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The "green" screen capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on Windows NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June 23. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration G'day Luan I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC. Points: 1. no 'green' screen available until the new version comes out (soon?). The Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant to be run under PH Web. The response time is pretty good though, especially as we had users connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from across the country. 2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the above data sources. 3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks. However you can improve performance by incorporating embedded SQL and database stored procedures. For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu except for the rare circumstances where only Quiz will do. The version due out soon has 'green' screen capability. I don't know if Reflection supports W2K as a server though. Good luck, Blue -----Original Message----- From: lha@bigpond.net.au [mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it's a single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One thought I have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?). My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to printers. What databases are you using? The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web? Any other observations or thoughts welcome! Thanks, Luan Ha Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340AA.E5D2EED0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

The "green" screen capability, in other = words QUICK, is now available for order on Windows NT/2000/XP. It's = version 8.41 and was officially released June 23.

Bob = Deskin =
Product Manager, Application Development Tools, = Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: = (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON = K1G 4K9 CANADA

-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

G'day Luan

I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 = database via MS ODBC
AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC.

Points:
1. no 'green' screen available until the new version = comes out (soon?). The
Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant = to be run under PH Web.
The response time is pretty good though, especially = as we had users
connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from = across the country.
2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the = above data sources.
3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks. = However you can improve
performance by incorporating embedded SQL and = database stored procedures.
For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu = except for the rare
circumstances where only Quiz will do.

The version due out soon has 'green' screen = capability. I don't know if
Reflection supports W2K as a server = though.

Good luck,

Blue

-----Original Message-----
From: lha@bigpond.net.au [mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au]=
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an = old HP3000 running
MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large = multi-national who want to
move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find = that PH does the
job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a = whole heap of
dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing = what it does now
but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. = Although it's a
single app, it's a core system handling high = revenue. One thought I
have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server = platform, possibly
using the Eloquence database (PH version due late = this year?).

My questions: what is your experience with running PH = on Win NT/2K? I'm
particularly interested in performance, reliability, = interface to
printers. What databases are you using?
The client is happy to continue with text-based = screens - they
currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users = plenty of options
for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT = combination also be
customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH = Web?
Any other observations or thoughts welcome!

Thanks,

Luan Ha
Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd.

Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C340AA.E5D2EED0-- From tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com Wed Jul 2 19:15:29 2003 From: tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com (Tim Cummings) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:15:29 -0400 Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340C5.EB0BA610 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Does the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a regular window? -----Original Message----- From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:02 AM To: 'Edis, Robert'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration The "green" screen capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on Windows NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June 23. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [ mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com ] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration G'day Luan I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC. Points: 1. no 'green' screen available until the new version comes out (soon?). The Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant to be run under PH Web. The response time is pretty good though, especially as we had users connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from across the country. 2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the above data sources. 3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks. However you can improve performance by incorporating embedded SQL and database stored procedures. For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu except for the rare circumstances where only Quiz will do. The version due out soon has 'green' screen capability. I don't know if Reflection supports W2K as a server though. Good luck, Blue -----Original Message----- From: lha@bigpond.net.au [ mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au ] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it's a single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One thought I have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?). My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to printers. What databases are you using? The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web? Any other observations or thoughts welcome! Thanks, Luan Ha Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340C5.EB0BA610 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

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-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July = 02, 2003 11:02 AM
To: 'Edis, Robert'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse = HP3000 Migration

The "green" screen = capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on Windows NT/2000/XP. = It's version 8.41 and was officially released June 23.=

Bob Deskin =
Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos = Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) = 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G = 4K9 CANADA = =

-----Original = Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 = Migration =

G'day Luan

I have used PH 8.24 on W2K = against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC
AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx = ODBC. =

Points:
1. no 'green' screen available until the new version comes = out (soon?). The
Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant to be = run under PH Web. =
The response time is pretty good though, especially as we = had users =
connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from across = the country. =
2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the above = data sources. =
3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks. = However you can improve
performance by incorporating embedded SQL and database = stored procedures.
For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu except = for the rare
circumstances where only Quiz will do. =

The version due out soon has = 'green' screen capability. I don't know if
Reflection supports W2K as a server = though. =

Good luck,

Blue

-----Original = Message-----
From: lha@bigpond.net.au [mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au]=
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration =

One of my clients has a single = PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running
MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national = who want to
move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that = PH does the
job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole = heap of
dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what = it does now
but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. = Although it's a
single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One = thought I
have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly
using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this = year?). =

My questions: what is your = experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm
particularly interested in performance, reliability, = interface to
printers. What databases are you using?
The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - = they
currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty = of options
for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT = combination also be
customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH = Web?
Any other observations or thoughts = welcome! =

Thanks,

Luan Ha
Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. =

Email address : = lha@bigpond.net.au =

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C340C5.EB0BA610-- From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Wed Jul 2 19:34:52 2003 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:34:52 -0400 Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340C8.A086EDE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Normally you would run it in a "DOS" window (i.e. the Command Console window). You can use a Telnet client if it emulates the DOS window, but there aren't many that do. However, since the cost is the same (we license by user count) you're better off running on the PC rather than as a client. You can still access remote databases and use remote screens (i.e. use PROCLOC to point to a network drive). I wrote an article in SupportLink a few months ago about this. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: Tim Cummings [mailto:tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:15 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Does the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a regular window? -----Original Message----- From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:02 AM To: 'Edis, Robert'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration The "green" screen capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on Windows NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June 23. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [ mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com ] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration G'day Luan I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC. Points: 1. no 'green' screen available until the new version comes out (soon?). The Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant to be run under PH Web. The response time is pretty good though, especially as we had users connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from across the country. 2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the above data sources. 3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks. However you can improve performance by incorporating embedded SQL and database stored procedures. For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu except for the rare circumstances where only Quiz will do. The version due out soon has 'green' screen capability. I don't know if Reflection supports W2K as a server though. Good luck, Blue -----Original Message----- From: lha@bigpond.net.au [ mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au ] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it's a single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One thought I have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?). My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to printers. What databases are you using? The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web? Any other observations or thoughts welcome! Thanks, Luan Ha Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. 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Normally you would run it in a "DOS" window (i.e. the Command = Console=20 window). You can use a Telnet client if it emulates the DOS window, but = there=20 aren't many that do. However, since the cost is the same (we license by = user=20 count) you're better off running on the PC rather than as a client. You = can=20 still access remote databases and use remote screens (i.e. use PROCLOC = to point=20 to a network drive).

I=20 wrote an article in SupportLink a few months ago about = this.

Bob=20 Deskin = =20
Product Manager, Application = Development=20 Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com=20 (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9=20 CANADA

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Cummings=20 [mailto:tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, July=20 02, 2003 2:15 PM
To: = powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE:=20 Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

Does=20 the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a regular=20 window?

=
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Deskin,=20 Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 = 11:02=20 AM
To: 'Edis, = Robert';=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 = Migration

The "green" = screen=20 capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on = Windows=20 NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June=20 23.

Bob=20 = Deskin = =20
Product Manager, Application = Development=20 Tools, Cognos Inc.=20
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) = 738-1338 ext=20 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box = 9707 Stn.=20 T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA

-----Original=20 Message-----=20
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, July 02,=20 2003 10:04 AM=20
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse = HP3000=20 Migration=20

G'day=20 Luan=20

I have used PH = 8.24 on W2K=20 against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC
AND RMS and = DB2 databases=20 via Connx ODBC.=20

Points:
1. no 'green' = screen=20 available until the new version comes out (soon?). =20 The=20
Quick engine is for design = purposes only=20 and meant to be run under PH Web.
The response time is pretty = good though,=20 especially as we had users
connecting to the PH Web = forms over 56k=20 modems from across the country.
2. QTP works fast and well = connecting to=20 all the above data sources.
3. Quiz performance against = SQL Server=20 sucks. However you can improve
performance by incorporating = embedded=20 SQL and database stored procedures.
For reporting I'd recommend = converting=20 to Impromptu except for the rare
circumstances where only Quiz = will=20 do.=20

The version = due out soon=20 has 'green' screen capability. I don't know = if
Reflection = supports =20 W2K as a server though.

Good=20 luck,=20

Blue

-----Original=20 Message-----=20
From: lha@bigpond.net.au [mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au]=
Sent: = Wednesday, July 02,=20 2003 8:51 AM=20
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Powerhouse HP3000=20 Migration=20

One of my = clients has a=20 single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running
MPE/iX v 7.0. = The client is=20 part of a large multi-national who want to
move away from = the HP3000=20 platform. However, we find that PH does the
job well and = the client is=20 very reluctant to spend a whole heap of
dollars re-writing the app = which would=20 end up doing what it does now
but at higher cost and = possibly lower=20 reliability. Although it's a
single app, it's a core = system handling=20 high revenue. One thought I
have is to move to PH on a = Windows=20 NT/W2K server platform, possibly
using the Eloquence database = (PH version=20 due late this year?).

My questions: = what is your=20 experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm
particularly = interested in=20 performance, reliability, interface to
printers. What databases are = you=20 using? =
The client is happy to = continue with=20 text-based screens - they
currently use WQR Reflection = which gives=20 the users plenty of options
for customising the display = etc. Can the=20 PH/Win NT combination also be
customised in this way = without going to=20 Axiant or PH Web?=20
Any other observations or = thoughts=20 welcome!=20

Thanks,

Luan = Ha
Principal = Consultant, Padys=20 Pty Ltd.=20

Email address = :=20 lha@bigpond.net.au=20

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C340C8.A086EDE0-- From Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM Wed Jul 2 19:50:03 2003 From: Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM (Whittall, Conrad) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:50:03 -0400 Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Message-ID: <9BB2C83BBB6AD7119554000802FF51B8438F4F@sottexch3.cognos.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340CA.BF81C470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Of course another option you might consider if you want to run the application on a Windows server, rather than on each user's desktop, is to look into using Windows Terminal Services. The app will still be running in a DOS box, its just that all of your users will be running different DOS boxes on the same machine...so you only have one machine to worry about deploying the application to. Obviously you still need the same number of PH licensed users...just as you would if you deployed to a UNIX box. Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] Sent: 2 July 2003 14:35 To: 'Tim Cummings'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Normally you would run it in a "DOS" window (i.e. the Command Console window). You can use a Telnet client if it emulates the DOS window, but there aren't many that do. However, since the cost is the same (we license by user count) you're better off running on the PC rather than as a client. You can still access remote databases and use remote screens (i.e. use PROCLOC to point to a network drive). I wrote an article in SupportLink a few months ago about this. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: Tim Cummings [mailto:tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:15 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Does the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a regular window? -----Original Message----- From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:02 AM To: 'Edis, Robert'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration The "green" screen capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on Windows NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June 23. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [ mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com ] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration G'day Luan I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC. Points: 1. no 'green' screen available until the new version comes out (soon?). The Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant to be run under PH Web. The response time is pretty good though, especially as we had users connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from across the country. 2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the above data sources. 3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks. However you can improve performance by incorporating embedded SQL and database stored procedures. For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu except for the rare circumstances where only Quiz will do. The version due out soon has 'green' screen capability. I don't know if Reflection supports W2K as a server though. Good luck, Blue -----Original Message----- From: lha@bigpond.net.au [ mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au ] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it's a single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One thought I have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?). My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to printers. What databases are you using? The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web? Any other observations or thoughts welcome! Thanks, Luan Ha Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. 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Of = course another=20 option you might consider if you want to run the application on a = Windows=20 server, rather than on each user's desktop, is to look into using = Windows=20 Terminal Services. The app will still be running in a DOS box, its just = that all=20 of your users will be running different DOS boxes on the same = machine...so you=20 only have one machine to worry about deploying the application to. = Obviously you=20 still need the same number of PH licensed users...just as you would if = you=20 deployed to a UNIX box.

Best=20 regards,
Conrad

Conrad=20 Whittall
Solutions=20 Architect, Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, = Ottawa, Ontario,=20 K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob=20 [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: 2 July 2003 = 14:35
To:=20 'Tim Cummings'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: = Powerhouse HP3000=20 Migration

I=20 wrote an article in SupportLink a few months ago about = this.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Cummings=20 [mailto:tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, July=20 02, 2003 2:15 PM
To: = powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE:=20 Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

Does=20 the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a regular=20 window?

=
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: = Deskin,=20 Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 = 11:02=20 AM
To: 'Edis, = Robert';=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 = Migration

The "green" = screen=20 capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on = Windows=20 NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June=20 23.

Bob=20 = Deskin = =20
Product Manager, Application = Development=20 Tools, Cognos Inc.=20
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) = 738-1338 ext=20 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box = 9707 Stn.=20 T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA

-----Original=20 Message-----=20
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, July 02,=20 2003 10:04 AM=20
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse = HP3000=20 Migration=20

G'day=20 Luan=20

I have used PH = 8.24 on W2K=20 against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC
AND RMS and = DB2 databases=20 via Connx ODBC.=20

Points:
1. no 'green' = screen=20 available until the new version comes out (soon?). =20 The=20
Quick engine is for design = purposes only=20 and meant to be run under PH Web.
The response time is pretty = good though,=20 especially as we had users
connecting to the PH Web = forms over 56k=20 modems from across the country.
2. QTP works fast and well = connecting to=20 all the above data sources.
3. Quiz performance against = SQL Server=20 sucks. However you can improve
performance by incorporating = embedded=20 SQL and database stored procedures.
For reporting I'd recommend = converting=20 to Impromptu except for the rare
circumstances where only Quiz = will=20 do.=20

The version = due out soon=20 has 'green' screen capability. I don't know = if
Reflection = supports =20 W2K as a server though.

Good=20 luck,=20

Blue

-----Original=20 Message-----=20
From: lha@bigpond.net.au [mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au]=
Sent: = Wednesday, July 02,=20 2003 8:51 AM=20
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Powerhouse HP3000=20 Migration=20

One of my = clients has a=20 single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running
MPE/iX v 7.0. = The client is=20 part of a large multi-national who want to
move away from = the HP3000=20 platform. However, we find that PH does the
job well and = the client is=20 very reluctant to spend a whole heap of
dollars re-writing the app = which would=20 end up doing what it does now
but at higher cost and = possibly lower=20 reliability. Although it's a
single app, it's a core = system handling=20 high revenue. One thought I
have is to move to PH on a = Windows=20 NT/W2K server platform, possibly
using the Eloquence database = (PH version=20 due late this year?).

My questions: = what is your=20 experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm
particularly = interested in=20 performance, reliability, interface to
printers. What databases are = you=20 using? =
The client is happy to = continue with=20 text-based screens - they
currently use WQR Reflection = which gives=20 the users plenty of options
for customising the display = etc. Can the=20 PH/Win NT combination also be
customised in this way = without going to=20 Axiant or PH Web?=20
Any other observations or = thoughts=20 welcome!=20

Thanks,

Luan = Ha
Principal = Consultant, Padys=20 Pty Ltd.=20

Email address = :=20 lha@bigpond.net.au=20

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C340CA.BF81C470-- From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Wed Jul 2 20:05:15 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 14:05:15 -0500 Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01952B78@BLISTEXEXC> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340CC.DF1F6AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" But be warned! Cognos support will give you grief if you say you are running the software remotely via Terminal Services, pcAnywhere, etc. as it is a 'non-supported' environment. This has happened to me repeatedly. :( Blue -----Original Message----- From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:50 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Of course another option you might consider if you want to run the application on a Windows server, rather than on each user's desktop, is to look into using Windows Terminal Services. The app will still be running in a DOS box, its just that all of your users will be running different DOS boxes on the same machine...so you only have one machine to worry about deploying the application to. Obviously you still need the same number of PH licensed users...just as you would if you deployed to a UNIX box. Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] Sent: 2 July 2003 14:35 To: 'Tim Cummings'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Normally you would run it in a "DOS" window (i.e. the Command Console window). You can use a Telnet client if it emulates the DOS window, but there aren't many that do. However, since the cost is the same (we license by user count) you're better off running on the PC rather than as a client. You can still access remote databases and use remote screens (i.e. use PROCLOC to point to a network drive). I wrote an article in SupportLink a few months ago about this. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: Tim Cummings [mailto:tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:15 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Does the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a regular window? -----Original Message----- From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:02 AM To: 'Edis, Robert'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration The "green" screen capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on Windows NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June 23. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [ mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com ] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration G'day Luan I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC. Points: 1. no 'green' screen available until the new version comes out (soon?). The Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant to be run under PH Web. The response time is pretty good though, especially as we had users connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from across the country. 2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the above data sources. 3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks. However you can improve performance by incorporating embedded SQL and database stored procedures. For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu except for the rare circumstances where only Quiz will do. The version due out soon has 'green' screen capability. I don't know if Reflection supports W2K as a server though. Good luck, Blue -----Original Message----- From: lha@bigpond.net.au [ mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au ] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it's a single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One thought I have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?). My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to printers. What databases are you using? The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web? Any other observations or thoughts welcome! Thanks, Luan Ha Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. 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If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340CC.DF1F6AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

But be=20 warned! Cognos support will give you grief if you say you are = running the=20 software remotely via Terminal Services, pcAnywhere, etc. as it is = a=20 'non-supported' environment.

This=20 has happened to me repeatedly. :(

Blue

-----Original Message-----
From: Whittall, Conrad=20 [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July = 02, 2003=20 1:50 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE:=20 Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

Of course=20 another option you might consider if you want to run the application = on a=20 Windows server, rather than on each user's desktop, is to look into = using=20 Windows Terminal Services. The app will still be running in a DOS = box, its=20 just that all of your users will be running different DOS boxes on = the same=20 machine...so you only have one machine to worry about deploying the=20 application to. Obviously you still need the same number of PH = licensed=20 users...just as you would if you deployed to a UNIX = box.

Best=20 regards,
Conrad

Conrad=20 Whittall
Solutions=20 Architect, Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, = Ottawa,=20 Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob=20 [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: 2 July 2003 = 14:35
To:=20 'Tim Cummings'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: = Powerhouse=20 HP3000 Migration

Normally you would run it in a "DOS" window (i.e. the = Command Console=20 window). You can use a Telnet client if it emulates the DOS window, = but there=20 aren't many that do. However, since the cost is the same (we license = by user=20 count) you're better off running on the PC rather than as a client. = You can=20 still access remote databases and use remote screens (i.e. use = PROCLOC to=20 point to a network drive).

I=20 wrote an article in SupportLink a few months ago about=20 this.

Bob=20 = Deskin = =20
Product Manager, Application = Development=20 Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com=20 (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 = CANADA

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Cummings=20 [mailto:tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, July=20 02, 2003 2:15 PM
To: = powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject:=20 RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

Does=20 the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a = regular=20 window?

=
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Deskin,=20 Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, = 2003 11:02=20 AM
To: 'Edis, = Robert';=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse = HP3000=20 Migration

The "green" = screen=20 capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on = Windows=20 NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June=20 23.

Bob=20 = Deskin = =20
Product Manager, = Application=20 Development Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) = 738-1338=20 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. = Box 9707=20 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA

-----Original=20 Message-----=20
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, July 02,=20 2003 10:04 AM=20
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse = HP3000=20 Migration=20

G'day=20 Luan =

I have used = PH 8.24 on=20 W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS = ODBC
AND RMS and = DB2 databases=20 via Connx ODBC.=20

Points:
1. no = 'green' screen=20 available until the new version comes out (soon?). =20 The=20
Quick engine is for design = purposes=20 only and meant to be run under PH Web.
The response time is pretty = good=20 though, especially as we had users
connecting to the PH Web = forms over=20 56k modems from across the country.
2. QTP works fast and well = connecting=20 to all the above data sources.
3. Quiz performance against = SQL Server=20 sucks. However you can improve
performance by = incorporating embedded=20 SQL and database stored procedures.
For reporting I'd recommend = converting=20 to Impromptu except for the rare
circumstances where only = Quiz will=20 do.=20

The version = due out soon=20 has 'green' screen capability. I don't know = if
Reflection = supports =20 W2K as a server though.

Good=20 luck,=20

Blue

-----Original=20 Message-----=20
From: lha@bigpond.net.au = [mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au]=
Sent: = Wednesday, July 02,=20 2003 8:51 AM=20
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Powerhouse HP3000=20 Migration=20

One of my = clients has a=20 single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running
MPE/iX v = 7.0. The client=20 is part of a large multi-national who want to
move away = from the HP3000=20 platform. However, we find that PH does the
job well and = the client=20 is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of
dollars = re-writing the=20 app which would end up doing what it does now
but at = higher cost and=20 possibly lower reliability. Although it's a
single app, = it's a core=20 system handling high revenue. One thought I
have is to = move to PH on=20 a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly
using the = Eloquence=20 database (PH version due late this year?).

My = questions: what is=20 your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm =
particularly = interested=20 in performance, reliability, interface to
printers. = What databases=20 are you using?=20
The client is happy to = continue with=20 text-based screens - they
currently use WQR = Reflection which=20 gives the users plenty of options
for customising the display = etc. Can=20 the PH/Win NT combination also be
customised in this way = without going=20 to Axiant or PH Web?
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C340CC.DF1F6AB0-- From Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM Wed Jul 2 20:35:52 2003 From: Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM (Whittall, Conrad) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 15:35:52 -0400 Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Message-ID: <9BB2C83BBB6AD7119554000802FF51B8438F53@sottexch3.cognos.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340D1.26241FB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" While it is true that Cognos does not officially support the use of its products under Windows Terminal Services, Microsoft claim that this environment is identical to running on a regular Windows platform and transparent to the application itself. Hence, any issue that manifests itself with any product under WTS, not just Cognos ones, should be easily reproducible under Windows 2000 or Windows XP. In that case it should be easy to provide Customer Support with a test case that reproduces the problem in a supported environment (which is probably how you'd be developing the application in any case). The same goes for other WTS-like products (Citrix, etc.). Since they claim 100% compatibility with Windows any problems seen with a PH app should be reproducible under Windows 2000/XP. If they are not, then the problem probably lies with the terminal server product being used. This situation is similar to that seen with ODBC drivers. Since Cognos cannot test and support every ODBC driver out there, if an issue can be reproduced with one of the tested/supported drivers then it will likely be acknowledged as an issue with the Cognos product. If it can't be reproduced with one of the tested and supported ODBC drivers then it is likely to be considered a problem with the specific ODBC driver that is being used. Best regards, Conrad -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com] Sent: 2 July 2003 15:05 To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration But be warned! Cognos support will give you grief if you say you are running the software remotely via Terminal Services, pcAnywhere, etc. as it is a 'non-supported' environment. This has happened to me repeatedly. :( Blue -----Original Message----- From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 1:50 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Of course another option you might consider if you want to run the application on a Windows server, rather than on each user's desktop, is to look into using Windows Terminal Services. The app will still be running in a DOS box, its just that all of your users will be running different DOS boxes on the same machine...so you only have one machine to worry about deploying the application to. Obviously you still need the same number of PH licensed users...just as you would if you deployed to a UNIX box. Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] Sent: 2 July 2003 14:35 To: 'Tim Cummings'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Normally you would run it in a "DOS" window (i.e. the Command Console window). You can use a Telnet client if it emulates the DOS window, but there aren't many that do. However, since the cost is the same (we license by user count) you're better off running on the PC rather than as a client. You can still access remote databases and use remote screens (i.e. use PROCLOC to point to a network drive). I wrote an article in SupportLink a few months ago about this. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: Tim Cummings [mailto:tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 2:15 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Does the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a regular window? -----Original Message----- From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:02 AM To: 'Edis, Robert'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration The "green" screen capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on Windows NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June 23. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [ mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com ] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 10:04 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration G'day Luan I have used PH 8.24 on W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS ODBC AND RMS and DB2 databases via Connx ODBC. Points: 1. no 'green' screen available until the new version comes out (soon?). The Quick engine is for design purposes only and meant to be run under PH Web. The response time is pretty good though, especially as we had users connecting to the PH Web forms over 56k modems from across the country. 2. QTP works fast and well connecting to all the above data sources. 3. Quiz performance against SQL Server sucks. However you can improve performance by incorporating embedded SQL and database stored procedures. For reporting I'd recommend converting to Impromptu except for the rare circumstances where only Quiz will do. The version due out soon has 'green' screen capability. I don't know if Reflection supports W2K as a server though. Good luck, Blue -----Original Message----- From: lha@bigpond.net.au [ mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au ] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 8:51 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it's a single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One thought I have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?). My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to printers. What databases are you using? The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web? Any other observations or thoughts welcome! Thanks, Luan Ha Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340D1.26241FB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

While it is true=20 that Cognos does not officially support the use of its products under = Windows=20 Terminal Services, Microsoft claim that this environment is identical = to running=20 on a regular Windows platform and transparent to the application = itself. Hence,=20 any issue that manifests itself with any product under WTS, not just = Cognos=20 ones, should be easily reproducible under Windows 2000 or Windows XP. = In that=20 case it should be easy to provide Customer Support with a test case = that=20 reproduces the problem in a supported environment (which is probably = how you'd=20 be developing the application in any case).

The = same goes for=20 other WTS-like products (Citrix, etc.). Since they claim 100% = compatibility with=20 Windows any problems seen with a PH app should be reproducible under = Windows=20 2000/XP. If they are not, then the problem probably lies with the = terminal=20 server product being used.

This situation is=20 similar to that seen with ODBC drivers. Since Cognos cannot test and = support=20 every ODBC driver out there, if an issue can be reproduced with one of = the=20 tested/supported drivers then it will likely be acknowledged as an = issue with=20 the Cognos product. If it can't be reproduced with one of the tested = and=20 supported ODBC drivers then it is likely to be considered a problem = with the=20 specific ODBC driver that is being used.

Best=20 regards,
Conrad

-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert=20 [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: 2 July 2003 = 15:05
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000=20 Migration

But be=20 warned! Cognos support will give you grief if you say you are = running the=20 software remotely via Terminal Services, pcAnywhere, etc. as it is = a=20 'non-supported' environment.

This=20 has happened to me repeatedly. :(

Blue

-----Original Message-----
From: Whittall, Conrad=20 [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July = 02, 2003=20 1:50 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE:=20 Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

Of course=20 another option you might consider if you want to run the application = on a=20 Windows server, rather than on each user's desktop, is to look into = using=20 Windows Terminal Services. The app will still be running in a DOS = box, its=20 just that all of your users will be running different DOS boxes on = the same=20 machine...so you only have one machine to worry about deploying the=20 application to. Obviously you still need the same number of PH = licensed=20 users...just as you would if you deployed to a UNIX = box.

Best=20 regards,
Conrad

Conrad=20 Whittall
Solutions=20 Architect, Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, = Ottawa,=20 Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Deskin, Bob=20 [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: 2 July 2003 = 14:35
To:=20 'Tim Cummings'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: = Powerhouse=20 HP3000 Migration

Normally you would run it in a "DOS" window (i.e. the = Command Console=20 window). You can use a Telnet client if it emulates the DOS window, = but there=20 aren't many that do. However, since the cost is the same (we license = by user=20 count) you're better off running on the PC rather than as a client. = You can=20 still access remote databases and use remote screens (i.e. use = PROCLOC to=20 point to a network drive).

I=20 wrote an article in SupportLink a few months ago about=20 this.

Bob=20 = Deskin           =   =20
Product Manager, Application = Development=20 Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com=20 (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 = CANADA

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Cummings=20 [mailto:tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, July=20 02, 2003 2:15 PM
To: = powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject:=20 RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

Does=20 the "green screen" run in a dos window or via telnet or in a = regular=20 window?

=
-----Original=20 Message-----
From: Deskin,=20 Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, = 2003 11:02=20 AM
To: 'Edis, = Robert';=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse = HP3000=20 Migration

The "green" = screen=20 capability, in other words QUICK, is now available for order on = Windows=20 NT/2000/XP. It's version 8.41 and was officially released June=20 23.

Bob=20 = Deskin           =   =20
Product Manager, = Application=20 Development Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) = 738-1338=20 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. = Box 9707=20 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA

-----Original=20 Message-----=20
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: = Wednesday, July 02,=20 2003 10:04 AM=20
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse = HP3000=20 Migration=20

G'day=20 Luan =

I have used = PH 8.24 on=20 W2K against a SQL Server 2000 database via MS = ODBC
AND RMS and = DB2 databases=20 via Connx ODBC.=20

Points:
1. no = 'green' screen=20 available until the new version comes out (soon?). =20 The=20
Quick engine is for design = purposes=20 only and meant to be run under PH Web.
The response time is pretty = good=20 though, especially as we had users
connecting to the PH Web = forms over=20 56k modems from across the country.
2. QTP works fast and well = connecting=20 to all the above data sources.
3. Quiz performance against = SQL Server=20 sucks. However you can improve
performance by = incorporating embedded=20 SQL and database stored procedures.
For reporting I'd recommend = converting=20 to Impromptu except for the rare
circumstances where only = Quiz will=20 do.=20

The version = due out soon=20 has 'green' screen capability. I don't know = if
Reflection = supports =20 W2K as a server though.

Good=20 luck,=20

Blue

-----Original=20 Message-----=20
From: lha@bigpond.net.au = [mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au]=
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, = 2003 8:51=20 AM
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu=20
Subject:=20 Powerhouse HP3000 Migration=20

One of my clients has a = single=20 PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running
MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is = part of a=20 large multi-national who want to
move away from the HP3000 = platform.=20 However, we find that PH does the
job well and the client is = very=20 reluctant to spend a whole heap of
dollars re-writing the app = which would=20 end up doing what it does now
but at higher cost and = possibly lower=20 reliability. Although it's a
single app, it's a core = system=20 handling high revenue. One thought I
have is to move to PH on a = Windows=20 NT/W2K server platform, possibly
using the Eloquence = database (PH=20 version due late this year?).=20

My questions: what is your = experience=20 with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm
particularly interested in=20 performance, reliability, interface to
printers. What databases = are you=20 using?
The client = is happy to=20 continue with text-based screens - they
currently use WQR = Reflection which=20 gives the users plenty of options
for customising the display = etc. Can=20 the PH/Win NT combination also be
customised in this way = without going=20 to Axiant or PH Web?=20
Any=20 other observations or thoughts welcome!

Thanks,

Luan Ha
Principal Consultant, Padys = Pty=20 Ltd.

Email address :=20 lha@bigpond.net.au =

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C340D1.26241FB0-- From catherine.litten@valleypres.org Wed Jul 2 21:19:52 2003 From: catherine.litten@valleypres.org (Catherine Litten) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 13:19:52 -0700 Subject: Temporary Opportunity Message-ID: On this note we too have a temporary opening in two weeks, also due to a medical leave. We are looking at 6 weeks for an onsite temporary Powerhouse Programmer with Suprtool skills and understanding of Precision 2000 or HIS software. The time frame is approximately the middle of July until the end of August. Currently we run the following software on a HP3000/969ks120: ADAGER ESPUL by RAC BACKUP/iX by ORBIT GLANCE/iX MPEX POWERHOUSE DEVELOPMENT - Quiz, Quick, QTP version 8.39c REVEAL QEDIT SUPRTOOL Reflections 9.0 - VBA we have a bit of macros that run daily in Reflections. Our primary software package is McKesson's Precision 2000, however, we have quite a bit of home grown reporting, databases and data extraction and formatting to upload to other systems within the hospital. We run Novell, NT, Unix and Linux boxes along with the 3000. If you are interested you would need to be on site 8 1/2 hours a day (1/2 lunch) and start time is flexible anywhere from 6 am - 9 am. Feel free to contact me through E-Mail, Fax or Telephone, see below. Valley Presbyterian Hospital 15107 Vanowen Street, Van Nuys, California Email: catherine.litten@valleypres.org Fax: 818-902-5202 Voice Mail: 818-782-6600 x 2140 Catherine Litten, Senior Programmer Analyst www.valleypres.org ********************************* The thoughts, comments, and opinions expressed herein are mine. They do not reflect those of my employer, nor anyone else. ***This E-mail is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. ?? 2510-2521 and is legally privileged. This information is confidential information and is intended only for the use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately by return electronic transmission and then immediately delete this transmission.*** . From tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com Wed Jul 2 21:25:54 2003 From: tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com (Tim Cummings) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:25:54 -0400 Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340D8.231729A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" While it is true that a good number of software packages work under Terminal Services, there some that I have found that only work with some tinkering. Some software programs do things via hard coded directories and/or registry entries. I got all of the software my client wanted to work, but it took some detective work to make it happen. Usually it was sloppy coding practices by the software vendor that caused most of the problems. If you stick to the big guys software, you should have no problem. I would assume that Cognos would not have adopted coding practices that would prevent PH from working. Tim -----Original Message----- From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:36 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration While it is true that Cognos does not officially support the use of its products under Windows Terminal Services, Microsoft claim that this environment is identical to running on a regular Windows platform and transparent to the application itself. Hence, any issue that manifests itself with any product under WTS, not just Cognos ones, should be easily reproducible under Windows 2000 or Windows XP. In that case it should be easy to provide Customer Support with a test case that reproduces the problem in a supported environment (which is probably how you'd be developing the application in any case). The same goes for other WTS-like products (Citrix, etc.). Since they claim 100% compatibility with Windows any problems seen with a PH app should be reproducible under Windows 2000/XP. If they are not, then the problem probably lies with the terminal server product being used. This situation is similar to that seen with ODBC drivers. Since Cognos cannot test and support every ODBC driver out there, if an issue can be reproduced with one of the tested/supported drivers then it will likely be acknowledged as an issue with the Cognos product. If it can't be reproduced with one of the tested and supported ODBC drivers then it is likely to be considered a problem with the specific ODBC driver that is being used. Best regards, Conrad This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340D8.231729A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration

While it is true that a good number of software packages work = under Terminal Services, there some that I have found that only work with some = tinkering. Some software programs do = things via hard coded directories and/or registry entries. I got all of the software my client wanted to work, = but it took some detective work to make it happen. Usually it was sloppy coding practices by the = software vendor that caused most of the problems. If you stick to the big guys software, you should have no = problem. I would assume that Cognos = would not have adopted coding practices that would prevent PH from working.

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July = 02, 2003 3:36 PM
To: = powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Powerhouse = HP3000 Migration

While it is true that Cognos does not officially support the use of its = products under Windows Terminal Services, Microsoft claim that this environment = is identical to running on a regular Windows platform and transparent to = the application itself. Hence, any issue that manifests itself with any = product under WTS, not just Cognos ones, should be easily reproducible under = Windows 2000 or Windows XP. In that case it should be easy to provide Customer = Support with a test case that reproduces the problem in a supported environment = (which is probably how you'd be developing the application in any = case).=

The same goes for other WTS-like products (Citrix, etc.). Since they claim = 100% compatibility with Windows any problems seen with a PH app should be reproducible under Windows 2000/XP. If they are not, then the problem = probably lies with the terminal server product being used.=

This situation is similar to that seen with ODBC drivers. Since Cognos = cannot test and support every ODBC driver out there, if an issue can be reproduced = with one of the tested/supported drivers then it will likely be acknowledged as = an issue with the Cognos product. If it can't be reproduced with one of the = tested and supported ODBC drivers then it is likely to be considered a problem = with the specific ODBC driver that is being used.=

Best regards,
Conrad<= /b>

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C340D8.231729A0-- From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Wed Jul 2 22:53:30 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:53:30 -0500 Subject: PH gig in London, U.K. Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01952D24@BLISTEXEXC> Job Title: Powerhouse/Cobol Programmer Salary: �35k Location: London Description: My client are a medium-large size well established consultancy organisation looking for an experienced Powerhouse / Cobol Programmer using HP Machines. They offer an excellent career opportunity with cross training into other technologies also available. As well as a base of upto �35k there is a very good benefits package. If you mach the above and want further info please email your CV or questions to Rob ASAP . For more information: Blue From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Wed Jul 2 22:55:16 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:55:16 -0500 Subject: Another London? gig. Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01952D26@BLISTEXEXC> Job Title: Microfocus Cobol, unix, AIX, Oracle, Powerhouse Salary: 30k to 34k Annual Location: Central/West End Description: Client in London Victoria needs Analyst Programmers. You must have Microfocus Cobol, together with Unix any flavour, but AIX prefered. You will also have experieince in Oracle 8i/9. Using SQL databses, will aslo be a big plus. Developing in Powerhouse is also sought, together with usinG C++/C. Please note this is a Microfocus Cobol Position. Fantastic company, excellent central London location, big company, big benefits. For more information: Blue From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Wed Jul 2 22:57:23 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 16:57:23 -0500 Subject: PH consultant gig in Berkshire, U.K. Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01952D34@BLISTEXEXC> Job Title: Powerhouse Developer Salary: to �40,000 Location: Berkshire Description: Powerhouse Developer - Working for this established IT Consultancy you will be providing solutions for some of the World's largest corporations. It is essential that you have a strong development background using Powerhouse 4GL and Cobol on an HP3000. You must be comfortable in client facing situations. Powerhouse, Cobol, HP3000 For more information: Blue P.S. where's Berkshire? From Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM Wed Jul 2 23:39:35 2003 From: Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM (Whittall, Conrad) Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:39:35 -0400 Subject: PH consultant gig in Berkshire, U.K. Message-ID: <9BB2C83BBB6AD7119554000802FF51B8438F58@sottexch3.cognos.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340EA.D04E1950 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Berkshire is the county west of London typically bounded by the M4 = motorway to the north and the M3 to the south, with the M25 London orbital = motorway to the east. The Cognos UK HQ is in Bracknell, Berkshire. Reading is also in = Berkshire. -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com] Sent: 2 July 2003 17:57 To: Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: PH consultant gig in Berkshire, U.K. Job Title: Powerhouse Developer=20 Salary: to =A340,000=20 Location: Berkshire=20 Description: Powerhouse Developer - Working for this established IT Consultancy you will be providing solutions for some of the World's = largest corporations. It is essential that you have a strong development = background using Powerhouse 4GL and Cobol on an HP3000. You must be comfortable in client facing situations. Powerhouse, Cobol, HP3000 For more = information: Blue P.S. where's Berkshire? =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D = =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to = powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. = If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, = you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the = sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. =20 Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The = Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's = an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more = details. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C340EA.D04E1950 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: PH consultant gig in Berkshire, U.K.
Berkshire is the county west of London typically = bounded by the M4 motorway to the north and the M3 to the south, with = the M25 London orbital motorway to the east.

The Cognos UK HQ is in Bracknell, Berkshire. Reading = is also in Berkshire.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C340EA.D04E1950-- From Glenn@baxterit.com.au Thu Jul 3 00:42:21 2003 From: Glenn@baxterit.com.au (Glenn Baxter) Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 09:42:21 +1000 Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration Message-ID: <99CD2C1AB919D4119B15009027E0142A0996D7@BITSERVER> Hi Luan, We are porting a Hp3000 environment to Windows2k for a Melbourne based client. We have chosen to use Axiant to enhance to users experience by way of user interface. We are using SqlServer2000 and will be deploying in Thin Client "mode", thus executing all components {Quick, Qtp, Quiz} on the server. We have a range of workstations {by way of quality} and prefer the reliability and performance offered by the server. {A dual Pentium 4, 2.2 with 2 gigabytes of memory, running a Level 5 Raid Disc system for some 20-30 users} We have found performance to be fantastic, albeit, we are still in Beta testing with respect to the applications. Many of the migration issues are common {databases, datatypes, indexes {vs Automatic Masters under Image}, command files, environment variables for user and application etc} regardless of the eventual user interface. I have only brief experience with the DOS windows under Nt. We had decided the enhanced interface offered by Axiant to be "worth" the effort. The data migration effort was only modest using the Axiant migration tools combined with some reasonable SqlServer skills and application knowledge. Axiant does provide a comprehensive multi-user IDE for developers also. We are of course able to generate character based forms for use with 8.41 Powerhouse from within Axiant in addition to the Windows form overlay we currently use. Printers and Printing Quiz can still only address {naturally} character based printing, that is, any enhancements you may now have {escape character based font switching, portrait to landscape etc} remain the same, but, you need to avoid the Windows Print subsystem, as it removes any "non-ascii" characters from the data-stream, and always reverts to the target printers base font and orientation. We route all printed output to disc, then "Print" it to printers which are appropriate for the reports. We have many 132 * 64 or 220 * 64 line reports. Routing to disc is great as each user then has a "spooler" folder of prior reports, viewable in notepad etc. Command Files and "Parms" An interesting area, particularly in Thin Client mode, where we are have developed a form {VB Exe} which dynamically populates a set of "parm prompt" fields, populates multi-select list boxes using Sql to emulate Choose Statements or provide "unbound" text boxes for other user parm/prompt values etc. This has involved "storing" the contents of all Hp Stream or Command files within Sql, but has the advantage of making the construction and maintenance of command files a controlled user interface driven task. Where printed output is required we provide a Windows style printer selection and copy quantity selection. This "stuff" is written to the server based command file {by application by user by date & time} which is then submitted for execution by the calling screen. Quite a lot of work, but required for thin client. And, the performance is great. Our basis of staying with Powerhouse and moving to Nt was similar to yours, where much of the application is highly customised and very reliable {with respect to the Powerhouse "engine"}. Our objective has beed to retain those aspects and improve performance where possible. The clients "skill base" in Powerhouse is still protected, and the new environment also provides leverage for extended use of the information. We plan greater use of BI tools through SqlServer etc over time. I have noted the quiz performance comments from Blue. We haven't experienced this yet. But as stated enhancing the quiz using embedded sql is an option. A windows report writer becomes an option {Impromptu etc}. We have some 600 reports, so weren't all that keen on redevelopment!! {straight away} Sincerely, Glenn Baxter Baxter IT Solutions ============================== 15 Flora Grove Ivanhoe Victoria Australia 3079 ============================== telephone: 61-3-9499-8687 mobile: 0412-826-503 fax: 61-3-9499-8344 email: glenn@baxterit.com.au This e-mail message (and attachments) may contain information that is confidential to Baxter IT Solutions. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, distribute or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, please notify the sender by return e-mail immediately and erase all copies of the message and attachments. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of Baxter IT Solutions are neither given nor endorsed by it. -----Original Message----- From: lha@bigpond.net.au [mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au] Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2003 11:51 pm To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Powerhouse HP3000 Migration One of my clients has a single PowerHouse app on an old HP3000 running MPE/iX v 7.0. The client is part of a large multi-national who want to move away from the HP3000 platform. However, we find that PH does the job well and the client is very reluctant to spend a whole heap of dollars re-writing the app which would end up doing what it does now but at higher cost and possibly lower reliability. Although it's a single app, it's a core system handling high revenue. One thought I have is to move to PH on a Windows NT/W2K server platform, possibly using the Eloquence database (PH version due late this year?). My questions: what is your experience with running PH on Win NT/2K? I'm particularly interested in performance, reliability, interface to printers. What databases are you using? The client is happy to continue with text-based screens - they currently use WQR Reflection which gives the users plenty of options for customising the display etc. Can the PH/Win NT combination also be customised in this way without going to Axiant or PH Web? Any other observations or thoughts welcome! Thanks, Luan Ha Principal Consultant, Padys Pty Ltd. Email address : lha@bigpond.net.au = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From marc.vandemeerssche@nationalesuisse.be Fri Jul 4 08:56:53 2003 From: marc.vandemeerssche@nationalesuisse.be (VAN DE MEERSSCHE Marc) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 09:56:53 +0200 Subject: Powerhouse Web Message-ID: Hi, Is there a way to use Powerhouse Web together with PHP ? Thanks ! From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Fri Jul 4 13:19:02 2003 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2003 08:19:02 -0400 Subject: Powerhouse Web Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34226.74569E50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" My initial reaction is no, not directly. Same answer for ASPs. At least not with our current architecture. Now my understanding of PHP and ASP is limited to book learning. I have never used them. But I understand that with PHP you embed PHP commands in the HTML and name it with a .PHP extension so that the Web server knows to run the PHP engine. The way PH Web works is that you have a page that passes requests to the Web Server which launches the PHCGI, which in turn passes the request to the PH Web Dispatcher and in turn to the PH Web Server (think QUICK sitting waiting for a screen to run - a rough approximation). The PH Web Server processes the request and formats the results page based on an HTML template. The results are sent back to the waiting PHCGI and then to the Web Server and browser as a text stream. Since the output of the PH Web Server is a text stream, there is no way for the Web server to know that PHP (or ASP) should be run. Of course different pages within an application can be PHP, ASP, of PH Web, but you can't have all in one. My question is - what do you want to do with PHP that you can't do with PH Web? Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: VAN DE MEERSSCHE Marc [mailto:marc.vandemeerssche@nationalesuisse.be] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 3:57 AM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Powerhouse Web Hi, Is there a way to use Powerhouse Web together with PHP ? Thanks ! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34226.74569E50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Powerhouse Web
My initial reaction is no, not directly. Same answer = for ASPs. At least not with our current architecture. Now my = understanding of PHP and ASP is limited to book learning. I have never = used them. But I understand that with PHP you embed PHP commands in the = HTML and name it with a .PHP extension so that the Web server knows to = run the PHP engine.

The way PH Web works is that you have a page that = passes requests to the Web Server which launches the PHCGI, which in = turn passes the request to the PH Web Dispatcher and in turn to the PH = Web Server (think QUICK sitting waiting for a screen to run - a rough = approximation). The PH Web Server processes the request and formats the = results page based on an HTML template. The results are sent back to = the waiting PHCGI and then to the Web Server and browser as a text = stream.

Since the output of the PH Web Server is a text = stream, there is no way for the Web server to know that PHP (or ASP) = should be run.

Of course different pages within an application can = be PHP, ASP, of PH Web, but you can't have all in one.

My question is - what do you want to do with PHP that = you can't do with PH Web?

Bob = Deskin           =
Product Manager, Application Development Tools, = Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: = (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON = K1G 4K9 CANADA

-----Original Message-----
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Hi,
Is there a way to use Powerhouse Web together with = PHP ?
Thanks !

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C34226.74569E50-- From ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Fri Jul 4 19:44:25 2003 From: ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca (James B. Byrne ) Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2003 14:44:25 -0400 Subject: Security in QSHOW Message-ID: <3F0592C9.29199.1010202D@localhost> On an HP3000-918LX running MPEiX 7.0 and PH839C what does the following mean? :LISTSEC PD839C0C.OBJ839 FRI, JUL 4, 2003, 1:23 PM ***************************************** FILE: PD839C0C.OBJ839.HARTLYNE ACCOUNT ------ READ : AC WRITE : AC APPEND : AC LOCK : ANY EXECUTE : ANY GROUP -------- READ : ANY WRITE : AL, GU APPEND : AL, GU LOCK : ANY EXECUTE : ANY SAVE : AL, GU FILE --------- READ : ANY FCODE: 655 WRITE : ANY **SECURITY IS OFF APPEND : ANY NO ACDS LOCK : ANY EXECUTE : ANY FOR MANAGER.HARTLYNE: READ, WRITE, EXECUTE, APPEND, LOCK :FILE PHD=PD839C0C.OBJ839 ******************** FILE: PD839C0C.OBJ839.HARTLYNE > FILE CODE : 655 FOPTIONS: BINARY,FIXED,NOCCTL,STD BLK FACTOR: 1 CREATOR : MANAGER.HARTLYNE REC SIZE: 4096(BYTES) LOCKWORD: BLK SIZE: 4096(BYTES) SECURITY--READ : ANY EXT SIZE: 0(SECT) WRITE : ANY NUM REC: 182 APPEND : ANY NUM SEC: 4096 LOCK : ANY NUM EXT: 1 EXECUTE : ANY MAX REC: 16384 **SECURITY IS OFF FLAGS : NO ACCESSORS NUM LABELS: 0 CREATED : FRI, JUL 4, 2003, 9:19 AM MAX LABELS: 0 MODIFIED: FRI, JUL 4, 2003, 9:19 AM DISC DEV #: 2 ACCESSED: FRI, JUL 4, 2003, 1:37 PM SEC OFFSET: 0 LABEL ADDR: $00000061.$007AE520 VOLCLASS : HAL_DATA:DISC :QSHOW Q S H O W (PowerHouse 8.39.C) Copyright 2001 COGNOS INCORPORATED HARTE & LYNE LIMITED > SHOW SECURITY *E* You have insufficient capability to see application security. > The use id in user (MANAGER.HARTLYNE) is the creator of the compiled dictionary and has AM privileges. Help! Jim --- e-mail is NOT a secure channel James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From j.vanderlinde@thegreenery.com Mon Jul 7 14:13:36 2003 From: j.vanderlinde@thegreenery.com (JEROENL Jeroen van der Linde) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:13:36 +0200 Subject: Powerhouse web features & version Message-ID: <002390b7@gri.nl> Dear all, Looking at an article in Supportlink (Online) Volume 12, No. 1, I noticed Bob Deskin using some features of Powerhouse web (HTMLBUTTONS, DYNAMICLIST and HTMLDISPLAYTEXT), which he said will be available '...in the new version of Powerhouse Web...'. Since this Supportlink was released somewhere in the beginning of 2002, I was wondering if we were still using the most up-to-date version of Powerhouse (Web). If not, wat might be the last version, and if we are using the most recent version, when will a new version including these features be available? We are currently using Powerhouse Web 2.21d (and Powerhouse 8.20d2) on OpenVMS V7.1-2. Thnx! Jeroen van der Linde From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Mon Jul 7 14:38:20 2003 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 09:38:20 -0400 Subject: Powerhouse web features & version Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3448D.07C563C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The features you mention are available in the 2.4x version. UNIX and NT/2000/XP are available now. OpenVMS and MPE/iX should be available late July or early August. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc. bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA -----Original Message----- From: JEROENL Jeroen van der Linde [mailto:j.vanderlinde@thegreenery.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:14 AM To: POWERH-L@lists.swau.edu Subject: Powerhouse web features & version Dear all, Looking at an article in Supportlink (Online) Volume 12, No. 1, I noticed Bob Deskin using some features of Powerhouse web (HTMLBUTTONS, DYNAMICLIST and HTMLDISPLAYTEXT), which he said will be available '...in the new version of Powerhouse Web...'. Since this Supportlink was released somewhere in the beginning of 2002, I was wondering if we were still using the most up-to-date version of Powerhouse (Web). If not, wat might be the last version, and if we are using the most recent version, when will a new version including these features be available? We are currently using Powerhouse Web 2.21d (and Powerhouse 8.20d2) on OpenVMS V7.1-2. Thnx! Jeroen van der Linde = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3448D.07C563C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Powerhouse web features & version
The features you mention are available in the 2.4x = version. UNIX and NT/2000/XP are available now. OpenVMS and MPE/iX = should be available late July or early August.

Bob = Deskin           =
Product Manager, Application Development Tools, = Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: = (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON = K1G 4K9 CANADA

-----Original Message-----
From: JEROENL Jeroen van der Linde
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To: POWERH-L@lists.swau.edu
Subject: Powerhouse web features & = version

Dear all,

Looking at an article in Supportlink (Online) Volume = 12, No. 1, I noticed Bob Deskin using some features of Powerhouse web = (HTMLBUTTONS, DYNAMICLIST and HTMLDISPLAYTEXT), which he said will be = available '...in the new version of Powerhouse Web...'. Since this = Supportlink was released somewhere in the beginning of 2002, I was = wondering if we were still using the most up-to-date version of = Powerhouse (Web). If not, wat might be the last version, and if we are = using the most recent version, when will a new version including these = features be available?

We are currently using Powerhouse Web 2.21d (and = Powerhouse 8.20d2) on OpenVMS V7.1-2.

Thnx!

Jeroen van der Linde

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3448D.07C563C0-- From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Mon Jul 7 20:12:53 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:12:53 -0500 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C0196E292@BLISTEXEXC> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C344BB.C3BE0810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Listers I am forwarding this email in the hope that someone of you may find it useful. Please forgive me if it comes across as noise. I am NOT responsible for the content and do not know anything about the original sender or the positions other than what is written here. Blue -----Original Message----- From: India Jobs [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM To: robert.edis@blistex.com Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Hi Robert, I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. Can you post for me please. *** 50 Positions Open **** JOB : ----- Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, Chennai. HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 company requires Software Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 mini-computer. All positions require Indian nationals. As a Software Engineer, you will involved in development and maintenance of HP3000 applications, porting, testing and documenting the product. You will also be responsible to contribute for application migration to open systems. Client expects you to have at least 2 years experience with MPE/iX with indepth knowledge of one or more of TurboImage / ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, Powerhouse / Speedware / and latest Migration Tools is desireable. Exposure to HP9000/HP-UX, J2EE, UML, .NET Framework would be an added advantage however familiarity with HP3000 is the only core requirement. You would be analytical and aware of SEI CMM Level 5 quality processes. You will have an opportunity to work on various target platforms. Client : -------- Our client is a leading SEI CMM Level 5 company with offices worldwide providing software solutions including application development, maintenance, support, as well as migrations. Job may require immediate over travel for short-term / long term and candidates showing flexibility only need apply. Work is during normal day shift but some limited after hours and weekend oncall support on rotating basis also required. Salaries are very competitive and excellent growth opportunities exists within the organization. Only matching candidates should send his or her resume ASAP with salary history to hp3kjobs@yahoo.com Rina ------_=_NextPart_001_01C344BB.C3BE0810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear Listers

I am forwarding this email in the hope that someone of you may find it useful. Please forgive me if it comes across as noise. I am NOT responsible for the content and do not know anything about the original sender or the positions other than what is written here.

Blue

-----Original Message-----
From: India Jobs [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM
To: robert.edis@blistex.com
Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India

Hi Robert,

I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. Can you post for me please.

*** 50 Positions Open ****

JOB :
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Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, Chennai.

HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 company requires Software Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 mini-computer. All positions require Indian nationals.

As a Software Engineer, you will involved in development and maintenance of HP3000 applications, porting, testing and documenting the product. You will also be responsible to contribute for application migration to open systems.

Client expects you to have at least 2 years experience with MPE/iX with indepth knowledge of one or more of TurboImage / ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, Powerhouse / Speedware / and latest Migration Tools is desireable. Exposure to HP9000/HP-UX, J2EE, UML, .NET Framework would be an added advantage however familiarity with HP3000 is the only core requirement. You would be analytical and aware of SEI CMM Level 5 quality processes. You will have an opportunity to work on various target platforms.

Client :
--------

Our client is a leading SEI CMM Level 5 company with offices worldwide providing software solutions including application development, maintenance, support, as well as migrations.

Job may require immediate over travel for short-term / long term and candidates showing flexibility only need apply. Work is during normal day shift but some limited after hours and weekend oncall support on rotating basis also required.

Salaries are very competitive and excellent growth opportunities exists within the organization.

Only matching candidates should send his or her resume ASAP with salary history to hp3kjobs@yahoo.com

Rina

------_=_NextPart_001_01C344BB.C3BE0810-- From hawksj@yahoo.com Mon Jul 7 21:38:39 2003 From: hawksj@yahoo.com (Jon (Jarod) Hawks) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India In-Reply-To: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C0196E292@BLISTEXEXC> Message-ID: <20030707203839.87722.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> Well this is a switch. All the Americans that need a job can't get on because the positions are manned by H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this job. --- "Edis, Robert" wrote: > Dear Listers > > I am forwarding this email in the hope that someone > of you may find it > useful. Please forgive me if it comes across as > noise. I am NOT > responsible for the content and do not know anything > about the original > sender or the positions other than what is written > here. > > Blue > > > -----Original Message----- > From: India Jobs [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM > To: robert.edis@blistex.com > Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > Hi Robert, > > I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. Can you > post for me please. > > *** 50 Positions Open **** > JOB : > ----- > Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, Chennai. > HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 company > requires Software > Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 mini-computer. > All positions require > Indian nationals. > As a Software Engineer, you will involved in > development and maintenance of > HP3000 applications, porting, testing and > documenting the product. You will > also be responsible to contribute for application > migration to open systems. > Client expects you to have at least 2 years > experience with MPE/iX with > indepth knowledge of one or more of TurboImage / > ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and > HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, Powerhouse / > Speedware / and latest > Migration Tools is desireable. Exposure to > HP9000/HP-UX, J2EE, UML, .NET > Framework would be an added advantage however > familiarity with HP3000 is the > only core requirement. You would be analytical and > aware of SEI CMM Level 5 > quality processes. You will have an opportunity to > work on various target > platforms. > > Client : > -------- > Our client is a leading SEI CMM Level 5 company with > offices worldwide > providing software solutions including application > development, maintenance, > support, as well as migrations. > Job may require immediate over travel for short-term > / long term and > candidates showing flexibility only need apply. Work > is during normal day > shift but some limited after hours and weekend > oncall support on rotating > basis also required. > Salaries are very competitive and excellent growth > opportunities exists > within the organization. > Only matching candidates should send his or her > resume ASAP with salary > history to hp3kjobs@yahoo.com > > > > Rina > > ===== From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Mon Jul 7 21:51:23 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 15:51:23 -0500 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C0196E3B2@BLISTEXEXC> Not correct. A dual national could apply, i.e. a person with both Indian AND USA citizenship. This is an international list and it is interesting that most of the Cognos ADT jobs I've seen lately have been outside of the USA. A switch from the norm. Still I must agree with Jon, unless these are defence gigs in India it is unjust to prohibit non-Indians from applying. Blue -----Original Message----- From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 3:39 PM To: Edis, Robert; Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Well this is a switch. All the Americans that need a job can't get on because the positions are manned by H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this job. --- "Edis, Robert" wrote: > Dear Listers > > I am forwarding this email in the hope that someone > of you may find it > useful. Please forgive me if it comes across as > noise. I am NOT > responsible for the content and do not know anything > about the original > sender or the positions other than what is written > here. > > Blue > > > -----Original Message----- > From: India Jobs [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] > Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM > To: robert.edis@blistex.com > Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > Hi Robert, > > I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. Can you > post for me please. > > *** 50 Positions Open **** > JOB : > ----- > Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, Chennai. > HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 company > requires Software > Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 mini-computer. > All positions require > Indian nationals. > As a Software Engineer, you will involved in > development and maintenance of > HP3000 applications, porting, testing and > documenting the product. You will > also be responsible to contribute for application > migration to open systems. > Client expects you to have at least 2 years > experience with MPE/iX with > indepth knowledge of one or more of TurboImage / > ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and > HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, Powerhouse / > Speedware / and latest > Migration Tools is desireable. Exposure to > HP9000/HP-UX, J2EE, UML, .NET > Framework would be an added advantage however > familiarity with HP3000 is the > only core requirement. You would be analytical and > aware of SEI CMM Level 5 > quality processes. You will have an opportunity to > work on various target > platforms. > > Client : > -------- > Our client is a leading SEI CMM Level 5 company with > offices worldwide > providing software solutions including application > development, maintenance, > support, as well as migrations. > Job may require immediate over travel for short-term > / long term and > candidates showing flexibility only need apply. Work > is during normal day > shift but some limited after hours and weekend > oncall support on rotating > basis also required. > Salaries are very competitive and excellent growth > opportunities exists > within the organization. > Only matching candidates should send his or her > resume ASAP with salary > history to hp3kjobs@yahoo.com > > > > Rina > > ===== From Jerry Hirschel Mon Jul 7 22:02:20 2003 From: Jerry Hirschel (Jerry Hirschel) Date: 07 Jul 2003 16:02:20 -0500 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <992954890jerryh@psc-usa.com> Welcome to a global economy. -- Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC President Professional Search Centre, Ltd. 847-719-1200 x221 847-445-0003 cell 847-719-1275 fax jerryh@psc-usa.com http://www.psc-usa.com Life is change, growth is optional. On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon $Jarod$ Hawks wrote: >Well this is a switch. All the Americans that need a >job can't get on because the positions are manned by >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this job. > >--- "Edis, Robert" wrote: >> Dear Listers >> >> I am forwarding this email in the hope that someone >> of you may find it >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes across as >> noise. I am NOT >> responsible for the content and do not know anything >> about the original >> sender or the positions other than what is written >> here. >> >> Blue >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: India Jobs [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM >> To: robert.edis@blistex.com >> Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India >> >> >> Hi Robert, >> >> I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. Can you >> post for me please. >> >> *** 50 Positions Open **** >> JOB : >> ----- >> Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, Chennai. >> HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 company >> requires Software >> Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 mini-computer. >> All positions require >> Indian nationals. >> As a Software Engineer, you will involved in >> development and maintenance of >> HP3000 applications, porting, testing and >> documenting the product. You will >> also be responsible to contribute for application >> migration to open systems. >> Client expects you to have at least 2 years >> experience with MPE/iX with >> indepth knowledge of one or more of TurboImage / >> ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and >> HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, Powerhouse / >> Speedware / and latest >> Migration Tools is desireable. Exposure to >> HP9000/HP-UX, J2EE, UML, .NET >> Framework would be an added advantage however >> familiarity with HP3000 is the >> only core requirement. You would be analytical and >> aware of SEI CMM Level 5 >> quality processes. You will have an opportunity to >> work on various target >> platforms. >> >> Client : >> -------- >> Our client is a leading SEI CMM Level 5 company with >> offices worldwide >> providing software solutions including application >> development, maintenance, >> support, as well as migrations. >> Job may require immediate over travel for short-term >> / long term and >> candidates showing flexibility only need apply. Work >> is during normal day >> shift but some limited after hours and weekend >> oncall support on rotating >> basis also required. >> Salaries are very competitive and excellent growth >> opportunities exists >> within the organization. >> Only matching candidates should send his or her >> resume ASAP with salary >> history to hp3kjobs@yahoo.com >> >> >> >> Rina >> >> > > >===== > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a >subscriber. > From Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com Mon Jul 7 22:15:11 2003 From: Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com (Johnson, Tracy) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 17:15:11 -0400 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <970F565A5733E64686BC3A10FBBAE87C10FAE8@zeus.noam.msiusa.com> Vishnu protect us! They using Powerhouse in the Indian Defense industry?! Cc: hp3000-l Robert Edis said: > Not correct. A dual national could apply, i.e. a person with both Indian > AND USA citizenship. > This is an international list and it is interesting that most of the Cognos > ADT jobs I've seen lately have been outside of the USA. A switch from the > norm. > > Still I must agree with Jon, unless these are defence gigs in India it is > unjust to prohibit non-Indians from applying. > > Blue BT Tracy Johnson MSI Schaevitz Sensors From george.j.wen@us.abb.com Mon Jul 7 22:21:11 2003 From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com (george.j.wen@us.abb.com) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 16:21:11 -0500 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: --0__=0ABBE7CFDFE6ADF48f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBE7CFDFE6ADF4 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii There's the problem; we're playing global but are they? (Embedded Jerry Hirschel @cube.swau.edu image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM to file: pic25128.pcx) Please respond to Jerry Hirschel Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu To: "Edis, Robert" , "Powerh-L \$E-mail\$" , "Jon \$Jarod\$ Hawks" , cc: Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Security Level:? Internal Welcome to a global economy. -- Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC President Professional Search Centre, Ltd. 847-719-1200 x221 847-445-0003 cell 847-719-1275 fax jerryh@psc-usa.com http://www.psc-usa.com Life is change, growth is optional. On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon $Jarod$ Hawks wrote: >Well this is a switch. All the Americans that need a >job can't get on because the positions are manned by >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this job. > >--- "Edis, Robert" wrote: >> Dear Listers >> >> I am forwarding this email in the hope that someone >> of you may find it >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes across as >> noise. I am NOT >> responsible for the content and do not know anything >> about the original >> sender or the positions other than what is written >> here. >> >> Blue >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: India Jobs [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM >> To: robert.edis@blistex.com >> Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India >> >> >> Hi Robert, >> >> I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. Can you >> post for me please. >> >> *** 50 Positions Open **** >> JOB : >> ----- >> Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, Chennai. >> HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 company >> requires Software >> Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 mini-computer. >> All positions require >> Indian nationals. >> As a Software Engineer, you will involved in >> development and maintenance of >> HP3000 applications, porting, testing and >> documenting the product. You will >> also be responsible to contribute for application >> migration to open systems. >> Client expects you to have at least 2 years >> experience with MPE/iX with >> indepth knowledge of one or more of TurboImage / >> ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and >> HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, Powerhouse / >> Speedware / and latest >> Migration Tools is desireable. Exposure to >> HP9000/HP-UX, J2EE, UML, .NET >> Framework would be an added advantage however >> familiarity with HP3000 is the >> only core requirement. You would be analytical and >> aware of SEI CMM Level 5 >> quality processes. You will have an opportunity to >> work on various target >> platforms. >> >> Client : >> -------- >> Our client is a leading SEI CMM Level 5 company with >> offices worldwide >> providing software solutions including application >> development, maintenance, >> support, as well as migrations. >> Job may require immediate over travel for short-term >> / long term and >> candidates showing flexibility only need apply. Work >> is during normal day >> shift but some limited after hours and weekend >> oncall support on rotating >> basis also required. >> Salaries are very competitive and excellent growth >> opportunities exists >> within the organization. >> Only matching candidates should send his or her >> resume ASAP with salary >> history to hp3kjobs@yahoo.com >> >> >> >> Rina >> >> > > >===== > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a >subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. --0__=0ABBE7CFDFE6ADF48f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBE7CFDFE6ADF4 Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="pic25128.pcx" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pic25128.pcx" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 CgUBCAAAAABBADEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAABQgABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA= --0__=0ABBE7CFDFE6ADF48f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBE7CFDFE6ADF4-- From stuartr@ihot.com Mon Jul 7 22:43:33 2003 From: stuartr@ihot.com (Stuart J. Rosenboom) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 14:43:33 -0700 Subject: Looking for work Message-ID: <3F09E985.4010900@ihot.com> Hello, I am currently looking for permanent or contract work. I have over 15 years of experience working with Powerhouse on HP3000. I am also very familiar with COBOL and FORTRAN programming and I have some knowledge of Oracle 8i and UNIX (Solaris 8). I currently live in Northern California and prefer to work in the Western United States but, I am willing to travel up to 75% of the time or relocate if needed. If you have any work available or know of anyone who is hiring at this time please contact contact me directly. Best Regards, Stuart J. Rosenboom stuartr@ihot.com (408) 733-2302 (Home) or (408) 888-6454 (Mobile) From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Tue Jul 8 01:01:34 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:01:34 +0800 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: I would not go that far George. The US has a bad reputation for doing quite the opposite! > -----Original Message----- > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global but are they? > > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel > @cube.swau.edu > > image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM > > to file: > > pic25128.pcx) > > > > > > > > > Please respond to Jerry Hirschel > Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > > To: "Edis, Robert" , "Powerh-L > \$E-mail\$" > , "Jon \$Jarod\$ Hawks" > , > cc: > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > Security Level:? Internal > > > Welcome to a global economy. > -- > Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC > President > Professional Search Centre, Ltd. > 847-719-1200 x221 > 847-445-0003 cell > 847-719-1275 fax > jerryh@psc-usa.com > http://www.psc-usa.com > > Life is change, growth is optional. > > On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon $Jarod$ Hawks > > wrote: > >Well this is a switch. All the Americans that need a > >job can't get on because the positions are manned by > >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this job. > > > >--- "Edis, Robert" wrote: > >> Dear Listers > >> > >> I am forwarding this email in the hope that someone > >> of you may find it > >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes across as > >> noise. I am NOT > >> responsible for the content and do not know anything > >> about the original > >> sender or the positions other than what is written > >> here. > >> > >> Blue > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: India Jobs [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] > >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM > >> To: robert.edis@blistex.com > >> Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > >> > >> > >> Hi Robert, > >> > >> I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. Can you > >> post for me please. > >> > >> *** 50 Positions Open **** > >> JOB : > >> ----- > >> Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, Chennai. > >> HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 company > >> requires Software > >> Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 mini-computer. > >> All positions require > >> Indian nationals. > >> As a Software Engineer, you will involved in > >> development and maintenance of > >> HP3000 applications, porting, testing and > >> documenting the product. You will > >> also be responsible to contribute for application > >> migration to open systems. > >> Client expects you to have at least 2 years > >> experience with MPE/iX with > >> indepth knowledge of one or more of TurboImage / > >> ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and > >> HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, Powerhouse / > >> Speedware / and latest > >> Migration Tools is desireable. Exposure to > >> HP9000/HP-UX, J2EE, UML, .NET > >> Framework would be an added advantage however > >> familiarity with HP3000 is the > >> only core requirement. You would be analytical and > >> aware of SEI CMM Level 5 > >> quality processes. You will have an opportunity to > >> work on various target > >> platforms. > >> > >> Client : > >> -------- > >> Our client is a leading SEI CMM Level 5 company with > >> offices worldwide > >> providing software solutions including application > >> development, maintenance, > >> support, as well as migrations. > >> Job may require immediate over travel for short-term > >> / long term and > >> candidates showing flexibility only need apply. Work > >> is during normal day > >> shift but some limited after hours and weekend > >> oncall support on rotating > >> basis also required. > >> Salaries are very competitive and excellent growth > >> opportunities exists > >> within the organization. > >> Only matching candidates should send his or her > >> resume ASAP with salary > >> history to hp3kjobs@yahoo.com > >> > >> > >> > >> Rina > >> > >> > > > > > >===== > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > >subscriber. > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > > From hawksj@yahoo.com Tue Jul 8 02:19:20 2003 From: hawksj@yahoo.com (Jon (Jarod) Hawks) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 18:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030708011920.34544.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> Great discussion. I find it interesting to hear outsider viewpoints about American business. If it's so bad then why not just stay home and leave Americans to these jobs? I think it is time to justify this in the public opinion. I hope you don't mind, but I'm forwarding this on to the listing service for the news agencies and congress. I think this is most stimulating to test what Americans feel now about their jobs being manned by non-US citizens. Perhaps we'll see this issue as a major point in the upcoming elections. Thank you for sharing your opinion. We encourage them in the US. It's everyone's right to do so. --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" wrote: > I would not go that far George. The US has a bad > reputation for doing quite > the opposite! > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com > [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > > > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global but are > they? > > > > > > > > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel > > @cube.swau.edu > > > > > image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM > > > > > to file: > > > > > pic25128.pcx) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to Jerry Hirschel > > > Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > > > > > To: "Edis, Robert" , > "Powerh-L > > \$E-mail\$" > > , "Jon \$Jarod\$ > Hawks" > > , > > > cc: > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > India > > > > Security Level:? Internal > > > > > > Welcome to a global economy. > > -- > > Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC > > President > > Professional Search Centre, Ltd. > > 847-719-1200 x221 > > 847-445-0003 cell > > 847-719-1275 fax > > jerryh@psc-usa.com > > http://www.psc-usa.com > > > > Life is change, growth is optional. > > > > On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon $Jarod$ > Hawks > > > > wrote: > > >Well this is a switch. All the Americans that > need a > > >job can't get on because the positions are manned > by > > >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this job. > > > > > >--- "Edis, Robert" > wrote: > > >> Dear Listers > > >> > > >> I am forwarding this email in the hope that > someone > > >> of you may find it > > >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes across > as > > >> noise. I am NOT > > >> responsible for the content and do not know > anything > > >> about the original > > >> sender or the positions other than what is > written > > >> here. > > >> > > >> Blue > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: India Jobs [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] > > >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM > > >> To: robert.edis@blistex.com > > >> Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi Robert, > > >> > > >> I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. Can > you > > >> post for me please. > > >> > > >> *** 50 Positions Open **** > > >> JOB : > > >> ----- > > >> Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, Chennai. > > >> HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 > company > > >> requires Software > > >> Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 > mini-computer. > > >> All positions require > > >> Indian nationals. > > >> As a Software Engineer, you will involved in > > >> development and maintenance of > > >> HP3000 applications, porting, testing and > > >> documenting the product. You will > > >> also be responsible to contribute for > application > > >> migration to open systems. > > >> Client expects you to have at least 2 years > > >> experience with MPE/iX with > > >> indepth knowledge of one or more of TurboImage > / > > >> ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and > > >> HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, > Powerhouse / > > >> Speedware / and latest > > >> Migration Tools is desireable. Exposure to > > >> HP9000/HP-UX, J2EE, UML, .NET > > >> Framework would be an added advantage however > > >> familiarity with HP3000 is the > > >> only core requirement. You would be analytical > and > > >> aware of SEI CMM Level 5 > > >> quality processes. You will have an opportunity > to > > >> work on various target > > >> platforms. > > >> > > >> Client : > > >> -------- > > >> Our client is a leading SEI CMM Level 5 company > with > > >> offices worldwide > > >> providing software solutions including > application > > >> development, maintenance, > > >> support, as well as migrations. > > >> Job may require immediate over travel for > short-term > > >> / long term and > > >> candidates showing flexibility only need apply. > Work > > >> is during normal day > > >> shift but some limited after hours and weekend > > >> oncall support on rotating > > >> basis also required. > > >> Salaries are very competitive and excellent > growth > > >> opportunities exists > > >> within the organization. > > >> Only matching candidates should send his or her > > >> resume ASAP with salary > > >> history to hp3kjobs@yahoo.com > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Rina > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > >===== > > > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > = = = > > >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > > >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > must be a > === message truncated === ===== From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Tue Jul 8 02:36:06 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 09:36:06 +0800 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: Well, if uniformed thugs smash down my door in the middle of the night, I will surely be in contact with you! ;) > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:19 AM > To: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa); powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > Great discussion. I find it interesting to hear > outsider viewpoints about American business. If it's > so bad then why not just stay home and leave Americans > to these jobs? I think it is time to justify this in > the public opinion. I hope you don't mind, but I'm > forwarding this on to the listing service for the news > agencies and congress. I think this is most > stimulating to test what Americans feel now about > their jobs being manned by non-US citizens. Perhaps > we'll see this issue as a major point in the upcoming > elections. Thank you for sharing your opinion. We > encourage them in the US. > It's everyone's right to do so. > > > --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > wrote: > > I would not go that far George. The US has a bad > > reputation for doing quite > > the opposite! > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com > > [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > > > > > > > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global but are > > they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel > > > @cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM > > > > > > > > to file: > > > > > > > > pic25128.pcx) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to Jerry Hirschel > > > > > Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > To: "Edis, Robert" , > > "Powerh-L > > > \$E-mail\$" > > > , "Jon \$Jarod\$ > > Hawks" > > > , > > > > > cc: > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > India > > > > > > Security Level:? Internal > > > > > > > > > Welcome to a global economy. > > > -- > > > Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC > > > President > > > Professional Search Centre, Ltd. > > > 847-719-1200 x221 > > > 847-445-0003 cell > > > 847-719-1275 fax > > > jerryh@psc-usa.com > > > http://www.psc-usa.com > > > > > > Life is change, growth is optional. > > > > > > On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon $Jarod$ > > Hawks > > > > > > wrote: > > > >Well this is a switch. All the Americans that > > need a > > > >job can't get on because the positions are manned > > by > > > >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this job. > > > > > > > >--- "Edis, Robert" > > wrote: > > > >> Dear Listers > > > >> > > > >> I am forwarding this email in the hope that > > someone > > > >> of you may find it > > > >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes across > > as > > > >> noise. I am NOT > > > >> responsible for the content and do not know > > anything > > > >> about the original > > > >> sender or the positions other than what is > > written > > > >> here. > > > >> > > > >> Blue > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: India Jobs [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] > > > >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM > > > >> To: robert.edis@blistex.com > > > >> Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Hi Robert, > > > >> > > > >> I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. Can > > you > > > >> post for me please. > > > >> > > > >> *** 50 Positions Open **** > > > >> JOB : > > > >> ----- > > > >> Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, Chennai. > > > >> HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 > > company > > > >> requires Software > > > >> Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 > > mini-computer. > > > >> All positions require > > > >> Indian nationals. > > > >> As a Software Engineer, you will involved in > > > >> development and maintenance of > > > >> HP3000 applications, porting, testing and > > > >> documenting the product. You will > > > >> also be responsible to contribute for > > application > > > >> migration to open systems. > > > >> Client expects you to have at least 2 years > > > >> experience with MPE/iX with > > > >> indepth knowledge of one or more of TurboImage > > / > > > >> ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and > > > >> HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, > > Powerhouse / > > > >> Speedware / and latest > > > >> Migration Tools is desireable. Exposure to > > > >> HP9000/HP-UX, J2EE, UML, .NET > > > >> Framework would be an added advantage however > > > >> familiarity with HP3000 is the > > > >> only core requirement. You would be analytical > > and > > > >> aware of SEI CMM Level 5 > > > >> quality processes. You will have an opportunity > > to > > > >> work on various target > > > >> platforms. > > > >> > > > >> Client : > > > >> -------- > > > >> Our client is a leading SEI CMM Level 5 company > > with > > > >> offices worldwide > > > >> providing software solutions including > > application > > > >> development, maintenance, > > > >> support, as well as migrations. > > > >> Job may require immediate over travel for > > short-term > > > >> / long term and > > > >> candidates showing flexibility only need apply. > > Work > > > >> is during normal day > > > >> shift but some limited after hours and weekend > > > >> oncall support on rotating > > > >> basis also required. > > > >> Salaries are very competitive and excellent > > growth > > > >> opportunities exists > > > >> within the organization. > > > >> Only matching candidates should send his or her > > > >> resume ASAP with salary > > > >> history to hp3kjobs@yahoo.com > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Rina > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >===== > > > > > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > = = = > > > >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > > >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message > > body to > > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > > >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > > > >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you > > must be a > > > === message truncated === > > > ===== > From hawksj@yahoo.com Tue Jul 8 03:02:09 2003 From: hawksj@yahoo.com (Jon (Jarod) Hawks) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030708020209.90084.qmail@web41415.mail.yahoo.com> LMAO. Not to worry. There are many American citizens out of work this day. It's a sore issue now. --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" wrote: > Well, if uniformed thugs smash down my door in the > middle of the night, I > will surely be in contact with you! > > ;) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:19 AM > > To: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa); > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > > > > Great discussion. I find it interesting to hear > > outsider viewpoints about American business. If > it's > > so bad then why not just stay home and leave > Americans > > to these jobs? I think it is time to justify this > in > > the public opinion. I hope you don't mind, but I'm > > forwarding this on to the listing service for the > news > > agencies and congress. I think this is most > > stimulating to test what Americans feel now about > > their jobs being manned by non-US citizens. > Perhaps > > we'll see this issue as a major point in the > upcoming > > elections. Thank you for sharing your opinion. We > > encourage them in the US. > > It's everyone's right to do so. > > > > > > --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > wrote: > > > I would not go that far George. The US has a bad > > > reputation for doing quite > > > the opposite! > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com > > > [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM > > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global but > are > > > they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel > > > > @cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > to file: > > > > > > > > > > > > pic25128.pcx) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to Jerry Hirschel > > > > > > > Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "Edis, Robert" > , > > > "Powerh-L > > > > \$E-mail\$" > > > > , "Jon > \$Jarod\$ > > > Hawks" > > > > , > > > > > > > cc: > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > > India > > > > > > > > Security Level:? Internal > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to a global economy. > > > > -- > > > > Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC > > > > President > > > > Professional Search Centre, Ltd. > > > > 847-719-1200 x221 > > > > 847-445-0003 cell > > > > 847-719-1275 fax > > > > jerryh@psc-usa.com > > > > http://www.psc-usa.com > > > > > > > > Life is change, growth is optional. > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon $Jarod$ > > > Hawks > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >Well this is a switch. All the Americans that > > > need a > > > > >job can't get on because the positions are > manned > > > by > > > > >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this > job. > > > > > > > > > >--- "Edis, Robert" > > > wrote: > > > > >> Dear Listers > > > > >> > > > > >> I am forwarding this email in the hope that > > > someone > > > > >> of you may find it > > > > >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes > across > > > as > > > > >> noise. I am NOT > > > > >> responsible for the content and do not know > > > anything > > > > >> about the original > > > > >> sender or the positions other than what is > > > written > > > > >> here. > > > > >> > > > > >> Blue > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > >> From: India Jobs > [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] > > > > >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM > > > > >> To: robert.edis@blistex.com > > > > >> Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > India > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Hi Robert, > > > > >> > > > > >> I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. > Can > > > you > > > > >> post for me please. > > > > >> > > > > >> *** 50 Positions Open **** > > > > >> JOB : > > > > >> ----- > > > > >> Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, > Chennai. > > > > >> HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 > > > company > > > > >> requires Software > > > > >> Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 > > > mini-computer. > > > > >> All positions require > > > > >> Indian nationals. > > > > >> As a Software Engineer, you will involved > in > > > > >> development and maintenance of > > > > >> HP3000 applications, porting, testing and > > > > >> documenting the product. You will > > > > >> also be responsible to contribute for > > > application > > > > >> migration to open systems. > > > > >> Client expects you to have at least 2 > years > > > > >> experience with MPE/iX with > > > > >> indepth knowledge of one or more of > TurboImage > > > / > > > > >> ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and > > > > >> HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, > > > Powerhouse / > > > > >> Speedware / and latest > === message truncated === ===== From shediac92@hotmail.com Tue Jul 8 15:27:54 2003 From: shediac92@hotmail.com (Peter Bateman) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 11:27:54 -0300 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: Hi! I was told that the client is the Indian government. Do the other governments also restrict who can do work for them? It seems rather silly. You would think that they want the best people available working on their projects! >From: "Jon $Jarod$ Hawks" >To: "Olmos, Fernando $Sericon at Alcoa$" , >powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India >Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) > >LMAO. Not to worry. > >There are many American citizens out of work this day. >It's a sore issue now. > >--- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > wrote: > > Well, if uniformed thugs smash down my door in the > > middle of the night, I > > will surely be in contact with you! > > > > ;) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:19 AM > > > To: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa); > > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > > > > > > > Great discussion. I find it interesting to hear > > > outsider viewpoints about American business. If > > it's > > > so bad then why not just stay home and leave > > Americans > > > to these jobs? I think it is time to justify this > > in > > > the public opinion. I hope you don't mind, but I'm > > > forwarding this on to the listing service for the > > news > > > agencies and congress. I think this is most > > > stimulating to test what Americans feel now about > > > their jobs being manned by non-US citizens. > > Perhaps > > > we'll see this issue as a major point in the > > upcoming > > > elections. Thank you for sharing your opinion. We > > > encourage them in the US. > > > It's everyone's right to do so. > > > > > > > > > --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > > wrote: > > > > I would not go that far George. The US has a bad > > > > reputation for doing quite > > > > the opposite! > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com > > > > [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM > > > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global but > > are > > > > they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel > > > > > @cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to file: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pic25128.pcx) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to Jerry Hirschel > > > > > > > > > Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "Edis, Robert" > > , > > > > "Powerh-L > > > > > \$E-mail\$" > > > > > , "Jon > > \$Jarod\$ > > > > Hawks" > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > cc: > > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > > > India > > > > > > > > > > Security Level:? Internal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to a global economy. > > > > > -- > > > > > Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC > > > > > President > > > > > Professional Search Centre, Ltd. > > > > > 847-719-1200 x221 > > > > > 847-445-0003 cell > > > > > 847-719-1275 fax > > > > > jerryh@psc-usa.com > > > > > http://www.psc-usa.com > > > > > > > > > > Life is change, growth is optional. > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon $Jarod$ > > > > Hawks > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >Well this is a switch. All the Americans that > > > > need a > > > > > >job can't get on because the positions are > > manned > > > > by > > > > > >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this > > job. > > > > > > > > > > > >--- "Edis, Robert" > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Dear Listers > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I am forwarding this email in the hope that > > > > someone > > > > > >> of you may find it > > > > > >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes > > across > > > > as > > > > > >> noise. I am NOT > > > > > >> responsible for the content and do not know > > > > anything > > > > > >> about the original > > > > > >> sender or the positions other than what is > > > > written > > > > > >> here. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Blue > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >> From: India Jobs > > [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] > > > > > >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM > > > > > >> To: robert.edis@blistex.com > > > > > >> Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > India > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi Robert, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. > > Can > > > > you > > > > > >> post for me please. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> *** 50 Positions Open **** > > > > > >> JOB : > > > > > >> ----- > > > > > >> Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, > > Chennai. > > > > > >> HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 > > > > company > > > > > >> requires Software > > > > > >> Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 > > > > mini-computer. > > > > > >> All positions require > > > > > >> Indian nationals. > > > > > >> As a Software Engineer, you will involved > > in > > > > > >> development and maintenance of > > > > > >> HP3000 applications, porting, testing and > > > > > >> documenting the product. You will > > > > > >> also be responsible to contribute for > > > > application > > > > > >> migration to open systems. > > > > > >> Client expects you to have at least 2 > > years > > > > > >> experience with MPE/iX with > > > > > >> indepth knowledge of one or more of > > TurboImage > > > > / > > > > > >> ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and > > > > > >> HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, > > > > Powerhouse / > > > > > >> Speedware / and latest > > >=== message truncated === > > >===== > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to >powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From hawksj@yahoo.com Tue Jul 8 16:53:08 2003 From: hawksj@yahoo.com (Jon (Jarod) Hawks) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 08:53:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030708155308.96370.qmail@web41408.mail.yahoo.com> This is true. Back in the 80's the Saudi Govt hired 1000's of Americans and British, as well as folks from Canada, Germany, France and other countries to program their computers. --- Peter Bateman wrote: > Hi! > I was told that the client is the Indian government. > Do the other > governments also > restrict who can do work for them? It seems rather > silly. You would think > that they > want the best people available working on their > projects! > > > >From: "Jon $Jarod$ Hawks" > >To: "Olmos, Fernando $Sericon at Alcoa$" > , > >powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > >Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > >Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) > > > >LMAO. Not to worry. > > > >There are many American citizens out of work this > day. > >It's a sore issue now. > > > >--- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > wrote: > > > Well, if uniformed thugs smash down my door in > the > > > middle of the night, I > > > will surely be in contact with you! > > > > > > ;) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks > [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:19 AM > > > > To: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa); > > > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > India > > > > > > > > > > > > Great discussion. I find it interesting to > hear > > > > outsider viewpoints about American business. > If > > > it's > > > > so bad then why not just stay home and leave > > > Americans > > > > to these jobs? I think it is time to justify > this > > > in > > > > the public opinion. I hope you don't mind, but > I'm > > > > forwarding this on to the listing service for > the > > > news > > > > agencies and congress. I think this is most > > > > stimulating to test what Americans feel now > about > > > > their jobs being manned by non-US citizens. > > > Perhaps > > > > we'll see this issue as a major point in the > > > upcoming > > > > elections. Thank you for sharing your opinion. > We > > > > encourage them in the US. > > > > It's everyone's right to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > > > wrote: > > > > > I would not go that far George. The US has a > bad > > > > > reputation for doing quite > > > > > the opposite! > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com > > > > > [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM > > > > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > > India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global > but > > > are > > > > > they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel > > > > > > @cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to file: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pic25128.pcx) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to Jerry Hirschel > > > > > > > > > > > Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "Edis, Robert" > > > , > > > > > "Powerh-L > > > > > > \$E-mail\$" > > > > > > , "Jon > > > \$Jarod\$ > > > > > Hawks" > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > cc: > > > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings > in > > > > > India > > > > > > > > > > > > Security Level:? Internal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to a global economy. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC > > > > > > President > > > > > > Professional Search Centre, Ltd. > > > > > > 847-719-1200 x221 > > > > > > 847-445-0003 cell > > > > > > 847-719-1275 fax > > > > > > jerryh@psc-usa.com > > > > > > http://www.psc-usa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is change, growth is optional. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon > $Jarod$ > > > > > Hawks > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >Well this is a switch. All the Americans > that > > > > > need a > > > > > > >job can't get on because the positions > are > > > manned > > > > > by > > > > > > >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to > this > > > job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- "Edis, Robert" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> Dear Listers > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I am forwarding this email in the hope > that > > > > > someone > > > > > > >> of you may find it > > > > > > >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes > > > across > > > > > as > > > > > > >> noise. I am NOT > > > > > > >> responsible for the content and do not > know > > > > > anything > > > > > > >> about the original > > > > > > >> sender or the positions other than what > is > > > > > written > > > > > > >> here. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Blue > > > > > > >> > === message truncated === ===== From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Tue Jul 8 18:48:26 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:48:26 -0500 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01997FF0@BLISTEXEXC> G'day all Some further info on this gig and some of my own observations if you please. I asked the following: Q. Are the positions open only to candidates residing in the areas you indicate? (Pune, Bangalore, Chennai)? A. Positions are open to outside locations if they can relocate A. Client deals indirectly with Defence - so Indians preferred! Q. When you say that "Salaries are very competitive" what are you comparing with, only those places above or globally? A. Foremost reason cited by the client could also be .. the remuneration.. The average package offered are $800 (USD) - Rs. 40000 per month which anyway would automatically mean that only Indian's can work for that salary in India. I would like to point out that in both the USA and Australia ONLY citizens of those countries are allowed to work on defence related gigs. There are rare exceptions but that is the rule. That includes directly working for the DOD, government offices doing work related to the DOD (or even "Homeland Security"), and private firms directly or indirectly working on DOD projects. I received a postcard from Raytheon the other day that stated specifically that I had to be a USA citizen to work for them. Jon Hawks said "There are many American citizens out of work this day." Name ONE country where this is not the case? The unemployment rate in the USA is 6.1%. This might seem a lot to you but how about 16% in Germany or 40%+ in Botswana, both affluent nations. People in the USA directly and indirectly exploit people in other nations to make their lives better but in many cases make the economic situation in those other nations worse. The USA can no more survive without its economic ties to the rest of the world or without the continual inflow of fresh immigrants than a shark in a tide pool. How many Americans work in other countries? I came to the USA for adventure at a time when my skills were in high demand. I'm still here because I can't afford to leave, I have made so many good friends - mainly American citizens - who don't want me to leave, and because my skills are STILL in high demand. My gross income is higher than average so I don't get my work by undercutting an US citizen, I contribute in every way legally possible to this great nation and my local community, and I thank all those kind and generous American friends who have made my life here fulfilling. Blue -----Original Message----- From: Peter Bateman [mailto:shediac92@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:28 AM To: hawksj@yahoo.com; Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Hi! I was told that the client is the Indian government. Do the other governments also restrict who can do work for them? It seems rather silly. You would think that they want the best people available working on their projects! >From: "Jon $Jarod$ Hawks" >To: "Olmos, Fernando $Sericon at Alcoa$" , >powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India >Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) > >LMAO. Not to worry. > >There are many American citizens out of work this day. >It's a sore issue now. > >--- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > wrote: > > Well, if uniformed thugs smash down my door in the > > middle of the night, I > > will surely be in contact with you! > > > > ;) > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:19 AM > > > To: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa); > > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > > > > > > > Great discussion. I find it interesting to hear > > > outsider viewpoints about American business. If > > it's > > > so bad then why not just stay home and leave > > Americans > > > to these jobs? I think it is time to justify this > > in > > > the public opinion. I hope you don't mind, but I'm > > > forwarding this on to the listing service for the > > news > > > agencies and congress. I think this is most > > > stimulating to test what Americans feel now about > > > their jobs being manned by non-US citizens. > > Perhaps > > > we'll see this issue as a major point in the > > upcoming > > > elections. Thank you for sharing your opinion. We > > > encourage them in the US. > > > It's everyone's right to do so. > > > > > > > > > --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > > wrote: > > > > I would not go that far George. The US has a bad > > > > reputation for doing quite > > > > the opposite! > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com > > > > [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM > > > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global but > > are > > > > they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel > > > > > @cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to file: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pic25128.pcx) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to Jerry Hirschel > > > > > > > > > Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "Edis, Robert" > > , > > > > "Powerh-L > > > > > \$E-mail\$" > > > > > , "Jon > > \$Jarod\$ > > > > Hawks" > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > cc: > > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > > > India > > > > > > > > > > Security Level:? Internal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to a global economy. > > > > > -- > > > > > Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC > > > > > President > > > > > Professional Search Centre, Ltd. > > > > > 847-719-1200 x221 > > > > > 847-445-0003 cell > > > > > 847-719-1275 fax > > > > > jerryh@psc-usa.com > > > > > http://www.psc-usa.com > > > > > > > > > > Life is change, growth is optional. > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon $Jarod$ > > > > Hawks > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >Well this is a switch. All the Americans that > > > > need a > > > > > >job can't get on because the positions are > > manned > > > > by > > > > > >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this > > job. > > > > > > > > > > > >--- "Edis, Robert" > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Dear Listers > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I am forwarding this email in the hope that > > > > someone > > > > > >> of you may find it > > > > > >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes > > across > > > > as > > > > > >> noise. I am NOT > > > > > >> responsible for the content and do not know > > > > anything > > > > > >> about the original > > > > > >> sender or the positions other than what is > > > > written > > > > > >> here. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Blue > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > >> From: India Jobs > > [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] > > > > > >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM > > > > > >> To: robert.edis@blistex.com > > > > > >> Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > India > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi Robert, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. > > Can > > > > you > > > > > >> post for me please. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> *** 50 Positions Open **** > > > > > >> JOB : > > > > > >> ----- > > > > > >> Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, > > Chennai. > > > > > >> HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 > > > > company > > > > > >> requires Software > > > > > >> Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 > > > > mini-computer. > > > > > >> All positions require > > > > > >> Indian nationals. > > > > > >> As a Software Engineer, you will involved > > in > > > > > >> development and maintenance of > > > > > >> HP3000 applications, porting, testing and > > > > > >> documenting the product. You will > > > > > >> also be responsible to contribute for > > > > application > > > > > >> migration to open systems. > > > > > >> Client expects you to have at least 2 > > years > > > > > >> experience with MPE/iX with > > > > > >> indepth knowledge of one or more of > > TurboImage > > > > / > > > > > >> ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and > > > > > >> HP-COBOL. 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From hawksj@yahoo.com Tue Jul 8 19:17:51 2003 From: hawksj@yahoo.com (Jon (Jarod) Hawks) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India In-Reply-To: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01997FF0@BLISTEXEXC> Message-ID: <20030708181751.6994.qmail@web41414.mail.yahoo.com> All opinions are needed on this. You left out a detail though, the countries that are also suffering unemployment, are not necessarily in the computer industry, where the majority of H1's are issued. Also, you left out South Africa, which had a mass migration of professionals a few years back, escaping the retribution of apartheid. The professionals in our industry did have a place to go, the USA. --- "Edis, Robert" wrote: > G'day all > > Some further info on this gig and some of my own > observations if you please. > > I asked the following: > > Q. Are the positions open only to candidates > residing in the areas you > indicate? (Pune, Bangalore, Chennai)? > A. Positions are open to outside locations if they > can relocate > A. Client deals indirectly with Defence - so Indians > preferred! > > Q. When you say that "Salaries are very competitive" > what are you comparing > with, only those places above or globally? > A. Foremost reason cited by the client could also be > .. the remuneration.. > The average package offered are $800 (USD) - Rs. > 40000 per month which > anyway would automatically mean that only Indian's > can work for that salary > in India. > > I would like to point out that in both the USA and > Australia ONLY citizens > of those countries are allowed to work on defence > related gigs. There are > rare exceptions but that is the rule. That includes > directly working for > the DOD, government offices doing work related to > the DOD (or even "Homeland > Security"), and private firms directly or indirectly > working on DOD > projects. I received a postcard from Raytheon the > other day that stated > specifically that I had to be a USA citizen to work > for them. > > Jon Hawks said "There are many American citizens out > of work this day." > Name ONE country where this is not the case? The > unemployment rate in the > USA is 6.1%. This might seem a lot to you but how > about 16% in Germany or > 40%+ in Botswana, both affluent nations. People in > the USA directly and > indirectly exploit people in other nations to make > their lives better but in > many cases make the economic situation in those > other nations worse. The > USA can no more survive without its economic ties to > the rest of the world > or without the continual inflow of fresh immigrants > than a shark in a tide > pool. > > How many Americans work in other countries? > > I came to the USA for adventure at a time when my > skills were in high > demand. I'm still here because I can't afford to > leave, I have made so many > good friends - mainly American citizens - who don't > want me to leave, and > because my skills are STILL in high demand. My > gross income is higher than > average so I don't get my work by undercutting an US > citizen, I contribute > in every way legally possible to this great nation > and my local community, > and I thank all those kind and generous American > friends who have made my > life here fulfilling. > > Blue > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Bateman [mailto:shediac92@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:28 AM > To: hawksj@yahoo.com; Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au; > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > Hi! > I was told that the client is the Indian government. > Do the other > governments also > restrict who can do work for them? It seems rather > silly. You would think > that they > want the best people available working on their > projects! > > > >From: "Jon $Jarod$ Hawks" > >To: "Olmos, Fernando $Sericon at Alcoa$" > , > > >powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > >Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > >Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) > > > >LMAO. Not to worry. > > > >There are many American citizens out of work this > day. > >It's a sore issue now. > > > >--- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > wrote: > > > Well, if uniformed thugs smash down my door in > the > > > middle of the night, I > > > will surely be in contact with you! > > > > > > ;) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks > [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:19 AM > > > > To: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa); > > > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > India > > > > > > > > > > > > Great discussion. I find it interesting to > hear > > > > outsider viewpoints about American business. > If > > > it's > > > > so bad then why not just stay home and leave > > > Americans > > > > to these jobs? I think it is time to justify > this > > > in > > > > the public opinion. I hope you don't mind, but > I'm > > > > forwarding this on to the listing service for > the > > > news > > > > agencies and congress. I think this is most > > > > stimulating to test what Americans feel now > about > > > > their jobs being manned by non-US citizens. > > > Perhaps > > > > we'll see this issue as a major point in the > > > upcoming > > > > elections. Thank you for sharing your opinion. > We > > > > encourage them in the US. > > > > It's everyone's right to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > > > wrote: > > > > > I would not go that far George. The US has a > bad > > > > > reputation for doing quite > > > > > the opposite! > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com > > > > > [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM > > > > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > > India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global > but > > > are > > > > > they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel > > > > > > @cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to file: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pic25128.pcx) > === message truncated === ===== From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Tue Jul 8 19:35:49 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 13:35:49 -0500 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C0199802A@BLISTEXEXC> Jon Hawks wrote: "All opinions are needed on this." I agree that all should be allowed to present their opinion. However such opinions must not obscure the facts. "You left out a detail though, the countries that are also suffering unemployment, are not necessarily in the computer industry ..." My understanding of the situation in Germany is that computer professionals ARE in the ranks of the unemployed. Botswana is wealthy through primary resources such as diamonds so I don't know about the IT work situation there - I'll ask my brother-in-law in Gaborone. >From what I've read even Indian IT professionals are suffering with many being laid off and smaller companies going bust due to the downturn in demand from overseas. I would like to hear from computer professionals in those countries that are suffering high unemployment if their profession is affected. "where the majority of H1's are issued." That is not correct. The primary recipients of H1 visas are engineers (including programmers), teachers and nurses. I believe engineers outnumber teachers and nurses but no significantly. Of the engineering classification at least 50% are computer professionals. However the latest stats from the INS show that the previous and the current year's H1 quota s are unfilled, particularly in the engineering class. The facts on H1 issues are somewhat vague but generally available from sources such as the INS itself. What numbers do you have and where do those numbers come from? "Also, you left out South Africa ... did have a place to go, the USA." Actually South African professionals went to many destinations. There is a sizable Afrikaans contingent in Sydney and I knew many ex-South Africans in Perth. The U.K. has also been a significant receiver of South African talent. In 9 years of working in various parts of the USA I have only met 2 South African computer professionals. How many do you know? Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:18 PM To: Edis, Robert; Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India All opinions are needed on this. You left out a detail though, the countries that are also suffering unemployment, are not necessarily in the computer industry, where the majority of H1's are issued. Also, you left out South Africa, which had a mass migration of professionals a few years back, escaping the retribution of apartheid. The professionals in our industry did have a place to go, the USA. --- "Edis, Robert" wrote: > G'day all > > Some further info on this gig and some of my own > observations if you please. > > I asked the following: > > Q. Are the positions open only to candidates > residing in the areas you > indicate? (Pune, Bangalore, Chennai)? > A. Positions are open to outside locations if they > can relocate > A. Client deals indirectly with Defence - so Indians > preferred! > > Q. When you say that "Salaries are very competitive" > what are you comparing > with, only those places above or globally? > A. Foremost reason cited by the client could also be > .. the remuneration.. > The average package offered are $800 (USD) - Rs. > 40000 per month which > anyway would automatically mean that only Indian's > can work for that salary > in India. > > I would like to point out that in both the USA and > Australia ONLY citizens > of those countries are allowed to work on defence > related gigs. There are > rare exceptions but that is the rule. That includes > directly working for > the DOD, government offices doing work related to > the DOD (or even "Homeland > Security"), and private firms directly or indirectly > working on DOD > projects. I received a postcard from Raytheon the > other day that stated > specifically that I had to be a USA citizen to work > for them. > > Jon Hawks said "There are many American citizens out > of work this day." > Name ONE country where this is not the case? The > unemployment rate in the > USA is 6.1%. This might seem a lot to you but how > about 16% in Germany or > 40%+ in Botswana, both affluent nations. People in > the USA directly and > indirectly exploit people in other nations to make > their lives better but in > many cases make the economic situation in those > other nations worse. The > USA can no more survive without its economic ties to > the rest of the world > or without the continual inflow of fresh immigrants > than a shark in a tide > pool. > > How many Americans work in other countries? > > I came to the USA for adventure at a time when my > skills were in high > demand. I'm still here because I can't afford to > leave, I have made so many > good friends - mainly American citizens - who don't > want me to leave, and > because my skills are STILL in high demand. My > gross income is higher than > average so I don't get my work by undercutting an US > citizen, I contribute > in every way legally possible to this great nation > and my local community, > and I thank all those kind and generous American > friends who have made my > life here fulfilling. > > Blue > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Bateman [mailto:shediac92@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:28 AM > To: hawksj@yahoo.com; Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au; > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > Hi! > I was told that the client is the Indian government. > Do the other > governments also > restrict who can do work for them? It seems rather > silly. You would think > that they > want the best people available working on their > projects! > > > >From: "Jon $Jarod$ Hawks" > >To: "Olmos, Fernando $Sericon at Alcoa$" > , > > >powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > >Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > >Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) > > > >LMAO. Not to worry. > > > >There are many American citizens out of work this > day. > >It's a sore issue now. > > > >--- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > wrote: > > > Well, if uniformed thugs smash down my door in > the > > > middle of the night, I > > > will surely be in contact with you! > > > > > > ;) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks > [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:19 AM > > > > To: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa); > > > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > India > > > > > > > > > > > > Great discussion. I find it interesting to > hear > > > > outsider viewpoints about American business. > If > > > it's > > > > so bad then why not just stay home and leave > > > Americans > > > > to these jobs? I think it is time to justify > this > > > in > > > > the public opinion. I hope you don't mind, but > I'm > > > > forwarding this on to the listing service for > the > > > news > > > > agencies and congress. I think this is most > > > > stimulating to test what Americans feel now > about > > > > their jobs being manned by non-US citizens. > > > Perhaps > > > > we'll see this issue as a major point in the > > > upcoming > > > > elections. Thank you for sharing your opinion. > We > > > > encourage them in the US. > > > > It's everyone's right to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > > > wrote: > > > > > I would not go that far George. The US has a > bad > > > > > reputation for doing quite > > > > > the opposite! > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com > > > > > [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM > > > > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > > India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global > but > > > are > > > > > they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel > > > > > > @cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to file: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pic25128.pcx) > === message truncated === ===== From hawksj@yahoo.com Tue Jul 8 20:16:56 2003 From: hawksj@yahoo.com (Jon (Jarod) Hawks) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 12:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India In-Reply-To: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C0199802A@BLISTEXEXC> Message-ID: <20030708191656.52811.qmail@web41404.mail.yahoo.com> You must have something else to do other than monitor the INS stats, but, since you desire to elevate this to a personal mission, I had to add that I think that your zest for facts may outweigh the facts themselves. My take is the same. Perhaps you can help us by obtaining these facts from the INS which you appear to have a close association with. I'd love to see what you turn up. --- "Edis, Robert" wrote: > Jon Hawks wrote: > "All opinions are needed on this." > > I agree that all should be allowed to present their > opinion. However such > opinions must not obscure the facts. > > "You left out a detail though, the countries that > are also suffering > unemployment, are not necessarily in the computer > industry ..." > > My understanding of the situation in Germany is that > computer professionals > ARE in the ranks of the unemployed. Botswana is > wealthy through primary > resources such as diamonds so I don't know about the > IT work situation there > - I'll ask my brother-in-law in Gaborone. > > From what I've read even Indian IT professionals are > suffering with many > being laid off and smaller companies going bust due > to the downturn in > demand from overseas. > > I would like to hear from computer professionals in > those countries that are > suffering high unemployment if their profession is > affected. > > "where the majority of H1's are issued." > > That is not correct. The primary recipients of H1 > visas are engineers > (including programmers), teachers and nurses. I > believe engineers outnumber > teachers and nurses but no significantly. Of the > engineering classification > at least 50% are computer professionals. However > the latest stats from the > INS show that the previous and the current year's H1 > quota s are unfilled, > particularly in the engineering class. The facts on > H1 issues are somewhat > vague but generally available from sources such as > the INS itself. What > numbers do you have and where do those numbers come > from? > > "Also, you left out South Africa ... did have a > place to go, the USA." > > Actually South African professionals went to many > destinations. There is a > sizable Afrikaans contingent in Sydney and I knew > many ex-South Africans in > Perth. The U.K. has also been a significant > receiver of South African > talent. In 9 years of working in various parts of > the USA I have only met 2 > South African computer professionals. How many do > you know? > > Regards, > Blue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:18 PM > To: Edis, Robert; Powerh-L (E-mail) > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > All opinions are needed on this. You left out a > detail > though, the countries that are also suffering > unemployment, are not necessarily in the computer > industry, where the majority of H1's are issued. > Also, > you left out South Africa, which had a mass > migration > of professionals a few years back, escaping the > retribution of apartheid. The professionals in our > industry did have a place to go, the USA. > > --- "Edis, Robert" wrote: > > G'day all > > > > Some further info on this gig and some of my own > > observations if you please. > > > > I asked the following: > > > > Q. Are the positions open only to candidates > > residing in the areas you > > indicate? (Pune, Bangalore, Chennai)? > > A. Positions are open to outside locations if they > > can relocate > > A. Client deals indirectly with Defence - so > Indians > > preferred! > > > > Q. When you say that "Salaries are very > competitive" > > what are you comparing > > with, only those places above or globally? > > A. Foremost reason cited by the client could also > be > > .. the remuneration.. > > The average package offered are $800 (USD) - Rs. > > 40000 per month which > > anyway would automatically mean that only Indian's > > can work for that salary > > in India. > > > > I would like to point out that in both the USA and > > Australia ONLY citizens > > of those countries are allowed to work on defence > > related gigs. There are > > rare exceptions but that is the rule. That > includes > > directly working for > > the DOD, government offices doing work related to > > the DOD (or even "Homeland > > Security"), and private firms directly or > indirectly > > working on DOD > > projects. I received a postcard from Raytheon the > > other day that stated > > specifically that I had to be a USA citizen to > work > > for them. > > > > Jon Hawks said "There are many American citizens > out > > of work this day." > > Name ONE country where this is not the case? The > > unemployment rate in the > > USA is 6.1%. This might seem a lot to you but how > > about 16% in Germany or > > 40%+ in Botswana, both affluent nations. People > in > > the USA directly and > > indirectly exploit people in other nations to make > > their lives better but in > > many cases make the economic situation in those > > other nations worse. The > > USA can no more survive without its economic ties > to > > the rest of the world > > or without the continual inflow of fresh > immigrants > > than a shark in a tide > > pool. > > > > How many Americans work in other countries? > > > > I came to the USA for adventure at a time when my > > skills were in high > > demand. I'm still here because I can't afford to > > leave, I have made so many > > good friends - mainly American citizens - who > don't > > want me to leave, and > > because my skills are STILL in high demand. My > > gross income is higher than > > average so I don't get my work by undercutting an > US > > citizen, I contribute > > in every way legally possible to this great nation > > and my local community, > > and I thank all those kind and generous American > > friends who have made my > > life here fulfilling. > > > > Blue > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Bateman [mailto:shediac92@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:28 AM > > To: hawksj@yahoo.com; Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au; > > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > > > > Hi! > > I was told that the client is the Indian > government. > > Do the other > > governments also > > restrict who can do work for them? It seems rather > > silly. You would think > > that they > > want the best people available working on their > > projects! > > > > > > >From: "Jon $Jarod$ Hawks" > > >To: "Olmos, Fernando $Sericon at Alcoa$" > === message truncated === ===== From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Tue Jul 8 20:29:16 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2003 14:29:16 -0500 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C019980B5@BLISTEXEXC> Being an ex-H1B myself it was in my own interest to be knowledgeable about this issue. My primary sources were Talent Economy magazine (was Contract Professional www.talenteconomymag.com), a legal newsletter I subscribed to (I'll have to dig up the URL at home), and the INS web site itself (www.bcis.gov). I will find what I can. As the subject has digressed somewhat from Cognos ADT issues perhaps I can send the results directly to any listers who desire the info. Please let me know personally if you want it. Blue -----Original Message----- From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:17 PM To: Edis, Robert; Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India You must have something else to do other than monitor the INS stats, but, since you desire to elevate this to a personal mission, I had to add that I think that your zest for facts may outweigh the facts themselves. My take is the same. Perhaps you can help us by obtaining these facts from the INS which you appear to have a close association with. I'd love to see what you turn up. --- "Edis, Robert" wrote: > Jon Hawks wrote: > "All opinions are needed on this." > > I agree that all should be allowed to present their > opinion. However such > opinions must not obscure the facts. > > "You left out a detail though, the countries that > are also suffering > unemployment, are not necessarily in the computer > industry ..." > > My understanding of the situation in Germany is that > computer professionals > ARE in the ranks of the unemployed. Botswana is > wealthy through primary > resources such as diamonds so I don't know about the > IT work situation there > - I'll ask my brother-in-law in Gaborone. > > From what I've read even Indian IT professionals are > suffering with many > being laid off and smaller companies going bust due > to the downturn in > demand from overseas. > > I would like to hear from computer professionals in > those countries that are > suffering high unemployment if their profession is > affected. > > "where the majority of H1's are issued." > > That is not correct. The primary recipients of H1 > visas are engineers > (including programmers), teachers and nurses. I > believe engineers outnumber > teachers and nurses but no significantly. Of the > engineering classification > at least 50% are computer professionals. However > the latest stats from the > INS show that the previous and the current year's H1 > quota s are unfilled, > particularly in the engineering class. The facts on > H1 issues are somewhat > vague but generally available from sources such as > the INS itself. What > numbers do you have and where do those numbers come > from? > > "Also, you left out South Africa ... did have a > place to go, the USA." > > Actually South African professionals went to many > destinations. There is a > sizable Afrikaans contingent in Sydney and I knew > many ex-South Africans in > Perth. The U.K. has also been a significant > receiver of South African > talent. In 9 years of working in various parts of > the USA I have only met 2 > South African computer professionals. How many do > you know? > > Regards, > Blue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 1:18 PM > To: Edis, Robert; Powerh-L (E-mail) > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > All opinions are needed on this. You left out a > detail > though, the countries that are also suffering > unemployment, are not necessarily in the computer > industry, where the majority of H1's are issued. > Also, > you left out South Africa, which had a mass > migration > of professionals a few years back, escaping the > retribution of apartheid. The professionals in our > industry did have a place to go, the USA. > > --- "Edis, Robert" wrote: > > G'day all > > > > Some further info on this gig and some of my own > > observations if you please. > > > > I asked the following: > > > > Q. Are the positions open only to candidates > > residing in the areas you > > indicate? (Pune, Bangalore, Chennai)? > > A. Positions are open to outside locations if they > > can relocate > > A. Client deals indirectly with Defence - so > Indians > > preferred! > > > > Q. When you say that "Salaries are very > competitive" > > what are you comparing > > with, only those places above or globally? > > A. Foremost reason cited by the client could also > be > > .. the remuneration.. > > The average package offered are $800 (USD) - Rs. > > 40000 per month which > > anyway would automatically mean that only Indian's > > can work for that salary > > in India. > > > > I would like to point out that in both the USA and > > Australia ONLY citizens > > of those countries are allowed to work on defence > > related gigs. There are > > rare exceptions but that is the rule. That > includes > > directly working for > > the DOD, government offices doing work related to > > the DOD (or even "Homeland > > Security"), and private firms directly or > indirectly > > working on DOD > > projects. I received a postcard from Raytheon the > > other day that stated > > specifically that I had to be a USA citizen to > work > > for them. > > > > Jon Hawks said "There are many American citizens > out > > of work this day." > > Name ONE country where this is not the case? The > > unemployment rate in the > > USA is 6.1%. This might seem a lot to you but how > > about 16% in Germany or > > 40%+ in Botswana, both affluent nations. People > in > > the USA directly and > > indirectly exploit people in other nations to make > > their lives better but in > > many cases make the economic situation in those > > other nations worse. The > > USA can no more survive without its economic ties > to > > the rest of the world > > or without the continual inflow of fresh > immigrants > > than a shark in a tide > > pool. > > > > How many Americans work in other countries? > > > > I came to the USA for adventure at a time when my > > skills were in high > > demand. I'm still here because I can't afford to > > leave, I have made so many > > good friends - mainly American citizens - who > don't > > want me to leave, and > > because my skills are STILL in high demand. My > > gross income is higher than > > average so I don't get my work by undercutting an > US > > citizen, I contribute > > in every way legally possible to this great nation > > and my local community, > > and I thank all those kind and generous American > > friends who have made my > > life here fulfilling. > > > > Blue > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Peter Bateman [mailto:shediac92@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:28 AM > > To: hawksj@yahoo.com; Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au; > > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > > > > Hi! > > I was told that the client is the Indian > government. > > Do the other > > governments also > > restrict who can do work for them? It seems rather > > silly. You would think > > that they > > want the best people available working on their > > projects! > > > > > > >From: "Jon $Jarod$ Hawks" > > >To: "Olmos, Fernando $Sericon at Alcoa$" > === message truncated === ===== From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Tue Jul 8 23:43:06 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 06:43:06 +0800 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: If the client says, "JUMP!", you ask "HOW HIGH SIR?". If they want local people, they'll get local people. > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Bateman [mailto:shediac92@hotmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:28 AM > To: hawksj@yahoo.com; Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au; > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > Hi! > I was told that the client is the Indian government. Do the other > governments also > restrict who can do work for them? It seems rather silly. You > would think > that they > want the best people available working on their projects! > > > >From: "Jon $Jarod$ Hawks" > >To: "Olmos, Fernando $Sericon at Alcoa$" > , > >powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > >Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > >Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2003 19:02:09 -0700 (PDT) > > > >LMAO. Not to worry. > > > >There are many American citizens out of work this day. > >It's a sore issue now. > > > >--- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > wrote: > > > Well, if uniformed thugs smash down my door in the > > > middle of the night, I > > > will surely be in contact with you! > > > > > > ;) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jon (Jarod) Hawks [mailto:hawksj@yahoo.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:19 AM > > > > To: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa); > > > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > > > > > > > > > > > > Great discussion. I find it interesting to hear > > > > outsider viewpoints about American business. If > > > it's > > > > so bad then why not just stay home and leave > > > Americans > > > > to these jobs? I think it is time to justify this > > > in > > > > the public opinion. I hope you don't mind, but I'm > > > > forwarding this on to the listing service for the > > > news > > > > agencies and congress. I think this is most > > > > stimulating to test what Americans feel now about > > > > their jobs being manned by non-US citizens. > > > Perhaps > > > > we'll see this issue as a major point in the > > > upcoming > > > > elections. Thank you for sharing your opinion. We > > > > encourage them in the US. > > > > It's everyone's right to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- "Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)" > > > > wrote: > > > > > I would not go that far George. The US has a bad > > > > > reputation for doing quite > > > > > the opposite! > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com > > > > > [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 7:21 AM > > > > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > > India > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's the problem; we're playing global but > > > are > > > > > they? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Embedded Jerry Hirschel > > > > > > @cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > image moved 07/07/2003 04:02 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to file: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > pic25128.pcx) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please respond to Jerry Hirschel > > > > > > > > > > > Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: "Edis, Robert" > > > , > > > > > "Powerh-L > > > > > > \$E-mail\$" > > > > > > , "Jon > > > \$Jarod\$ > > > > > Hawks" > > > > > > , > > > > > > > > > > > cc: > > > > > > Subject: Re: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > > > > India > > > > > > > > > > > > Security Level:? Internal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to a global economy. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC > > > > > > President > > > > > > Professional Search Centre, Ltd. > > > > > > 847-719-1200 x221 > > > > > > 847-445-0003 cell > > > > > > 847-719-1275 fax > > > > > > jerryh@psc-usa.com > > > > > > http://www.psc-usa.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Life is change, growth is optional. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Monday, July 7, 2003 3:38 PM, Jon $Jarod$ > > > > > Hawks > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >Well this is a switch. All the Americans that > > > > > need a > > > > > > >job can't get on because the positions are > > > manned > > > > > by > > > > > > >H1 Visa's, but no American can apply to this > > > job. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--- "Edis, Robert" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >> Dear Listers > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I am forwarding this email in the hope that > > > > > someone > > > > > > >> of you may find it > > > > > > >> useful. Please forgive me if it comes > > > across > > > > > as > > > > > > >> noise. I am NOT > > > > > > >> responsible for the content and do not know > > > > > anything > > > > > > >> about the original > > > > > > >> sender or the positions other than what is > > > > > written > > > > > > >> here. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Blue > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > > > > >> From: India Jobs > > > [mailto:hp3kjobs@yahoo.com] > > > > > > >> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:33 AM > > > > > > >> To: robert.edis@blistex.com > > > > > > >> Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in > > > India > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hi Robert, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> I am not subscribed to the Powerh-l list .. > > > Can > > > > > you > > > > > > >> post for me please. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> *** 50 Positions Open **** > > > > > > >> JOB : > > > > > > >> ----- > > > > > > >> Full Time positons in Pune, Bangalore, > > > Chennai. > > > > > > >> HP3000 Practice of a major SEI CMM Level 5 > > > > > company > > > > > > >> requires Software > > > > > > >> Engineers, Project Leaders for HP3000 > > > > > mini-computer. > > > > > > >> All positions require > > > > > > >> Indian nationals. > > > > > > >> As a Software Engineer, you will involved > > > in > > > > > > >> development and maintenance of > > > > > > >> HP3000 applications, porting, testing and > > > > > > >> documenting the product. You will > > > > > > >> also be responsible to contribute for > > > > > application > > > > > > >> migration to open systems. > > > > > > >> Client expects you to have at least 2 > > > years > > > > > > >> experience with MPE/iX with > > > > > > >> indepth knowledge of one or more of > > > TurboImage > > > > > / > > > > > > >> ALLBASE-SQL, KSAM and > > > > > > >> HP-COBOL. Knowledge of HP Intrinsics, > > > > > Powerhouse / > > > > > > >> Speedware / and latest > > > > >=== message truncated === > > > > > >===== > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to > >powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > From stewm@canada.com Wed Jul 9 04:48:25 2003 From: stewm@canada.com (stewm@canada.com) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 20:48:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <20030708204827.18945.h002.c009.wm@mail.canada.com.criticalpath.net> When the United States and Canada, for that matter, let India citizens work over here fine but it should go both ways, that's fair. HOWEVER, the biggest limitation in all this is not the citizenship of the individual for the India PowerHouse posting. We know that since it is a HP3000 enviroment that VAX/Unix/PowerHouse professionals have no chance of getting the job...hehehe. Immigration may not only fill up some IT spots but also it doesn't do the countries where these people come from any favors either. In Nova Scotia there is a Doctor who can't get his license and he practiced in Yugoslavia for 20 years, he came to Canada to excape the troops of Slobodan Milosevic. The war is over there now and he is still in Nova Scotia working as a Vet's assistant. He could go back there and be a doctor but it's too late I guess. I have saw IT jobs advertised that say US citizens need only apply. It's up to the company. If they feel they need people from away then they have the freedom to choose because it's a free country. I worked in Chicago where there were 9 PowerHouse professionals from Canada. A lot of Canadians received their training in PowerHouse 4GL in CIPS certified colleges. It used to be a part of the 4GL curriculum in many business information technology courses here in Canada. I guess because it's a 'made in Canada' language. I never met an American who was trained in PowerHouse back in college. I think maybe that company had no choice but to hire Canadians to do PowerHouse at that time. I spoke with the Director of IT there and he asked me one day, "Are the only people who know this Canadian?" American do get jobs in other countries too. The Botswana government hired a U.S. public relations firm to try and convince the public that most diamonds are not blood diamonds and that Botswana population is safe from rebels and corruption. They are an affluent nation like Blue said so they can afford it. Blue, the United States has dozens of highly specialized Canadians (non citizens) working within the highest ranks of their defense department. They also work closely at NORAD http://www.norad.mil/. Couldn't help jumping into this one, Jon and Blue, ex-DTEers. Nice discussion. Tried to add a PowerHouse spin to it, to not got too far of the topic of discussion. Mark Consultants Club Corp. Quote for the Day: Live by the sword, die by the sword. From stewm@canada.com Wed Jul 9 05:14:25 2003 From: stewm@canada.com (stewm@canada.com) Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2003 21:14:25 -0700 (PDT) Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <20030708211427.21674.h002.c009.wm@mail.canada.com.criticalpath.net> When the United States and Canada, for that matter, let India citizens work over here fine but it should go both ways, that's fair. HOWEVER, the biggest limitation in all this is not the citizenship of the individual for the India PowerHouse posting. We know that since it is a HP3000 enviroment that VAX/Unix/PowerHouse professionals have no chance of getting the job...hehehe. Immigration may not only fill up some IT spots but also it doesn't do the countries where these people come from any favors either. In Nova Scotia there is a Doctor who can't get his license and he practiced in Yugoslavia for 20 years, he came to Canada to excape the troops of Slobodan Milosevic. The war is over there now and he is still in Nova Scotia working as a Vet's assistant. He could go back there and be a doctor but it's too late I guess. I have saw IT jobs advertised that say US citizens need only apply. It's up to the company. If they feel they need people from away then they have the freedom to choose because it's a free country. I worked in Chicago where there were 9 PowerHouse professionals from Canada. A lot of Canadians received their training in PowerHouse 4GL in CIPS certified colleges. It used to be a part of the 4GL curriculum in many business information technology courses here in Canada. I guess because it's a 'made in Canada' language. I never met an American who was trained in PowerHouse back in college. I think maybe that company had no choice but to hire Canadians to do PowerHouse at that time. I spoke with the Director of IT there and he asked me one day, "Are the only people who know this Canadian?" American do get jobs in other countries too. The Botswana government hired a U.S. public relations firm to try and convince the public that most diamonds are not blood diamonds and that Botswana population is safe from rebels and corruption. They are an affluent nation like Blue said so they can afford it. Blue, the United States has dozens of highly specialized Canadians (non citizens) working within the highest ranks of their defense department. They also work closely at NORAD http://www.norad.mil/. Couldn't help jumping into this one, Jon and Blue, ex-DTEers. Nice discussion. Tried to add a PowerHouse spin to it, to not got too far of the topic of discussion. Mark Consultants Club Corp. Quote for the Day: Live by the sword, die by the sword. From ian.wedge@ramesys.com Wed Jul 9 09:03:40 2003 From: ian.wedge@ramesys.com (Ian Wedge) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 09:03:40 +0100 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India In-Reply-To: <20030708011920.34544.qmail@web41409.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Funnily enough, awareness and use of open debate doesn't stop at the US borders! :-) Ian Wedge -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Jon (Jarod) Hawks Sent: 08 July 2003 02:19 To: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa); powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Thank you for sharing your opinion. We encourage them in the US. From Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com Wed Jul 9 13:41:39 2003 From: Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com (Johnson, Tracy) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 08:41:39 -0400 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <970F565A5733E64686BC3A10FBBAE87C10FB04@zeus.noam.msiusa.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Edis, Robert > > Being an ex-H1B myself it was in my own interest to be > knowledgeable about > this issue. My primary sources were Talent Economy magazine > (was Contract > Professional www.talenteconomymag.com), a legal newsletter I > subscribed to ... Dead or timed out link. BT Tracy Johnson MSI Schaevitz Sensors From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Thu Jul 10 01:01:42 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:01:42 +0800 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: > When the United States and Canada, for that matter, let > India citizens work over here fine but it should go > both ways, that's fair. Realistically, would you want to work in India? Are you really that desperate? India is a beautiful country to visit, I have, but to live.... no way. Believe me, we have the best lifestyle here, without all the violence, racial tensions, witchcraft, and political rubbish. Stay home, trust me. From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Thu Jul 10 01:52:13 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:52:13 -0500 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01998834@BLISTEXEXC> Don't come the raw prawn with us Fernando. Have you ever BEEN to India? The violence that one sees on TV is magnified way out of proportion to reality. I'd love to live in India for a bit. My sister-in-law is there now and I have many friends, occidental and oriental, who've both visited and lived there. The cultural experience is way beyond what one can find in Oz of USA. I've lived in 5 countries on 4 continents so far and each has its wonders and dangers. "Racial tensions"? - try Redfern or Carnarvon (NW Oz) "Violence"? - how about the good old Aussie bikie shoot-out with bystanders being blown away by shotguns "Witchcraft"? - I'm about 1/2 way through Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. "Political Rubbish"? remember Florida 2000? How about Oz in 1975, Watergate, Whitewater, the partisan bickering in any democratic nation? Give me adventure, good friends, enough to eat and shelter and I'm happy anywhere. :) Blue -----Original Message----- From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa) [mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:02 PM To: 'stewm@canada.com'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > When the United States and Canada, for that matter, let > India citizens work over here fine but it should go > both ways, that's fair. Realistically, would you want to work in India? Are you really that desperate? India is a beautiful country to visit, I have, but to live.... no way. Believe me, we have the best lifestyle here, without all the violence, racial tensions, witchcraft, and political rubbish. Stay home, trust me. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Thu Jul 10 16:29:16 2003 From: ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca (James B. Byrne ) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:29:16 -0400 Subject: How do you use the PH839UDC? Message-ID: <3F0D4E0C.28391.2E436EA7@localhost> I am converting to 839 form 729 and I cannot get the Cognos shipped UDC to work for Quick. No matter what parameters I pass Quick always fails to find a valid dictionary. None of the other elements fail, just Quick. I am convinced that there must be a flaw in the coding of the UDC but it seems an unreasonable amount of work to have to find out what it is. Has anyone else run into this problem and if so how do you fix it? A sample of the problem is given below. :setcatalog ph839udc.ph839c.cognos :reset @ :file phd=pd839c0c.obj839 :quiz Q U I Z (PowerHouse 8.39.C) Copyright 2001 COGNOS INCORPORATED HARTE & LYNE LIMITED > > exit END OF PROGRAM :qtp Q T P (PowerHouse 8.39.C) Copyright 2001 COGNOS INCORPORATED HARTE & LYNE LIMITED > exit END OF PROGRAM :qshow Q S H O W (PowerHouse 8.39.C) Copyright 2001 COGNOS INCORPORATED HARTE & LYNE LIMITED > exit END OF PROGRAM :qdesign Q D E S I G N (PowerHouse 8.39.C) Copyright 2001 COGNOS INCORPORATED HARTE & LYNE LIMITED > exit END OF PROGRAM :qutil Q U T I L (PowerHouse 8.39.C) Copyright 2001 COGNOS INCORPORATED HARTE & LYNE LIMITED > exit END OF PROGRAM :quick No valid data dictionary was specified. END OF PROGRAM : :QUICK AUTO=QKMAINMC.OBJ839 DICT=PH839C0C.OBJ839 No valid data dictionary was specified. END OF PROGRAM Regards, Jim--- e-mail is NOT a secure channel James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From PICKERIJ@norbord.com Thu Jul 10 17:08:20 2003 From: PICKERIJ@norbord.com (Pickering, John (NORBORD)) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 12:08:20 -0400 Subject: How do you use the PH839UDC? Message-ID: <611340310619D711AA4000306E1CC512407058@TORHEXCH> It worked right out of the box for me. I've got a file equate for the dictionary, e.g. :file phd=phd.obj And I've got a file equate for a qkgo file, e.g. :file qkgo=qkgo.obj The qkgo file specifies the dictionary file as simply "phd". It also specifies the first screen and max's a bunch of execution time parameters. Regards, JWP -----Original Message----- From: James B. Byrne [mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:29 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: How do you use the PH839UDC? I am converting to 839 form 729 and I cannot get the Cognos shipped UDC to work for Quick. No matter what parameters I pass Quick always fails to find a valid dictionary. None of the other elements fail, just Quick. I am convinced that there must be a flaw in the coding of the UDC but it seems an unreasonable amount of work to have to find out what it is. Has anyone else run into this problem and if so how do you fix it? A sample of the problem is given below. :setcatalog ph839udc.ph839c.cognos :reset @ :file phd=pd839c0c.obj839 :quick No valid data dictionary was specified. END OF PROGRAM : :QUICK AUTO=QKMAINMC.OBJ839 DICT=PH839C0C.OBJ839 No valid data dictionary was specified. END OF PROGRAM Regards, Jim--- e-mail is NOT a secure channel From ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Thu Jul 10 19:55:10 2003 From: ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca (James B. Byrne ) Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:55:10 -0400 Subject: How do you use the PH839UDC? In-Reply-To: <611340310619D711AA4000306E1CC512407058@TORHEXCH> Message-ID: <3F0D7E4E.15473.2EFFEEEA@localhost> Thanks for the replies. I followed the suggestions and while I could not find anything untoward, the problem has gone and I can no longer reproduce the behaviour. On to the next little bit. Regards, Jim --- e-mail is NOT a secure channel James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Fri Jul 11 00:23:32 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 07:23:32 +0800 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: > Don't come the raw prawn with us Fernando. Have you ever > BEEN to India? Yes I have. That is what I said before. > The violence that one sees on TV is magnified way out of proportion to > reality. Yes I know. But I've seen it for myself when the tour I was with (Intrepid Fox) took us through Deli and we saw a street brawl because a local delicatessen was trying to rip off the locals... or so our guide told us. These thugs overturned a car, burnt it, and started looking at us angrily. I was shit scared. We simply moved on and nothing happened. Of course I know that was an isolated incident and I know that the media, especially Western media love to exaggerate these events to make travel warnings, etc. In fact my wife and I are going to Bali this year, even with Howard's so called terrorist warnings. Personally it's a crock! The Balinese and India for that matter, need tourism and one off incidents have not deterred me to travel. AND for your information, I've been to most of the Pacific (Tahiti, Fiji and Samoa), Vietnam, Thailand, and south America... so yes... I know and do appreciate other cultures.... (I am Chilean myself) but I still think Australia is a great place to live compared to many other places and I would not want to live anywhere else - even in my own country. The lifestyle here is the best. Of course one has to live in another country for a few years to start saying the same thing about that place... and say, 'oh Australia was not that good.... I prefer it here now'.. My point of the post was that I think we don't appreciate what we have here. Anyway enough of this... it's WAYYYY far off topic. From birket@mbfoster.com Fri Jul 11 16:17:50 2003 From: birket@mbfoster.com (Birket Foster) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 11:17:50 -0400 Subject: Using PowerHouse with Eloquence Webinar Message-ID: <001401c347bf$97bc94f0$750309c0@BIRKET2000> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C3479E.1059EEC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Fellow Listserv Members: =20 Cognos and MB Foster invite you to a Webinar on Tuesday, July 29th, 2003 = at 3:00 pm EST to discuss Migrating PowerHouse with an Eloquence = database on HP/UX or Intel. This webinar is a repeat performance, since when we presented this = material last month several members of the list serv asked for another = opportunity to attend or to invite colleagues. The material will be the = same for this webcast as the previous one. 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------=_NextPart_000_0011_01C3479E.1059EEC0-- From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Sun Jul 13 17:33:44 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 11:33:44 -0500 Subject: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C019BC491@BLISTEXEXC> Dear Fernando It seems I completely misunderstood your message and I appologise for any criticism of it on this list. Now that you explain it in different terms I completely agree with you. Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa) [mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au] Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 6:24 PM To: 'Edis, Robert'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: HP3000 Powerhouse Openings in India > Don't come the raw prawn with us Fernando. Have you ever > BEEN to India? Yes I have. That is what I said before. > The violence that one sees on TV is magnified way out of proportion to > reality. Yes I know. But I've seen it for myself when the tour I was with (Intrepid Fox) took us through Deli and we saw a street brawl because a local delicatessen was trying to rip off the locals... or so our guide told us. These thugs overturned a car, burnt it, and started looking at us angrily. I was shit scared. We simply moved on and nothing happened. Of course I know that was an isolated incident and I know that the media, especially Western media love to exaggerate these events to make travel warnings, etc. In fact my wife and I are going to Bali this year, even with Howard's so called terrorist warnings. Personally it's a crock! The Balinese and India for that matter, need tourism and one off incidents have not deterred me to travel. AND for your information, I've been to most of the Pacific (Tahiti, Fiji and Samoa), Vietnam, Thailand, and south America... so yes... I know and do appreciate other cultures.... (I am Chilean myself) but I still think Australia is a great place to live compared to many other places and I would not want to live anywhere else - even in my own country. The lifestyle here is the best. Of course one has to live in another country for a few years to start saying the same thing about that place... and say, 'oh Australia was not that good.... I prefer it here now'.. My point of the post was that I think we don't appreciate what we have here. Anyway enough of this... it's WAYYYY far off topic. From aarnone@grey.com Mon Jul 14 21:17:01 2003 From: aarnone@grey.com (Arnone, Anthony) Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 16:17:01 -0400 Subject: Stripping off CR codes Message-ID: <96D6EF056FAFD71182BC00508BDF9EB4531E8D@xch2s.grey.com> I am creating a file using the disc option in quiz that needs to be uploaded to an SAP system. The problem is that the SAP system is rejecting the file because of the carriage return codes at the end of each line. Is there a way that I can strip these off either in Quiz or with some other tool. I am running ver 8.19 on MPE/iX. Below is the code that I am using: DEF T-DELIM CHA*1 = "|" DEF N-INV-D CHA*8 = ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[7:2] + & ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[5:2] + ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[1:4] DEF N-TOT-AMT CHA*12 = & PACK(ASC(TOT-INV-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(TOT-INV-AMT,12)[11:2]) DEF N-LINE-AMT CHA*12 = & PACK(ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT,12)[11:2]) DEF HFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(HTYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-INV-D) & + T-DELIM + TRU(LEGAL-ENTITY) + T-DELIM + "USD" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM & + "20517562" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INVOICE-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & + TRU(HTEXT) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-TOT-AMT) + T-DELIM & + TRU(PYMT-TYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(TOT-LINE-ITEMS))) DEF DFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(DTYPE) + T-DELIM & + TRU(ASC(LINE-NUMBER)) + T-DELIM + TRU(ACCT-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & + TRU(DTEXT) + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(N-LINE-AMT) + T-DELIM & + "1Z" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INTER-ORD-NUM) & + T-DELIM + TRU(PO-NUMBER) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(PO-LINE-ITEM))) HEA AT INVOICE-NUMBER TAB 1 HFILE REP TAB 1 DFILE SET NOHEAD SET NOFORMFEED SET PAG WID 240 SET PAG LEN 1 SET REP DEV DISC NAME BILLING SET REP LIM 10000 GO R/S Anthony Arnone Programmer/Analyst Grey Global Group (212) 886-7812 aarnone@grey.com From wonicon@optushome.com.au Mon Jul 14 23:11:24 2003 From: wonicon@optushome.com.au (Jeff Hoffman) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:11:24 +1000 Subject: Stripping off CR codes In-Reply-To: <96D6EF056FAFD71182BC00508BDF9EB4531E8D@xch2s.grey.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20030715081124.008ebb10@mail> Hi You could use a subfile. Jeff At 04:17 PM 14-07-03 -0400, you wrote: >I am creating a file using the disc option in quiz that needs to be uploaded >to an SAP system. The problem is that the SAP system is rejecting the file >because of the carriage return codes at the end of each line. Is there a way >that I can strip these off either in Quiz or with some other tool. I am >running ver 8.19 on MPE/iX. Below is the code that I am using: > >DEF T-DELIM CHA*1 = "|" >DEF N-INV-D CHA*8 = ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[7:2] + & > ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[5:2] + ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[1:4] >DEF N-TOT-AMT CHA*12 = & > PACK(ASC(TOT-INV-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(TOT-INV-AMT,12)[11:2]) >DEF N-LINE-AMT CHA*12 = & > PACK(ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT,12)[11:2]) > >DEF HFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(HTYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-INV-D) & > + T-DELIM + TRU(LEGAL-ENTITY) + T-DELIM + "USD" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM & > + "20517562" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INVOICE-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(HTEXT) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-TOT-AMT) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(PYMT-TYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(TOT-LINE-ITEMS))) >DEF DFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(DTYPE) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(ASC(LINE-NUMBER)) + T-DELIM + TRU(ACCT-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(DTEXT) + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(N-LINE-AMT) + T-DELIM & > + "1Z" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INTER-ORD-NUM) & > + T-DELIM + TRU(PO-NUMBER) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(PO-LINE-ITEM))) > >HEA AT INVOICE-NUMBER TAB 1 HFILE >REP TAB 1 DFILE > >SET NOHEAD >SET NOFORMFEED >SET PAG WID 240 >SET PAG LEN 1 >SET REP DEV DISC NAME BILLING >SET REP LIM 10000 >GO > >R/S >Anthony Arnone >Programmer/Analyst >Grey Global Group >(212) 886-7812 >aarnone@grey.com > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ + Jeff Hoffman + e-mail: wonicon@optushome.com.au + + Director + + + WoniCon Pty Ltd (ABN 93 083 502 630)+ ,-_|\ + + 21 Prices Circuit + voice: +61 2 9542 1527 / \ + + Woronora NSW 2232 + \_,-._* + + AUSTRALIA + mobile: 040 790 3929 v + +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- + From narasimhareddy.bontha@digital.com Tue Jul 15 04:29:44 2003 From: narasimhareddy.bontha@digital.com (Bontha, Narasimhareddy) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 08:59:44 +0530 Subject: Stripping off CR codes Message-ID: I don't know anything about MPE/iX. But I had similar such problem on Hp-UNIX. I have converted input data file to data sequential using "dd" command - `block' before passing it to QUIZ or QTP and `unblock' after processing. Or write a C wrapper, which takes care of eliminating carriage return code at the end of each line. Both techniques we have used. Regards Bontha -----Original Message----- From: Arnone, Anthony [mailto:aarnone@grey.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 1:47 AM To: Powerhouse List (E-mail) Subject: Stripping off CR codes I am creating a file using the disc option in quiz that needs to be uploaded to an SAP system. The problem is that the SAP system is rejecting the file because of the carriage return codes at the end of each line. Is there a way that I can strip these off either in Quiz or with some other tool. I am running ver 8.19 on MPE/iX. Below is the code that I am using: DEF T-DELIM CHA*1 = "|" DEF N-INV-D CHA*8 = ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[7:2] + & ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[5:2] + ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[1:4] DEF N-TOT-AMT CHA*12 = & PACK(ASC(TOT-INV-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(TOT-INV-AMT,12)[11:2]) DEF N-LINE-AMT CHA*12 = & PACK(ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT,12)[11:2]) DEF HFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(HTYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-INV-D) & + T-DELIM + TRU(LEGAL-ENTITY) + T-DELIM + "USD" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM & + "20517562" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INVOICE-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & + TRU(HTEXT) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-TOT-AMT) + T-DELIM & + TRU(PYMT-TYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(TOT-LINE-ITEMS))) DEF DFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(DTYPE) + T-DELIM & + TRU(ASC(LINE-NUMBER)) + T-DELIM + TRU(ACCT-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & + TRU(DTEXT) + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(N-LINE-AMT) + T-DELIM & + "1Z" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INTER-ORD-NUM) & + T-DELIM + TRU(PO-NUMBER) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(PO-LINE-ITEM))) HEA AT INVOICE-NUMBER TAB 1 HFILE REP TAB 1 DFILE SET NOHEAD SET NOFORMFEED SET PAG WID 240 SET PAG LEN 1 SET REP DEV DISC NAME BILLING SET REP LIM 10000 GO R/S Anthony Arnone Programmer/Analyst Grey Global Group (212) 886-7812 aarnone@grey.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au Tue Jul 15 07:14:09 2003 From: aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au (Adam Robertson) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:14:09 +1000 Subject: String problem Message-ID: <001b01c34a98$4e5bf680$d1344e81@orange.usyd.edu.au> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C34AEC.20080680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there. I have a QUICK screen with this code: let t_tempcover = getsystemval("PHTEMP") + "/tempcover.txt" let t_str = "echo '^' >> " + t_tempcover . . let t_cmdstr = substitute(t_str, & (" " + trunc(unit_name of unit) + & " - " + unit_code of c_assign_student ) ) run command t_cmdstr All has been running fine, except now some of the string data in 'unit_name of unit' contains brackets ie ( and ) This is causing the screen to crash with this error: syntax error at line 1: `(' unexpected If I remove the brackets from the data, it works fine. Is there any way I can fix this, allowing the brackets to stay in the data. Thanks Adam Robertson Acting Database and Web Administrator University of Sydney, Orange Phone: 02 6360 5967 Fax: 02 6360 5590 mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au ------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C34AEC.20080680 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=20 there.

I have = a QUICK=20 screen with this code:

   =20 let t_tempcover =3D getsystemval("PHTEMP") +=20 "/tempcover.txt"
    let t_str =3D "echo '^' >> = " +=20 t_tempcover
    .

   =20 .

   =20 let t_cmdstr =3D substitute(t_str, &
   =20 ("            " + = trunc(unit_name of unit) + &
     " - " + = unit_code=20 of c_assign_student ) )
    run command=20 t_cmdstr

All = has been running=20 fine, except now some of the string data in 'unit_name of unit' contains = brackets=20 ie    (    and   &= nbsp;)

This is=20 causing the screen to crash with this error:    syntax=20 error at line 1: `(' unexpected

If I remove=20 the brackets from the data, it works fine.

Is there any=20 way I can fix this, allowing the brackets to stay in the=20 data.

Thanks

Adam Robertson
Acting Database and Web Administrator
University of Sydney, Orange
Phone: 02=20 6360 5967   Fax: 02 6360 5590
mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.e= du.au=20

------=_NextPart_000_001C_01C34AEC.20080680-- From shediac92@hotmail.com Tue Jul 15 13:26:56 2003 From: shediac92@hotmail.com (Peter Bateman) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 09:26:56 -0300 Subject: String problem Message-ID: Adam: You can find the '(' and ')' in unit_name with the index function. let t-s = index ( unit_name , '(' ) let t_unit_name = unit_name [2:size(unit_name)] if t-s = 1 & else = unit_name [ 1 : (t-s - 1)] + unit_name[(t-s + 1):( size( unit_name) - t-s)] apply the same logic to t_unit_name to remove ')" alternately you can run a for loop on unit_name removing '(' and ')' for 255 begin if occurrence <= size ( unit_name) & and unit_name [occurrence : 1] <> '(' & and unit_name[occurrence:1] <> ')' then begin let IX = IX + 1 if IX = 1 then let t_unit_name = unit_name [occurrence:1] else let t_unit_name = t_unit_name[1:(IX - 1)] + unit_name [occurrence:1] end Powerhouse unfortunately gives an indexing error if a substring index is out of range. The range is 1 to size of string. I would prefer a null string response. The length can be longer and is a way to pad with blanks. ie Define s char * 20 = rj ( x [1:20]) Regards, Peter Bateman >From: "Adam Robertson" >To: "Powerhouse List $E-mail$" >Subject: String problem >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:14:09 +1000 > >Hi there. > >I have a QUICK screen with this code: > let t_tempcover = getsystemval("PHTEMP") + "/tempcover.txt" > let t_str = "echo '^' >> " + t_tempcover > . > . > let t_cmdstr = substitute(t_str, & > (" " + trunc(unit_name of unit) + & > " - " + unit_code of c_assign_student ) ) > run command t_cmdstr > >All has been running fine, except now some of the string data in 'unit_name >of unit' contains brackets ie ( and ) > >This is causing the screen to crash with this error: syntax error at >line >1: `(' unexpected > >If I remove the brackets from the data, it works fine. > >Is there any way I can fix this, allowing the brackets to stay in the data. >Thanks >Adam Robertson >Acting Database and Web Administrator >University of Sydney, Orange >Phone: 02 6360 5967 Fax: 02 6360 5590 >mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From stewm@canada.com Tue Jul 15 14:49:20 2003 From: stewm@canada.com (stewm@canada.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 06:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Web Services Message-ID: <20030715064920.20787.h001.c009.wm@mail.canada.com.criticalpath.net> Are there any white papers or documentation about Web Services and PowerHouse. Are people using J2EE or .NET-based wrappers for PowerHouse systems to create Web Services. He anyone interfaced PowerHouse applications using XML? I'd like to see more documentation in this area. Mark Stewart Windsor, Ontario 1-519-739-0297 Consultants Club Corp. From aarnone@grey.com Tue Jul 15 17:53:38 2003 From: aarnone@grey.com (Arnone, Anthony) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:53:38 -0400 Subject: FW: Stripping off CR codes Message-ID: <96D6EF056FAFD71182BC00508BDF9EB4531E93@xch2s.grey.com> I tried to create a subfile, and a subfile with format 0 but when I transfered both files and open them in a hexEditor it still contains the CR codes. Does anyone know of a tool outside of Powerhouse that can strip off the CR codes or something in quiz that will suppress the codes. Anthony > -----Original Message----- > From: Arnone, Anthony > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:17 PM > To: Powerhouse List (E-mail) > Subject: Stripping off CR codes > > I am creating a file using the disc option in quiz that needs to be > uploaded to an SAP system. The problem is that the SAP system is rejecting > the file because of the carriage return codes at the end of each line. Is > there a way that I can strip these off either in Quiz or with some other > tool. I am running ver 8.19 on MPE/iX. Below is the code that I am using: > > DEF T-DELIM CHA*1 = "|" > DEF N-INV-D CHA*8 = ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[7:2] + & > ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[5:2] + ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[1:4] > DEF N-TOT-AMT CHA*12 = & > PACK(ASC(TOT-INV-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(TOT-INV-AMT,12)[11:2]) > DEF N-LINE-AMT CHA*12 = & > PACK(ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT,12)[11:2]) > > DEF HFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(HTYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-INV-D) & > + T-DELIM + TRU(LEGAL-ENTITY) + T-DELIM + "USD" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM & > + "20517562" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INVOICE-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(HTEXT) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-TOT-AMT) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(PYMT-TYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(TOT-LINE-ITEMS))) > DEF DFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(DTYPE) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(ASC(LINE-NUMBER)) + T-DELIM + TRU(ACCT-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(DTEXT) + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(N-LINE-AMT) + T-DELIM & > + "1Z" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INTER-ORD-NUM) & > + T-DELIM + TRU(PO-NUMBER) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(PO-LINE-ITEM))) > > HEA AT INVOICE-NUMBER TAB 1 HFILE > REP TAB 1 DFILE > > SET NOHEAD > SET NOFORMFEED > SET PAG WID 240 > SET PAG LEN 1 > SET REP DEV DISC NAME BILLING > SET REP LIM 10000 > GO > > R/S > Anthony Arnone > Programmer/Analyst > Grey Global Group > (212) 886-7812 > aarnone@grey.com > > From ShugartP@trinity-health.org Tue Jul 15 18:21:45 2003 From: ShugartP@trinity-health.org (Pat Shugart) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 13:21:45 -0400 Subject: FW: Stripping off CR codes Message-ID: Anthony, If memory serves, you're running PH on an hp3k, right? If so, try this: tr -d "\015" < infile > outfile from the POSIX shell. Where \015 is the Octal representation of a carriage return. It should delete the CR from the file. This is from memory and I haven't tried it, so you may want to check the MAN page for tr just to be sure I have the syntax right. HTH, ,,,,, ( o o ) =============oOO=======OOo================ Pat Shugart Trinity Information Services 34605 Twelve Mile Road Farmington Hills, MI 48331 248.489.6123 248.488.9195 (fax) >>> "Arnone, Anthony" 07/15/03 12:53PM >>> I tried to create a subfile, and a subfile with format 0 but when I transfered both files and open them in a hexEditor it still contains the CR codes. Does anyone know of a tool outside of Powerhouse that can strip off the CR codes or something in quiz that will suppress the codes. Anthony > -----Original Message----- > From: Arnone, Anthony > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:17 PM > To: Powerhouse List (E-mail) > Subject: Stripping off CR codes > > I am creating a file using the disc option in quiz that needs to be > uploaded to an SAP system. The problem is that the SAP system is rejecting > the file because of the carriage return codes at the end of each line. Is > there a way that I can strip these off either in Quiz or with some other > tool. I am running ver 8.19 on MPE/iX. Below is the code that I am using: > > DEF T-DELIM CHA*1 = "|" > DEF N-INV-D CHA*8 = ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[7:2] + & > ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[5:2] + ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[1:4] > DEF N-TOT-AMT CHA*12 = & > PACK(ASC(TOT-INV-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(TOT-INV-AMT,12)[11:2]) > DEF N-LINE-AMT CHA*12 = & > PACK(ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT,12)[11:2]) > > DEF HFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(HTYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-INV-D) & > + T-DELIM + TRU(LEGAL-ENTITY) + T-DELIM + "USD" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM & > + "20517562" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INVOICE-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(HTEXT) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-TOT-AMT) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(PYMT-TYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(TOT-LINE-ITEMS))) > DEF DFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(DTYPE) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(ASC(LINE-NUMBER)) + T-DELIM + TRU(ACCT-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(DTEXT) + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(N-LINE-AMT) + T-DELIM & > + "1Z" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INTER-ORD-NUM) & > + T-DELIM + TRU(PO-NUMBER) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(PO-LINE-ITEM))) > > HEA AT INVOICE-NUMBER TAB 1 HFILE > REP TAB 1 DFILE > > SET NOHEAD > SET NOFORMFEED > SET PAG WID 240 > SET PAG LEN 1 > SET REP DEV DISC NAME BILLING > SET REP LIM 10000 > GO > > R/S > Anthony Arnone > Programmer/Analyst > Grey Global Group > (212) 886-7812 > aarnone@grey.com > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU Tue Jul 15 19:09:44 2003 From: ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU (Nancy Tietz) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 14:09:44 -0400 Subject: Stripping off CR codes Message-ID: We have had this problem before with funny codes at the end of each line that other vendors have sent us. I've read in the text file in MS Word and used the Find-Replace function. There is a special functions button that allows you to take ^p and change it to manual return ^m. So maybe you need to do the opposite? We've tried UltraEdit (a very good product) but it still showed the CR's when they really weren't there. Not sure if this was helpful or not. Best wishes. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Arnone, Anthony [mailto:aarnone@grey.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:54 PM To: 'Powerhouse List (E-mail)' Subject: FW: Stripping off CR codes I tried to create a subfile, and a subfile with format 0 but when I transfered both files and open them in a hexEditor it still contains the CR codes. Does anyone know of a tool outside of Powerhouse that can strip off the CR codes or something in quiz that will suppress the codes. Anthony > -----Original Message----- > From: Arnone, Anthony > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:17 PM > To: Powerhouse List (E-mail) > Subject: Stripping off CR codes > > I am creating a file using the disc option in quiz that needs to be > uploaded to an SAP system. The problem is that the SAP system is rejecting > the file because of the carriage return codes at the end of each line. Is > there a way that I can strip these off either in Quiz or with some other > tool. I am running ver 8.19 on MPE/iX. Below is the code that I am using: > > DEF T-DELIM CHA*1 = "|" > DEF N-INV-D CHA*8 = ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[7:2] + & > ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[5:2] + ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[1:4] > DEF N-TOT-AMT CHA*12 = & > PACK(ASC(TOT-INV-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(TOT-INV-AMT,12)[11:2]) > DEF N-LINE-AMT CHA*12 = & > PACK(ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT,12)[11:2]) > > DEF HFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(HTYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-INV-D) & > + T-DELIM + TRU(LEGAL-ENTITY) + T-DELIM + "USD" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM & > + "20517562" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INVOICE-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(HTEXT) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-TOT-AMT) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(PYMT-TYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(TOT-LINE-ITEMS))) > DEF DFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(DTYPE) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(ASC(LINE-NUMBER)) + T-DELIM + TRU(ACCT-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(DTEXT) + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(N-LINE-AMT) + T-DELIM & > + "1Z" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INTER-ORD-NUM) & > + T-DELIM + TRU(PO-NUMBER) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(PO-LINE-ITEM))) > > HEA AT INVOICE-NUMBER TAB 1 HFILE > REP TAB 1 DFILE > > SET NOHEAD > SET NOFORMFEED > SET PAG WID 240 > SET PAG LEN 1 > SET REP DEV DISC NAME BILLING > SET REP LIM 10000 > GO > > R/S > Anthony Arnone > Programmer/Analyst > Grey Global Group > (212) 886-7812 > aarnone@grey.com > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From terrycurran@onetel.net.uk Tue Jul 15 20:05:35 2003 From: terrycurran@onetel.net.uk (Terry Curran) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 20:05:35 +0100 Subject: Stripping off CR codes In-Reply-To: <96D6EF056FAFD71182BC00508BDF9EB4531E93@xch2s.grey.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C34B0C.77BE8050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You could use awk as follows awk 'printf "%s",$1}' infile > outfile ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- This email is brought to you courtesy of 1 & 1, for more details please visit the link below http://oneandone.co.uk/xml/init?k_id=5753616 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------- -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Arnone, Anthony Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 5:54 PM To: 'Powerhouse List (E-mail)' Subject: FW: Stripping off CR codes I tried to create a subfile, and a subfile with format 0 but when I transfered both files and open them in a hexEditor it still contains the CR codes. Does anyone know of a tool outside of Powerhouse that can strip off the CR codes or something in quiz that will suppress the codes. Anthony > -----Original Message----- > From: Arnone, Anthony > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:17 PM > To: Powerhouse List (E-mail) > Subject: Stripping off CR codes > > I am creating a file using the disc option in quiz that needs to be > uploaded to an SAP system. The problem is that the SAP system is > rejecting the file because of the carriage return codes at the end of > each line. Is there a way that I can strip these off either in Quiz or > with some other tool. I am running ver 8.19 on MPE/iX. Below is the > code that I am using: > > DEF T-DELIM CHA*1 = "|" > DEF N-INV-D CHA*8 = ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[7:2] + & > ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[5:2] + ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[1:4] > DEF N-TOT-AMT CHA*12 = & > PACK(ASC(TOT-INV-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(TOT-INV-AMT,12)[11:2]) DEF > N-LINE-AMT CHA*12 = & > PACK(ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT,12)[11:2]) > > DEF HFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(HTYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-INV-D) & > + T-DELIM + TRU(LEGAL-ENTITY) + T-DELIM + "USD" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM & > + "20517562" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INVOICE-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(HTEXT) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-TOT-AMT) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(PYMT-TYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(TOT-LINE-ITEMS))) > DEF DFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(DTYPE) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(ASC(LINE-NUMBER)) + T-DELIM + TRU(ACCT-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > + TRU(DTEXT) + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(N-LINE-AMT) + T-DELIM & > + "1Z" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INTER-ORD-NUM) & > + T-DELIM + TRU(PO-NUMBER) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(PO-LINE-ITEM))) > > HEA AT INVOICE-NUMBER TAB 1 HFILE > REP TAB 1 DFILE > > SET NOHEAD > SET NOFORMFEED > SET PAG WID 240 > SET PAG LEN 1 > SET REP DEV DISC NAME BILLING > SET REP LIM 10000 > GO > > R/S > Anthony Arnone > Programmer/Analyst > Grey Global Group > (212) 886-7812 > aarnone@grey.com > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C34B0C.77BE8050 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Terence Phillip Curran (terry.curran@towermarsh.co.uk).vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Terence Phillip Curran (terry.curran@towermarsh.co.uk).vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Curran;Terence;Phillip FN:Terence Phillip Curran (terry.curran@towermarsh.co.uk) ORG:TowerMarsh Ltd TITLE:Managing Director TEL;WORK;VOICE:+44 (2392) 503893 TEL;HOME;VOICE:+44 (2392) 503893 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+44 (7720) 562048 ADR;WORK:;;130 Parham Road;Gosport;Hants;PO12 4UE;United Kingdom LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=3DQUOTED-PRINTABLE:130 Parham Road=3D0D=3D0AGosport, = Hants PO12 4UE=3D0D=3D0AUnited Kingdom URL;WORK:http://www.towermarsh.co.uk EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:terry.curran@towermarsh.co.uk REV:20030301T095201Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01C34B0C.77BE8050-- From shediac92@hotmail.com Tue Jul 15 20:41:58 2003 From: shediac92@hotmail.com (Peter Bateman) Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:41:58 -0300 Subject: FW: Stripping off CR codes Message-ID: hi: I would hex dump the file with FCOPY. I don't think Quiz in general tags the output lines on MPE/iX with a carriage return. Slave printing and perhaps writing to the terminal might generate a carriage return. I think maybe you should look at how you are getting the data to SAP. Perhaps a binary FTP transfer instead of ascii. Regards, Peter Bateman >From: "Arnone, Anthony" >To: "'Powerhouse List (E-mail)'" >Subject: FW: Stripping off CR codes >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:53:38 -0400 > >I tried to create a subfile, and a subfile with format 0 but when I >transfered both files and open them in a hexEditor it still contains the CR >codes. Does anyone know of a tool outside of Powerhouse that can strip off >the CR codes or something in quiz that will suppress the codes. > >Anthony > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Arnone, Anthony > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:17 PM > > To: Powerhouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: Stripping off CR codes > > > > I am creating a file using the disc option in quiz that needs to be > > uploaded to an SAP system. The problem is that the SAP system is >rejecting > > the file because of the carriage return codes at the end of each line. >Is > > there a way that I can strip these off either in Quiz or with some other > > tool. I am running ver 8.19 on MPE/iX. Below is the code that I am >using: > > > > DEF T-DELIM CHA*1 = "|" > > DEF N-INV-D CHA*8 = ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[7:2] + & > > ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[5:2] + ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[1:4] > > DEF N-TOT-AMT CHA*12 = & > > PACK(ASC(TOT-INV-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(TOT-INV-AMT,12)[11:2]) > > DEF N-LINE-AMT CHA*12 = & > > PACK(ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT,12)[11:2]) > > > > DEF HFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(HTYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-INV-D) & > > + T-DELIM + TRU(LEGAL-ENTITY) + T-DELIM + "USD" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM & > > + "20517562" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INVOICE-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > > + TRU(HTEXT) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-TOT-AMT) + T-DELIM & > > + TRU(PYMT-TYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(TOT-LINE-ITEMS))) > > DEF DFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(DTYPE) + T-DELIM & > > + TRU(ASC(LINE-NUMBER)) + T-DELIM + TRU(ACCT-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > > + TRU(DTEXT) + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(N-LINE-AMT) + T-DELIM & > > + "1Z" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INTER-ORD-NUM) & > > + T-DELIM + TRU(PO-NUMBER) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(PO-LINE-ITEM))) > > > > HEA AT INVOICE-NUMBER TAB 1 HFILE > > REP TAB 1 DFILE > > > > SET NOHEAD > > SET NOFORMFEED > > SET PAG WID 240 > > SET PAG LEN 1 > > SET REP DEV DISC NAME BILLING > > SET REP LIM 10000 > > GO > > > > R/S > > Anthony Arnone > > Programmer/Analyst > > Grey Global Group > > (212) 886-7812 > > aarnone@grey.com > > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to >powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From wonicon@optushome.com.au Tue Jul 15 23:31:14 2003 From: wonicon@optushome.com.au (Jeff Hoffman) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 08:31:14 +1000 Subject: FW: Stripping off CR codes In-Reply-To: <96D6EF056FAFD71182BC00508BDF9EB4531E93@xch2s.grey.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20030716083114.008ed7e0@mail> Anthony How are you transferring the file, if using ftp did you transfer it in binary mode, if reflections were there any translation characters set? Jeff At 12:53 PM 15-07-03 -0400, you wrote: >I tried to create a subfile, and a subfile with format 0 but when I >transfered both files and open them in a hexEditor it still contains the CR >codes. Does anyone know of a tool outside of Powerhouse that can strip off >the CR codes or something in quiz that will suppress the codes. > >Anthony > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Arnone, Anthony >> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:17 PM >> To: Powerhouse List (E-mail) >> Subject: Stripping off CR codes >> >> I am creating a file using the disc option in quiz that needs to be >> uploaded to an SAP system. The problem is that the SAP system is rejecting >> the file because of the carriage return codes at the end of each line. Is >> there a way that I can strip these off either in Quiz or with some other >> tool. I am running ver 8.19 on MPE/iX. Below is the code that I am using: >> >> DEF T-DELIM CHA*1 = "|" >> DEF N-INV-D CHA*8 = ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[7:2] + & >> ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[5:2] + ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[1:4] >> DEF N-TOT-AMT CHA*12 = & >> PACK(ASC(TOT-INV-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(TOT-INV-AMT,12)[11:2]) >> DEF N-LINE-AMT CHA*12 = & >> PACK(ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT,12)[11:2]) >> >> DEF HFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(HTYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-INV-D) & >> + T-DELIM + TRU(LEGAL-ENTITY) + T-DELIM + "USD" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM & >> + "20517562" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INVOICE-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & >> + TRU(HTEXT) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-TOT-AMT) + T-DELIM & >> + TRU(PYMT-TYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(TOT-LINE-ITEMS))) >> DEF DFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(DTYPE) + T-DELIM & >> + TRU(ASC(LINE-NUMBER)) + T-DELIM + TRU(ACCT-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & >> + TRU(DTEXT) + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(N-LINE-AMT) + T-DELIM & >> + "1Z" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INTER-ORD-NUM) & >> + T-DELIM + TRU(PO-NUMBER) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(PO-LINE-ITEM))) >> >> HEA AT INVOICE-NUMBER TAB 1 HFILE >> REP TAB 1 DFILE >> >> SET NOHEAD >> SET NOFORMFEED >> SET PAG WID 240 >> SET PAG LEN 1 >> SET REP DEV DISC NAME BILLING >> SET REP LIM 10000 >> GO >> >> R/S >> Anthony Arnone >> Programmer/Analyst >> Grey Global Group >> (212) 886-7812 >> aarnone@grey.com >> >> >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > From Glenn@baxterit.com.au Wed Jul 16 01:37:33 2003 From: Glenn@baxterit.com.au (Glenn Baxter) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:37:33 +1000 Subject: FW: Stripping off CR codes Message-ID: <99CD2C1AB919D4119B15009027E0142A099709@BITSERVER> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C34B32.724E2DC0 Content-Type: text/plain Hi, The CR are a function of the file systems requirement to create records, normally associated with an ascii transfer. I have attached below the results of a binary transfer {reflection} of a portable subfile. You will see that each "record" is not delimited by a CR as per normal ascii, but by size {of the component fields}. In this case ID_Store @ 4 and Store_Name @ 30. Quiz will generate fixed length records by default to page width when reporting or of element sizes to a subfile. The binary transfer simplly transfers what it sees as data not creating records at the remote end. The Binary Ftp transfer suggestion would also work I guess. The portable aspect of the subfile removes the requirement to "set page width" as you would need to when reporting. The key is really the binary transfer! Good luck. 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Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the official business of Baxter IT Solutions are neither given nor endorsed by it. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Bateman [mailto:shediac92@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 16 July 2003 5:42 am To: aarnone@grey.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Re: FW: Stripping off CR codes hi: I would hex dump the file with FCOPY. I don't think Quiz in general tags the output lines on MPE/iX with a carriage return. Slave printing and perhaps writing to the terminal might generate a carriage return. I think maybe you should look at how you are getting the data to SAP. Perhaps a binary FTP transfer instead of ascii. Regards, Peter Bateman >From: "Arnone, Anthony" >To: "'Powerhouse List (E-mail)'" >Subject: FW: Stripping off CR codes >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 12:53:38 -0400 > >I tried to create a subfile, and a subfile with format 0 but when I >transfered both files and open them in a hexEditor it still contains >the CR codes. Does anyone know of a tool outside of Powerhouse that can >strip off the CR codes or something in quiz that will suppress the >codes. > >Anthony > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Arnone, Anthony > > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 4:17 PM > > To: Powerhouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: Stripping off CR codes > > > > I am creating a file using the disc option in quiz that needs to be > > uploaded to an SAP system. The problem is that the SAP system is >rejecting > > the file because of the carriage return codes at the end of each > > line. >Is > > there a way that I can strip these off either in Quiz or with some > > other tool. I am running ver 8.19 on MPE/iX. Below is the code that > > I am >using: > > > > DEF T-DELIM CHA*1 = "|" > > DEF N-INV-D CHA*8 = ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[7:2] + & > > ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[5:2] + ASC(INVOICE-DATE,8)[1:4] > > DEF N-TOT-AMT CHA*12 = & > > PACK(ASC(TOT-INV-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(TOT-INV-AMT,12)[11:2]) DEF > > N-LINE-AMT CHA*12 = & > > PACK(ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT/100) + "." + ASC(LINE-ITEM-AMT,12)[11:2]) > > > > DEF HFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(HTYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-INV-D) & > > + T-DELIM + TRU(LEGAL-ENTITY) + T-DELIM + "USD" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM & > > + "20517562" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INVOICE-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > > + TRU(HTEXT) + T-DELIM + TRU(N-TOT-AMT) + T-DELIM & > > + TRU(PYMT-TYPE) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(TOT-LINE-ITEMS))) > > DEF DFILE CHA*132 = PACK(TRU(DTYPE) + T-DELIM & > > + TRU(ASC(LINE-NUMBER)) + T-DELIM + TRU(ACCT-NUMBER) + T-DELIM & > > + TRU(DTEXT) + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(N-LINE-AMT) + T-DELIM & > > + "1Z" + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + T-DELIM + TRU(INTER-ORD-NUM) & > > + T-DELIM + TRU(PO-NUMBER) + T-DELIM + TRU(ASC(PO-LINE-ITEM))) > > > > HEA AT INVOICE-NUMBER TAB 1 HFILE > > REP TAB 1 DFILE > > > > SET NOHEAD > > SET NOFORMFEED > > SET PAG WID 240 > > SET PAG LEN 1 > > SET REP DEV DISC NAME BILLING > > SET REP LIM 10000 > > GO > > > > R/S > > Anthony Arnone > > Programmer/Analyst > > Grey Global Group > > (212) 886-7812 > > aarnone@grey.com > > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: >powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to >powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to >powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C34B32.724E2DC0 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="Glenn Baxter.vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Glenn Baxter.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:Baxter;Glenn FN:Glenn Baxter TEL;WORK;VOICE:+61 (3) 9499 8687 TEL;HOME;VOICE:+61 (3) 9499 8344 TEL;CELL;VOICE:+61 0412 826 503 TEL;WORK;FAX:+61 (3) 9499 8344 ADR;WORK:;;15 Flora Grove;Ivanhoe;Victoria;3079;Australia LABEL;WORK;ENCODING=QUOTED-PRINTABLE:15 Flora Grove=0D=0AIvanhoe, Victoria 3079=0D=0AAustralia URL: URL:http://www.baxterit.com.au EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:glenn@baxterit.com.au REV:20020925T232333Z END:VCARD ------_=_NextPart_000_01C34B32.724E2DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ssfpq.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ssfpq.txt" 450 Mildura 830 Bathurst 840 = Taringa 850 Virginia 860 = Burleigh 870 Runaway Bay 880 St. = Marys 890 Dubbo 900 Erina = 910 Griffith 920 Parramatta = 930 Fyshwick 200 Frankston = 430 Geelong 210 Glen Waverley = 220 Greensborough 940 Elizabeth = 230 Highpoint City 600 Hoppers Crossing = 250 Keysborough 950 Aspley: To Virginia, Jan 1999 = 620 Malvern 290 Melbourne 420 = Mentone 300 Mornington 951 = Bundaberg 330 Preston 640 = Ringwood 390 Springvale 480 = Sunbury 370 Sunshine 952 = Caboolture 110 Ballarat 670 = Queanbeyan 680 Belconnen 690 = Phillip 700 Tuggeranong 490 = Warrnambool 240 Horsham 120 = Bendigo 953 Cairns 460 = Echuca 380 Swan Hill 360 = Shepparton 350 Seymour 440 = Albury 954 Gladstone 340 = Sale 310 Traralgon 570 = Bairnsdale 400 Warragul 410 = Wonthaggi 280 Leongatha 470 = Launceston 650 Auburn 520 = Chatswood 610 Hobart 540 = Mona Vale 630 Deniliquin 999 = Joined with No Home Store 270 Korumburra 955 = Gympie 550 Seven Hills 956 = Hervey Bay 530 Emerton 510 = Avalon 971 Capalaba 130 = Bentleigh (Moved to 988) 140 Chadstone 590 = Cranbourne 500 Croydon 160 = Dandenong 150 Doncaster 170 = East Doncaster 660 Eltham 580 = Fawkner 190 Forest Hill 320 = Northland 958 Ipswich 560 = Wagga Wagga 100 Altona 710 = Melton 720 Bankstown 730 = Hurstville 740 Devonport 959 = McKay 760 Minto 960 = Maryborough 260 Knox City 780 = Maroochydore 790 Bundall 800 = Logan City 810 Ferntree Gully 820 = Green Valley 770 Mt. 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Thanks From aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au Wed Jul 16 03:01:18 2003 From: aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au (Adam Robertson) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:01:18 +1000 Subject: String problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001b01c34b3e$25f64d20$d1344e81@orange.usyd.edu.au> Thanks, that helped me solve it. Adam Robertson Acting Database and Web Administrator University of Sydney, Orange Phone: 02 6360 5967 Fax: 02 6360 5590 mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Peter Bateman Sent: Tuesday, 15 July 2003 22:27 To: aroberts@oac.usyd.edu.au; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Re: String problem Adam: You can find the '(' and ')' in unit_name with the index function. let t-s = index ( unit_name , '(' ) let t_unit_name = unit_name [2:size(unit_name)] if t-s = 1 & else = unit_name [ 1 : (t-s - 1)] + unit_name[(t-s + 1):( size( unit_name) - t-s)] apply the same logic to t_unit_name to remove ')" alternately you can run a for loop on unit_name removing '(' and ')' for 255 begin if occurrence <= size ( unit_name) & and unit_name [occurrence : 1] <> '(' & and unit_name[occurrence:1] <> ')' then begin let IX = IX + 1 if IX = 1 then let t_unit_name = unit_name [occurrence:1] else let t_unit_name = t_unit_name[1:(IX - 1)] + unit_name [occurrence:1] end Powerhouse unfortunately gives an indexing error if a substring index is out of range. The range is 1 to size of string. I would prefer a null string response. The length can be longer and is a way to pad with blanks. ie Define s char * 20 = rj ( x [1:20]) Regards, Peter Bateman >From: "Adam Robertson" >To: "Powerhouse List $E-mail$" >Subject: String problem >Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 16:14:09 +1000 > >Hi there. > >I have a QUICK screen with this code: > let t_tempcover = getsystemval("PHTEMP") + "/tempcover.txt" > let t_str = "echo '^' >> " + t_tempcover > . > . > let t_cmdstr = substitute(t_str, & > (" " + trunc(unit_name of unit) + & > " - " + unit_code of c_assign_student ) ) > run command t_cmdstr > >All has been running fine, except now some of the string data in 'unit_name >of unit' contains brackets ie ( and ) > >This is causing the screen to crash with this error: syntax error at >line >1: `(' unexpected > >If I remove the brackets from the data, it works fine. > >Is there any way I can fix this, allowing the brackets to stay in the data. >Thanks >Adam Robertson >Acting Database and Web Administrator >University of Sydney, Orange >Phone: 02 6360 5967 Fax: 02 6360 5590 >mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au > _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From brett@kinetix.co.nz Wed Jul 16 03:14:31 2003 From: brett@kinetix.co.nz (Brett Greiner) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 14:14:31 +1200 Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002d01c34b3f$fe9ed1f0$d501a8c0@jadeserver> Try; SET REPORT DEVICE DISC SET REPORT NAME AMCOR_XML.XML That should work. Brett Kinetix New Plymouth New Zealand. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa) Sent: 16 July 2003 1:01 PM To: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu' Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename It's been a while since I've played with QUIZ, but I am trying to save a report (an XML file in fact). I've tried this and it does not work ... define D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME cha*20 = "AMCOR_XML.XML" set rep device disc name D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME or set rep device disc name AMCOR_XML.XML I get a syntax error because of the full stop. Any ideas? I want to save the file name with the XML extension. Thanks = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14-Jul-03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14-Jul-03 From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Wed Jul 16 03:27:51 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:27:51 +0800 Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename Message-ID: Yep it does. Thanks > -----Original Message----- > From: Brett Greiner [mailto:brett@kinetix.co.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:15 PM > To: 'Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)'; powerh-l@cube.swau.edu > Subject: RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename > > > Try; > SET REPORT DEVICE DISC > SET REPORT NAME AMCOR_XML.XML > > That should work. > > Brett > Kinetix > New Plymouth > New Zealand. > From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Wed Jul 16 03:30:17 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:30:17 +0800 Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename Message-ID: Not it did not work. Sorry... I meant it worked with a predefined logical name, from the VAX. PH does not like the full stop in the name. > -----Original Message----- > From: Brett Greiner [mailto:brett@kinetix.co.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 12:15 PM > To: 'Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)'; powerh-l@cube.swau.edu > Subject: RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename > > > Try; > SET REPORT DEVICE DISC > SET REPORT NAME AMCOR_XML.XML > > That should work. > > Brett > Kinetix > New Plymouth > New Zealand. > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Olmos, Fernando > (Sericon at Alcoa) > Sent: 16 July 2003 1:01 PM > To: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu' > Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename > > > It's been a while since I've played with QUIZ, but I am > trying to save a > report (an XML file in fact). > > I've tried this and it does not work ... > > define D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME cha*20 = "AMCOR_XML.XML" > set rep device disc name D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME > > or > > set rep device disc name AMCOR_XML.XML > > I get a syntax error because of the full stop. > > Any ideas? I want to save the file name with the XML extension. Thanks > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14-Jul-03 > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 14-Jul-03 > > From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Wed Jul 16 03:37:56 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:37:56 +0800 Subject: What is that? (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename) Message-ID: A bigger problem, I think, is when the XML file is transferred over to my C drive. I send it over via Reflection's File Transfer command (ASCII), and it places a END OF FILE character at the very end of the file!! Internet Explorer does not ignore this character, so it cannot process the XML file properly. The character in question is '1A' or 26 decimal. I assume that's the EOF char. How do I remove it, programmatically? Thanks From Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM Wed Jul 16 15:03:19 2003 From: Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM (Hamilton, Allison) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 10:03:19 -0400 Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34BA3.02D9DA90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" What version are you running? This should work in the 8.xx versions. In 7.10 I need to define the file name externally to QUIZ using a logical, then use the logical name (no extension) in the set rep command. That would probably work on other platforms using environment variables. -----Original Message----- From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa) [mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:01 PM To: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu' Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename It's been a while since I've played with QUIZ, but I am trying to save a report (an XML file in fact). I've tried this and it does not work ... define D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME cha*20 = "AMCOR_XML.XML" set rep device disc name D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME or set rep device disc name AMCOR_XML.XML I get a syntax error because of the full stop. Any ideas? I want to save the file name with the XML extension. 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What version are you running? This should work = in the 8.xx versions. In 7.10 I need to define the file name = externally to QUIZ using a logical, then use the logical name (no = extension) in the set rep command. That would probably work on = other platforms using environment variables.

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Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename

It's been a while since I've played with QUIZ, but I = am trying to save a
report (an XML file in fact).

I've tried this and it does not work ...

define D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME cha*20 =3D = "AMCOR_XML.XML"
set rep device disc name D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME

or

set rep device disc name AMCOR_XML.XML

I get a syntax error because of the full stop.

Any ideas? I want to save the file name with the XML = extension. Thanks
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C34BA3.02D9DA90-- From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Thu Jul 17 00:22:09 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 07:22:09 +0800 Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34BF1.14732D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We're using version 7.10G1 -----Original Message----- From: Hamilton, Allison [mailto:Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:03 AM To: 'Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)'; 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu' Subject: RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename What version are you running? This should work in the 8.xx versions. In 7.10 I need to define the file name externally to QUIZ using a logical, then use the logical name (no extension) in the set rep command. That would probably work on other platforms using environment variables. -----Original Message----- From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa) [ mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au ] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:01 PM To: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu' Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename It's been a while since I've played with QUIZ, but I am trying to save a report (an XML file in fact). I've tried this and it does not work ... define D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME cha*20 = "AMCOR_XML.XML" set rep device disc name D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME or set rep device disc name AMCOR_XML.XML I get a syntax error because of the full stop. Any ideas? I want to save the file name with the XML extension. Thanks = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34BF1.14732D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename
We're using version 7.10G1

-----Original Message-----
From: Hamilton, Allison [mailto:Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:03 AM
To: 'Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)'; 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu'
Subject: RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename

What version are you running? This should work in the 8.xx versions. In 7.10 I need to define the file name externally to QUIZ using a logical, then use the logical name (no extension) in the set rep command. That would probably work on other platforms using environment variables.

-----Original Message-----
From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)
[mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 9:01 PM
To: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu'
Subject: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename

It's been a while since I've played with QUIZ, but I am trying to save a
report (an XML file in fact).

I've tried this and it does not work ...

define D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME cha*20 = "AMCOR_XML.XML"
set rep device disc name D_AMCOR_XML_FILENAME

or

set rep device disc name AMCOR_XML.XML

I get a syntax error because of the full stop.

Any ideas? I want to save the file name with the XML extension. Thanks
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C34BF1.14732D80-- From rmarcinik@juno.com Thu Jul 17 02:41:46 2003 From: rmarcinik@juno.com (rmarcinik@juno.com) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:41:46 -0400 Subject: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Message-ID: <20030716.214219.1780.3.rmarcinik@juno.com> Where do I look in the PH documentation for limits such as number of files per screen, etc.? I have looked & looked through our manuals and indices, but the limits are still hidden to me. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From dennis@dhassell.com Thu Jul 17 04:30:47 2003 From: dennis@dhassell.com (Dennis Hassell) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 23:30:47 -0400 Subject: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: IIRC it was limited to 32 back in the 5.x days, but moved up to 254 or so (I think they reserve a couple for internal use) in 6.x or 7.x. Anybody know for sure? Dennis Hassell Dennis Hassell and Associates (941) 746-4919 (941) 224-3981 - cell -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of rmarcinik@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 9:42 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Where do I look in the PH documentation for limits such as number of files per screen, etc.? 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From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Thu Jul 17 09:58:11 2003 From: chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk (Chris Sharman) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 09:58:11 +0100 Subject: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. In-Reply-To: <200307170434168449024@equus.ccagroup.co.uk> References: <200307170434168449024@equus.ccagroup.co.uk> Message-ID: <3F166523.7040102@ccagroup.co.uk> dennis@dhassell.com wrote: > IIRC it was limited to 32 back in the 5.x days, but moved up to 254 or > so (I think they reserve a couple for internal use) in 6.x or 7.x. > Anybody know for sure? 31 files/records, 1023 items. So it says in my 710 (VMS) Qdesign manual, in the section on the file statement, at the end of "Retrieval Assumptions for delete record structures", before the examples. It's unchanged in the 830C PDF. It's cache & occurs that's 255. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. 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Regards Mikael Olesen -----Original Message----- From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] Sent: 17 July 2003 09:58 To: dennis@dhassell.com Cc: rmarcinik@juno.com; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Re: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. dennis@dhassell.com wrote: > IIRC it was limited to 32 back in the 5.x days, but moved up to 254 or > so (I think they reserve a couple for internal use) in 6.x or 7.x. > Anybody know for sure? 31 files/records, 1023 items. So it says in my 710 (VMS) Qdesign manual, in the section on the file statement, at the end of "Retrieval Assumptions for delete record structures", before the examples. It's unchanged in the 830C PDF. It's cache & occurs that's 255. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. 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On page 111 of the QDESIGN Reference book (PowerHouse = Books CD 3rd Edition), it tells you that there's a maximum of 31 file = per screen and 1023 items per record-structure.

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If you look at FIELD, the limit if 255 fields per = screen is near the beginning of the section. Individual limits are = usually with the option. For example there are 10 lookups allowed per = field.

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Where do I look in the PH documentation for limits = such as number of
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I have looked & looked through our manuals and = indices, but the limits
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C5F.E7BEC870-- From rmarcinik@juno.com Thu Jul 17 13:33:08 2003 From: rmarcinik@juno.com (Roger Marcinik) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:33:08 GMT Subject: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Message-ID: <20030717.054130.559.443747@webmail05.lax.untd.com> Thanks, Chris. I found it after you pointed to it. I would never have thought to look there. I thought maybe there was a spec page somewhere where all the limits could be summarized for each (QUICK, QUIZ, QTP). Roger ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From rmarcinik@juno.com Thu Jul 17 16:22:59 2003 From: rmarcinik@juno.com (Roger Marcinik) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:22:59 GMT Subject: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Message-ID: <20030717.082319.11427.233073@webmail07.lax.untd.com> Is it just me or is everyone receiving double messages? ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! From dennis@dhassell.com Thu Jul 17 16:49:30 2003 From: dennis@dhassell.com (Dennis Hassell) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 11:49:30 -0400 Subject: Double E-Mails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yes, I am, but I have been changing my e-mail lately and I thought it was just me. Dennis Hassell Dennis Hassell and Associates (941) 746-4919 (941) 224-3981 - cell -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Marcinik Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Is it just me or is everyone receiving double messages? ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM Thu Jul 17 17:05:20 2003 From: Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM (Whittall, Conrad) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 12:05:20 -0400 Subject: Double E-Mails Message-ID: <9BB2C83BBB6AD7119554000802FF51B8438FF2@sottexch3.cognos.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C7D.390815C0 Content-Type: text/plain I don't seem to be having the problem...just one copy of each message. Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Hassell [mailto:dennis@dhassell.com] Sent: 17 July 2003 11:50 To: 'Roger Marcinik'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Double E-Mails Yes, I am, but I have been changing my e-mail lately and I thought it was just me. Dennis Hassell Dennis Hassell and Associates (941) 746-4919 (941) 224-3981 - cell -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Marcinik Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Is it just me or is everyone receiving double messages? Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C7D.390815C0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Double E-Mails

I don't seem to be having the problem...just one copy = of each message.

Best regards,
Conrad

Conrad Whittall
Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, = Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Hassell [mailto:dennis@dhassell.com]
Sent: 17 July 2003 11:50
To: 'Roger Marcinik'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Double E-Mails

Yes, I am, but I have been changing my e-mail lately = and I thought it
was just me.

Dennis Hassell
Dennis Hassell and Associates
(941) 746-4919
(941) 224-3981 - cell

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.= swau.edu]
On Behalf Of Roger Marcinik
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:23 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: How many files per QUICK screen, = etc.

Is it just me or is everyone receiving double = messages?

Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year = Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in = over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and = IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit = http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more = details.

This message may contain privileged and/or = confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in = error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, = disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it = immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail = that you have done so. Thank you.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C7D.390815C0-- From bcomeau@crossley.ca Thu Jul 17 17:18:52 2003 From: bcomeau@crossley.ca (Bob Comeau) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:18:52 -0300 Subject: Double E-Mails In-Reply-To: <9BB2C83BBB6AD7119554000802FF51B8438FF2@sottexch3.cognos.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C34C65.F7B2BD80 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Double E-MailsI have had this problem from time to time. When it does occur it is not all messages, just some peculiar subset. No rhyme nor reason. I have changed nothing about my email for years. Bob Comeau Sr. Systems Programmer Analyst Crossley Carpet Mills Ltd. (902)895-5491 ex 139 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Whittall, Conrad Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:05 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Cc: 'dennis@dhassell.com'; 'Roger Marcinik' Subject: RE: Double E-Mails I don't seem to be having the problem...just one copy of each message. Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Hassell [mailto:dennis@dhassell.com] Sent: 17 July 2003 11:50 To: 'Roger Marcinik'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Double E-Mails Yes, I am, but I have been changing my e-mail lately and I thought it was just me. Dennis Hassell Dennis Hassell and Associates (941) 746-4919 (941) 224-3981 - cell -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Marcinik Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Is it just me or is everyone receiving double messages? Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C34C65.F7B2BD80 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Double E-Mails
I have had this problem from time to time.

When it does occur it is not all messages, just some peculiar=20 subset.

No rhyme nor reason. I have changed nothing about my = email for=20 years.

Bob Comeau
Sr. Systems Programmer = Analyst
Crossley Carpet=20 Mills Ltd.
(902)895-5491 ex 139

-----Original Message-----
From: = powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu=20 [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Whittall,=20 Conrad
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:05 PM
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Cc: 'dennis@dhassell.com'; 'Roger=20 Marcinik'
Subject: RE: Double = E-Mails

I don't seem to be having the problem...just one = copy of each=20 message.

Best regards,
Conrad

Conrad Whittall
Solutions = Architect,=20 Global Customer Services
Cognos = Incorporated, 3755=20 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 Dennis Hassell [mailto:dennis@dhassell.com]=20
Sent: 17 July 2003 11:50
To: 'Roger=20 Marcinik'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: = RE: Double=20 E-Mails

Yes, I am, but I have been changing my e-mail lately = and I=20 thought it
was just me.

Dennis Hassell
Dennis = Hassell and=20 Associates
(941) 746-4919
(941) 224-3981 - cell

-----Original Message-----
From:=20 powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.s= wau.edu]=20
On Behalf Of Roger Marcinik
Sent:=20 Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:23 AM
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: How = many files=20 per QUICK screen, etc.

Is it just me or is everyone receiving double = messages?=20

Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year = Enterprise=20 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 = cities=20 around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to = learn=20 about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more = details.=20

This message may contain privileged and/or = confidential=20 information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are = not the=20 intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute = it; do=20 not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and = notify=20 the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank=20 you.
------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C34C65.F7B2BD80-- From Daniel.Miller@nightfreight.co.uk Thu Jul 17 17:43:55 2003 From: Daniel.Miller@nightfreight.co.uk (Miller, Daniel) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:43:55 +0100 Subject: Ph on itanium Message-ID: <5E8A0E4920B0D411B1E900508BFCB24002E20DC8@nf-house-nt1.nightfreight-ltd.co.uk> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C82.9CEAB8D6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Can anyone at Cognos tell me whether any decisions have been made about itanium? Given that an evaluation version of VMS (v8.0) running on itanium is now shipping? Ive been following COMP.OS.VMS and the situation looks quite favorable for itanium (imho). rgds, Daniel Miller Nightfreight ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C82.9CEAB8D6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ph on itanium
Hi,

Can anyone at Cognos tell me whether = any decisions have been made about itanium? Given that an = evaluation version of VMS (v8.0) running on itanium is now = shipping?

Ive been following COMP.OS.VMS and the = situation looks quite favorable for itanium (imho).

rgds,
Daniel Miller
Nightfreight
------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C82.9CEAB8D6-- From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Thu Jul 17 18:01:52 2003 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 13:01:52 -0400 Subject: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C85.1EDBD2B0 Content-Type: text/plain You probably received mine twice because I did a reply all and didn't delete your address. Some mail servers remove duplicates (ours does) and some don't. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Roger Marcinik [mailto:rmarcinik@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Is it just me or is everyone receiving double messages? ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C85.1EDBD2B0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: How many files per QUICK screen, etc.
You probably received mine twice because I did a = reply all and didn't delete your address. Some mail servers remove = duplicates (ours does) and some don't.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Marcinik [mailto:rmarcinik@juno.com]=
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:23 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: How many files per QUICK screen, = etc.

Is it just me or is everyone receiving double = messages?

_______________________________________________________________= _
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C34C85.1EDBD2B0-- From dennis@dhassell.com Thu Jul 17 20:11:24 2003 From: dennis@dhassell.com (Dennis Hassell) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 15:11:24 -0400 Subject: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C34C75.B274A7A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been getting doubles from things I have not replied to. As someone else said, it seems to be random. Dennis Hassell Dennis Hassell and Associates (941) 746-4919 (941) 224-3981 - cell -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Deskin, Bob Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:02 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. You probably received mine twice because I did a reply all and didn't delete your address. Some mail servers remove duplicates (ours does) and some don't. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Roger Marcinik [mailto:rmarcinik@juno.com] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Is it just me or is everyone receiving double messages? ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C34C75.B274A7A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: How many files per QUICK screen, etc.

I’ve been getting doubles = from things I have not replied to. As someone else said, it seems to be = random.

Dennis Hassell
Dennis Hassell and = Associates
(941) 746-4919
(941) 224-3981 - cell

-----Original = Message-----
From: = powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Deskin, = Bob
Sent: Thursday, July 17, = 2003 1:02 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: How many = files per QUICK screen, etc.

You probably received mine twice because I = did a reply all and didn't delete your address. Some mail servers remove duplicates = (ours does) and some don't.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Marcinik [mailto:rmarcinik@juno.com]<= /font>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, = 2003 11:23 AM
To: = powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: How many = files per QUICK screen, etc.

Is it just me or is everyone receiving double messages?

______________________________________________= __________________
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------=_NextPart_000_002B_01C34C75.B274A7A0-- From dennis@dhassell.com Thu Jul 17 22:33:47 2003 From: dennis@dhassell.com (Dennis Hassell) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2003 17:33:47 -0400 Subject: Double E-Mails In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C34C89.94202130 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I do realize that, but what about the messages (or message threads) which I did not reply to? Those should not be duplicated. Right? Dennis Hassell Dennis Hassell and Associates (941) 746-4919 (941) 224-3981 - cell -----Original Message----- From: Dani [mailto:drodriguez@fersa-systems.com] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:52 PM To: Whittall, Conrad; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Cc: Dennis E. Hassell; 'Roger Marcinik' Subject: RE: Double E-Mails The reason of double e-mails is the way you answer a received e-mail. If you write only to powerh-l@lists-swau.edu the others members of the lists receive only one e-mail. If you answer using the 'answer to every everybody' option the one who wrote the original e-mail receive your e-mail and the one send by the lists. In the other hand, if you only answer to the one who makes a question, instead of answering to the list, the other members of the list can't read the possible solution to the problem and maybe you receive ten e-mails with the same solution. I have tried to explain it... but I'm not very used to write in English. Any grammar or spelling correction will be welcome ;-) Un saludo, Daniel Rodriguez Madrid (Spain) [Dani] -----Mensaje original----- De: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]En nombre de Whittall, Conrad Enviado el: jueves, 17 de julio de 2003 18:05 Para: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu CC: 'dennis@dhassell.com'; 'Roger Marcinik' Asunto: RE: Double E-Mails I don't seem to be having the problem...just one copy of each message. Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Hassell [mailto:dennis@dhassell.com] Sent: 17 July 2003 11:50 To: 'Roger Marcinik'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Double E-Mails Yes, I am, but I have been changing my e-mail lately and I thought it was just me. Dennis Hassell Dennis Hassell and Associates (941) 746-4919 (941) 224-3981 - cell -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Roger Marcinik Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 11:23 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: How many files per QUICK screen, etc. Is it just me or is everyone receiving double messages? Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C34C89.94202130 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Double E-Mails

I do realize that, but what about = the messages (or message threads) which I did not reply to? Those should not = be duplicated. Right?

Dennis Hassell
Dennis Hassell and = Associates
(941) 746-4919
(941) 224-3981 - cell

-----Original = Message-----
From: Dani [mailto:drodriguez@fersa-systems.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, = 2003 4:52 PM
To: Whittall, Conrad; = powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Cc: Dennis E. Hassell; 'Roger Marcinik'
Subject: RE: Double = E-Mails

The reason of = double e-mails is the way you answer a received e-mail. If you write only to powerh-l@lists-swau.edu the = others members of the lists receive only one e-mail. If you answer using the = 'answer to every everybody' option the one who wrote the original e-mail receive = your e-mail and the one send by the lists.

In the other = hand, if you only answer to the one who makes a question, instead of answering to the = list, the other members of the list can't read the possible solution to the = problem and maybe you receive ten e-mails with the same = solution.

I have tried to = explain it... but I'm not very used to write in English. Any grammar or spelling correction will be welcome = ;-)

Un = saludo,

Daniel = Rodriguez

Madrid = (Spain)

[Dani]

-----Mensaje original-----
De: = powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]En nombre de Whittall, Conrad
Enviado el: jueves, 17 de = julio de 2003 18:05
Para: = powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
CC: = 'dennis@dhassell.com'; 'Roger Marcinik'
Asunto: RE: Double = E-Mails

I don't seem to be having the problem...just = one copy of each message.

Best regards,
Conrad =

Conrad Whittall
Solutions Architect, = Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, = 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Hassell [mailto:dennis@dhassell.com]
Sent: 17 July 2003 = 11:50
To: 'Roger Marcinik'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Double = E-Mails

Yes, I am, but I have been changing my e-mail = lately and I thought it
was just = me.

Dennis Hassell
Dennis Hassell and = Associates
(941) = 746-4919
(941) 224-3981 - = cell

-----Original Message-----
From: = powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.s= wau.edu]
On Behalf Of Roger = Marcinik
Sent: Thursday, July 17, = 2003 11:23 AM
To: = powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: How many = files per QUICK screen, etc.

Is it just me or is everyone receiving double messages?

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This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in = error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from = your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done = so. Thank you.

------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C34C89.94202130-- From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Thu Jul 17 23:55:32 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 06:55:32 +0800 Subject: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename) Message-ID: Thanks to everyone that replied with their suggestions. I know it was a dumb question to ask, but I just had to ask in case someone knew of a special "trick" to get around it. Obviously PH cannot handle file name extensions of OUR choice, so yes, I've had to specify the proper name using a logical in VMS. I could have renamed it after the QUIZ job, but I need the file for other purposes so a logical was the way to go. From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Fri Jul 18 09:32:17 2003 From: chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk (Chris Sharman) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:32:17 +0100 Subject: Double E-Mails In-Reply-To: <200307171721450730496@equus.ccagroup.co.uk> References: <200307171721450730496@equus.ccagroup.co.uk> Message-ID: <3F17B091.6070307@ccagroup.co.uk> Bob Comeau wrote: > RE: Double E-Mails > I have had this problem from time to time. > > When it does occur it is not all messages, just some peculiar subset. > > No rhyme nor reason. I have changed nothing about my email for years. Double responses to my own messages are common (ie someone sends to me & to the list) - these are easily identified from the headers. Rarely, I too see other messages duplicated, which I tend to put down to double sending, which may or may not be true, but it's not frequent enough to be a problem to me. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM Fri Jul 18 14:14:45 2003 From: Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM (Hamilton, Allison) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:14:45 -0400 Subject: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename) Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D2E.8EEDA840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" 8.xx does handle file extensions in the set report device disc name, so, if you ever upgrade you shouldn't need to do the logical anymore. -----Original Message----- From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa) [mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:56 PM To: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu' Subject: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename) Thanks to everyone that replied with their suggestions. I know it was a dumb question to ask, but I just had to ask in case someone knew of a special "trick" to get around it. Obviously PH cannot handle file name extensions of OUR choice, so yes, I've had to specify the proper name using a logical in VMS. I could have renamed it after the QUIZ job, but I need the file for other purposes so a logical was the way to go. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D2E.8EEDA840 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename)
8.xx does handle file extensions in the set report = device disc name, so, if you ever upgrade you shouldn't need to do the = logical anymore.

-----Original Message-----
From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)
[mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.= com.au]
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:56 PM
To: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu'
Subject: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC = myfilename)

Thanks to everyone that replied with their = suggestions. I know it was a dumb
question to ask, but I just had to ask in case = someone knew of a special
"trick" to get around it. Obviously PH = cannot handle file name extensions of
OUR choice, so yes, I've had to specify the proper = name using a logical in
VMS. I could have renamed it after the QUIZ job, but = I need the file for
other purposes so a logical was the way to = go.
=3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D = =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D2E.8EEDA840-- From darren.reely@latticesemi.com Fri Jul 18 17:45:14 2003 From: darren.reely@latticesemi.com (Darren Reely) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 09:45:14 -0700 Subject: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename) References: Message-ID: <3F18241A.2090109@latticesemi.com> Allison, am I missing something. Under Solaris 8 and PH 8.23D7 the following produces a file named my.xml.txt. set report limit 10 set report device disc set report name my.xml access step_table in mfg report step step_group Since we dynamically build scripts to run our reports, I used the mv command to alter the file extension I was after. Darren. Hamilton, Allison wrote: > 8.xx does handle file extensions in the set report device disc name, > so, if you ever upgrade you shouldn't need to do the logical anymore. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa) > [mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:56 PM > To: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu' > Subject: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename) > > > Thanks to everyone that replied with their suggestions. I know it was > a dumb > question to ask, but I just had to ask in case someone knew of a special > "trick" to get around it. Obviously PH cannot handle file name > extensions of > OUR choice, so yes, I've had to specify the proper name using a > logical in > VMS. I could have renamed it after the QUIZ job, but I need the file for > other purposes so a logical was the way to go. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The > Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the > world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about > strategies for driving performance. Visit > http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. > If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended > recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not > open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and > notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. > From Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM Fri Jul 18 17:55:55 2003 From: Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM (Hamilton, Allison) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:55:55 -0400 Subject: PowerHouse Licensing DECnet ECO required for SMP machines prior t o 7.1 OpenVMS Alpha Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D4D.742AAC00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" We have recently discovered that there is a known problem with SMP (multi-CPU) Alpha machines running 6.1, 6.2 and 7.0 versions of OpenVMS if running DECnet Phase IV. There is an ECO that needs to be installed (or upgrade to 7.1) in order to run the FlexLM license daemon successfully in this environment. The description of the problem from HP is as follows (taken from a document from their support database): "SYMPTOM: An application hangs in LEF waiting for an I/O to complete on NETdevice. The DECnet links on the multiprocessor Alpha system hang in states like CI receiving, DI receiving, CI sending, DI sending. Other DECnetlinks have 00000000 owner PIDs, or show remote link numbers that nolonger exist on this system." We have observed exactly this scenario on a customer site when running permanent license keys. Applying the ECO has allowed them to run with permanent keys and doing SHOW KNOWN LINKS commands no longer shows evidence of the broken links. Before the ECO was applied, doing a SHOW KNOWN LINKS command in NCP showed links with 0 as the remote link, or a PID of 000000. The license daemon was in LEF state and would not respond to license requests (connection timeout). For OpenVMS 6.1 and 6.2 versions you need to install ECO DECNET4AECO362 on your machine in order to successfully run DECnet and license PowerHouse with permanent keys. The following URL will point to the ECO on HP's website, or you can query the HP support database using the ECO number. If the URL no longer functions, contact HP for assistance, or search their website. http://ftp.support.compaq.com/patches/public/Readmes/vms/decnet4aeco362.READ ME For OpenVMS 7.0, you will need to contact HP support to obtain the ECO kit (not on the Web site) DECNET4AECO170.A or upgrade to 7.1. The problem is resolved in 7.1 of OpenVMS. If you have upgraded to 7.1 and are using temporary license keys, you should retry running PowerHouse with your permanent keys. There is a strong likelihood that in this configuration the daemon will now function correctly. Many thanks to the customer who patiently worked with us to identify the problem and to the HP people who remembered the original issue and headed us in the right direction, and to all of you who have had to live with temporary key renewals until we managed to get the right combination of people and circumstances together to resolve it. We now have the ability to debug and therefore better resolve OpenVMS Licensing issues, so I hope that we will be able to address such concerns in a more timely fashion in the future. Allison Hamilton ADT Development Senior Software Engineer Cognos Inc. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D4D.742AAC00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable PowerHouse Licensing DECnet ECO required for SMP machines prior = to 7.1 OpenVMS Alpha
We have recently discovered that there = is a known problem with SMP (multi-CPU) Alpha machines running 6.1, 6.2 = and 7.0 versions of OpenVMS if running DECnet Phase IV. There is = an ECO that needs to be installed (or upgrade to 7.1) in order to run = the FlexLM license daemon successfully in this environment. The = description of the problem from HP is as follows (taken from a document = from their support database):

"SYMPTOM:
An application hangs in LEF waiting = for an I/O to complete on NETdevice.
The DECnet links on the = multiprocessor Alpha system hang in states like CI receiving, DI = receiving, CI sending, DI sending. Other DECnetlinks have 00000000 = owner PIDs, or show remote link numbers that nolonger exist on this = system."

We have observed exactly this scenario = on a customer site when running permanent license keys. Applying the = ECO has allowed them to run with permanent keys and doing SHOW KNOWN = LINKS commands no longer shows evidence of the broken links. Before the = ECO was applied, doing a SHOW KNOWN LINKS command in NCP showed links = with 0 as the remote link, or a PID of 000000. The license daemon = was in LEF state and would not respond to license requests (connection = timeout).

For OpenVMS 6.1 and 6.2 versions you = need to install ECO DECNET4AECO362 on your machine in order to = successfully run DECnet and license PowerHouse with permanent = keys. The following URL will point to the ECO on HP's website, or = you can query the HP support database using the ECO number.   = If the URL no longer functions, contact HP for assistance, or search = their website.

http://ftp.support.compaq.com/patches/public/Readmes/v= ms/decnet4aeco362.README

For OpenVMS 7.0, you will need to = contact HP support to obtain the ECO kit (not on the Web site) = DECNET4AECO170.A or upgrade to 7.1.

The problem is resolved in 7.1 of = OpenVMS. If you have upgraded to 7.1 and are using temporary = license keys, you should retry running PowerHouse with your permanent = keys. There is a strong likelihood that in this configuration the = daemon will now function correctly.

Many thanks to the customer who = patiently worked with us to identify the problem and to the HP people = who remembered the original issue and headed us in the right direction, = and to all of you who have had to live with temporary key renewals = until we managed to get the right combination of people and = circumstances together to resolve it.

We now have the ability to debug and = therefore better resolve OpenVMS Licensing issues, so I hope that we = will be able to address such concerns in a more timely fashion in = the future.

Allison Hamilton
ADT Development
Senior Software Engineer
Cognos Inc.

Join us at Cognos' biggest event of = the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. = Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity = for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving = performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more = details.

This message may contain privileged = and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail = in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, = disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it = immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail = that you have done so. Thank you.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D4D.742AAC00-- From Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM Fri Jul 18 18:00:28 2003 From: Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM (Hamilton, Allison) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:00:28 -0400 Subject: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename) Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D4E.16B367F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" No, you are not missing something. OpenVMS has physical extensions in the file name, (unlike unix where extensions are virtual) so when you ask for my.xml it will give you my.xml and not add on the .txt that a UNIX version would. I suppose I should have said that supplying the extension works for OpenVMS 8.xx versions. -----Original Message----- From: Darren Reely [mailto:darren.reely@latticesemi.com] Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:45 PM Cc: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu' Subject: Re: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename) Allison, am I missing something. Under Solaris 8 and PH 8.23D7 the following produces a file named my.xml.txt. set report limit 10 set report device disc set report name my.xml access step_table in mfg report step step_group Since we dynamically build scripts to run our reports, I used the mv command to alter the file extension I was after. Darren. Hamilton, Allison wrote: > 8.xx does handle file extensions in the set report device disc name, > so, if you ever upgrade you shouldn't need to do the logical anymore. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa) > [mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:56 PM > To: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu' > Subject: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename) > > > Thanks to everyone that replied with their suggestions. I know it was > a dumb > question to ask, but I just had to ask in case someone knew of a special > "trick" to get around it. Obviously PH cannot handle file name > extensions of > OUR choice, so yes, I've had to specify the proper name using a > logical in > VMS. I could have renamed it after the QUIZ job, but I need the file for > other purposes so a logical was the way to go. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The > Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the > world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about > strategies for driving performance. Visit > http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. > If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended > recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not > open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and > notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D4E.16B367F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC myfilename)
No, you are not missing something. OpenVMS has = physical extensions in the file name, (unlike unix where extensions are = virtual) so when you ask for my.xml it will give you my.xml and not add = on the .txt that a UNIX version would. I suppose I should have = said that supplying the extension works for OpenVMS 8.xx = versions.

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Reely [mailto:darren.reely@lattice= semi.com]
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 12:45 PM
Cc: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu'
Subject: Re: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC = myfilename)

Allison, am I missing something. Under Solaris 8 and = PH 8.23D7 the
following produces a file named my.xml.txt.

set report limit 10
set report device disc
set report name my.xml
access step_table in mfg
report step step_group

Since we dynamically build scripts to run our = reports, I used the mv
command to alter the file extension I was = after.

Darren.

Hamilton, Allison wrote:

> 8.xx does handle file extensions in the set = report device disc name,
> so, if you ever upgrade you shouldn't need to = do the logical anymore.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)
> [mailto:Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.= com.au]
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 6:56 PM
> To: 'powerh-l@cube.swau.edu'
> Subject: Fixed! (was RE: SET REP DEV DISC = myfilename)
>
>
> Thanks to everyone that replied with their = suggestions. I know it was
> a dumb
> question to ask, but I just had to ask in case = someone knew of a special
> "trick" to get around it. Obviously = PH cannot handle file name
> extensions of
> OUR choice, so yes, I've had to specify the = proper name using a
> logical in
> VMS. I could have renamed it after the QUIZ = job, but I need the file for
> other purposes so a logical was the way to = go.
> =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D = =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D
> Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> Subscribe: "subscribe" in message = body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu
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> powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu
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> This list is closed, thus to post to the list = you must be a subscriber.
>
> Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year = Enterprise 2003, The
> Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in = over 25 cities around the
> world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT = leaders to learn about
> strategies for driving performance. Visit =
> http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more = details.
>
> This message may contain privileged and/or = confidential information.
> If you have received this e-mail in error or = are not the intended
> recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate = or distribute it; do not
> open any attachments, delete it immediately = from your system and
> notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you = have done so. Thank you.
>

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D4E.16B367F0-- From SGates@olbh.com Fri Jul 18 20:02:37 2003 From: SGates@olbh.com (Gates, Scott) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 15:02:37 -0400 Subject: Stopping COL 80 Wrap on screen Message-ID: <60886916F548D511B53800A0C9C55150011A9F63@ashland01msx> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D5F.2762E3D0 Content-Type: text/plain I've SET PAGE WIDTH 132 and SET PAGE LEN 100 I've set the screen width in Reflections to 132. And when I try to dump the data to the screen it STILL wraps at 80 characters. Is there any way around this, besides dumping it to a file (and losing all my formatting in the process)? I just want to dump it to the screen and cut and paste the formatted output into a document into a document Scott Gates Programmer/Analyst Information Services Our Lady of Bellefonte Hospital P.O. Box 789 Ashland, Kentucky 41105-0789 ----------------------------------- Phone: (606)833-3773 Fax: (606)833-3342 ----------------------------------- Quote: ...Computers are...stupid. Unlike human beings, computers possess the truly profound stupidity of the inanimate. - Bruce Sterling - THE HACKER CRACKDOWN ----------------------------------- Intranet: http://Olbh01iis/intranet/index.html Primary e-mail : [mailto:sgates@olbh.com ] Alternate e-mail : [mailto:msgates@pobox.com ] ----------------------------------- Our Lady of Bellefonte : http://www.olbh.com ----------------------------------- Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail, fax, or phone and destroy all copies of the original message. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D5F.2762E3D0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stopping COL 80 Wrap on screen
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C34D5F.2762E3D0-- From palandri@4j.lane.edu Fri Jul 18 20:50:49 2003 From: palandri@4j.lane.edu (Mike Palandri) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:50:49 -0700 Subject: Stopping COL 80 Wrap on screen In-Reply-To: <60886916F548D511B53800A0C9C55150011A9F63@ashland01msx> Message-ID: <5.2.0.8.2.20030718124734.02a2efb0@eug4ja.lane.edu> Are you doing a SET REPORT DEVICE xxxxx after doing the SET PAGE WIDTH? SET REPORT DEVICE tends to set width and length back to the default; in my experience it works better to do the SET PAGE WIDTH after the SET REPORT DEVICE. I am not sure about the screen, I have had printed reports come out the wrong length because of this. At 03:02 PM 07/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: >I've SET PAGE WIDTH 132 and SET PAGE LEN 100 >I've set the screen width in Reflections to 132. >And when I try to dump the data to the screen it STILL wraps at 80 >characters. > >Is there any way around this, besides dumping it to a file (and losing all >my formatting in the process)? > >I just want to dump it to the screen and cut and paste the formatted >output into a document into a document > >Scott Gates >Programmer/Analyst >Information Services >Our Lady of Bellefonte Hospital >P.O. Box 789 >Ashland, Kentucky 41105-0789 >----------------------------------- >Phone: (606)833-3773 > Fax: (606)833-3342 >----------------------------------- >Quote: ...Computers are...stupid. Unlike human beings, computers possess >the truly >profound stupidity of the inanimate. - Bruce Sterling - THE HACKER CRACKDOWN >----------------------------------- >Intranet: >http://Olbh01iis/intranet/index.html >Primary e-mail : [mailto:sgates@olbh.com] >Alternate e-mail : [mailto:msgates@pobox.com] >----------------------------------- >Our Lady of Bellefonte : http://www.olbh.com >----------------------------------- >Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, is >for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential >and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or >distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please >contact the sender by reply e-mail, fax, or phone and destroy all copies >of the original message. Mike . From Georgia Miller Fri Jul 18 22:12:48 2003 From: Georgia Miller (Georgia Miller) Date: 18 Jul 2003 15:12:48 -0600 Subject: Stopping COL 80 Wrap on screen Message-ID: <3141385968georgia_miller@mail.gfps.k12.mt.us> The SET REPORT DEVICE command resets the SET PAGE command. Georgia Miller Great Falls Public Schools On 7/18/2003 1:50 PM, Mike Palandri wrote: >Are you doing a SET REPORT DEVICE xxxxx after doing the SET PAGE >WIDTH? > >SET REPORT DEVICE tends to set width and length back to the default; >in my >experience it works better to do the SET PAGE WIDTH after the SET >REPORT >DEVICE. I am not sure about the screen, I have had printed reports >come out >the wrong length because of this. > >At 03:02 PM 07/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: > >>I've SET PAGE WIDTH 132 and SET PAGE LEN 100 >>I've set the screen width in Reflections to 132. >>And when I try to dump the data to the screen it STILL wraps at >80 >>characters. >> >>Is there any way around this, besides dumping it to a file (and >losing all >>my formatting in the process)? >> >>I just want to dump it to the screen and cut and paste the formatted > >>output into a document into a document >> >>Scott Gates >>Programmer/Analyst >>Information Services >>Our Lady of Bellefonte Hospital >>P.O. Box 789 >>Ashland, Kentucky 41105-0789 >>----------------------------------- >>Phone: (606)833-3773 >> Fax: (606)833-3342 >>----------------------------------- >>Quote: ...Computers are...stupid. Unlike human beings, computers >possess >>the truly >>profound stupidity of the inanimate. - Bruce Sterling - THE HACKER >CRACKDOWN >>----------------------------------- >>Intranet: >>http://Olbh01iis/intranet/index.html >>Primary e-mail : [mailto:sgates@olbh.com] >>Alternate e-mail : [mailto:msgates@pobox.com] >>----------------------------------- >>Our Lady of Bellefonte : http://www.olbh.com >>----------------------------------- >>Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message, including any attachments, >is >>for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential > >>and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure >or >>distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, >please >>contact the sender by reply e-mail, fax, or phone and destroy all >copies >>of the original message. > > >Mike >. > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > From mfuruya@bestlife.com Wed Jul 23 23:41:55 2003 From: mfuruya@bestlife.com (Marvin Furuya) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:41:55 -0700 Subject: General Question Message-ID: <61438DC46E69D411805700010257584770CA7E@bestexchange.irvine.bestins.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3516B.9E36AE00 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello all, I'm new on the email list and was wondering if someone could answer a few question for me. 1. Would a person that is very proficient with Cognos Powerhouse 4GL have any issues whether it was running on MPE/IX e3000 or Open VMS operating systems either on a DEC or Compaq Alpha server DS20E? 2. Is the Cognos program designed differently based on different O/S? 3. If the program has already been written in Cognos Powerhouse on a DEC with OpenVMS O/S, and someone new came in to modify and customize it, would it be very difficult for that person to determine what the program was doing and how? We're possibly looking for someone to do custom alteration to an existing program that is already in use. Basically modifying it to meet our needs. Thanks for any advise, Marvin Furuya Management Information Systems BEST Life and Health Insurance Company 2505 McCabe Way Irvine, CA 92614 Ph: (800) 237-8543 ext 203 Fax: (949)222-1005 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3516B.9E36AE00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable General Question
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2. Is the Cognos program designed = differently based on different O/S?
3. If the program has already = been written in Cognos Powerhouse on a DEC with OpenVMS O/S, and someone = new came in to modify and customize it, would it be very difficult for = that person to determine what the program was doing and how?

We're possibly looking for someone to = do custom alteration to an existing program that is already in = use. Basically modifying it to meet our needs.

Thanks for any advise,

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3516B.9E36AE00-- From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Thu Jul 24 00:02:42 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:02:42 -0500 Subject: General Question Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01A16A05@BLISTEXEXC> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3516E.85733C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" [BE>] G'day Marvin > I'm new on the email list and was wondering if someone could answer a few question for me. [BE>] Welcome! :) > 1. Would a person that is very proficient with Cognos Powerhouse 4GL have any issues whether it was running on MPE/IX e3000 or Open VMS operating systems either on a DEC or Compaq Alpha server DS20E? [BE>] In most cases YES. There are a few syntax items that will work on OpenVMS but not on other O/S's. E.g. mailbox files > 2. Is the Cognos program designed differently based on different O/S? [BE>] AFAIK yes. Cognos tried to optimise the use of the good features of each O/S. However since version 8.2n Cognos has moved towards a common source for PowerHouse on all O/S's it's available on. > 3. If the program has already been written in Cognos Powerhouse on a DEC with OpenVMS O/S, and someone new came in to modify and customize it, would it be very difficult for that person to determine what the program was doing and how? [BE>] If they were proficient in PowerHouse, NO. *But*, how much DCL is involved? What about use of mailboxes? The PHD tools on OpenVMS is unique and would be unfamiliar to PHers with non-VMS experience. On non-VMS platforms the dictionary is compiled from PDL source to a PDC file. On OpenVMS the dictionary is a small database maintained through a set of Quick screens. > We're possibly looking for someone to do custom alteration to an existing program that is already in use. Basically modifying it to meet our needs. [BE>] How old is the program? What version of PH? How complex is the program? What is/are the data source/s used? Blue ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3516E.85733C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" General Question
[BE>] G'day Marvin

> I'm new on the email list and was wondering if someone could answer a few question for me.
[BE>] Welcome! :)

> 1. Would a person that is very proficient with Cognos Powerhouse 4GL have any issues whether it was running on MPE/IX e3000 or Open VMS operating systems either on a DEC or Compaq Alpha server DS20E?
[BE>] In most cases YES. There are a few syntax items that will work on OpenVMS but not on other O/S's. E.g. mailbox files

> 2. Is the Cognos program designed differently based on different O/S?
[BE>] AFAIK yes. Cognos tried to optimise the use of the good features of each O/S. However since version 8.2n Cognos has moved towards a common source for PowerHouse on all O/S's it's available on.

> 3. If the program has already been written in Cognos Powerhouse on a DEC with OpenVMS O/S, and someone new came in to modify and customize it, would it be very difficult for that person to determine what the program was doing and how?
[BE>] If they were proficient in PowerHouse, NO. *But*, how much DCL is involved? What about use of mailboxes? The PHD tools on OpenVMS is unique and would be unfamiliar to PHers with non-VMS experience. On non-VMS platforms the dictionary is compiled from PDL source to a PDC file. On OpenVMS the dictionary is a small database maintained through a set of Quick screens.

> We're possibly looking for someone to do custom alteration to an existing program that is already in use. Basically modifying it to meet our needs.
[BE>] How old is the program? What version of PH? How complex is the program? What is/are the data source/s used?

Blue
------_=_NextPart_001_01C3516E.85733C00-- From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Thu Jul 24 00:04:47 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:04:47 -0500 Subject: PH gig in UK Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01A16A06@BLISTEXEXC> Job Title: Senior Analyst / Programmer Salary: N/A Location: Central/West End Description: An experienced Analyst Programmer with Powerhouse 4GL (QDESIGN, QUIZ, QTP)and DCL skills is currently required with strong client - facing skills. Oracle and SQL are beneficial for the role. This role entails working as part of a small team to support and enhance an in-house insurance and time recording system to meet the changing needs of the business. Keys areas of the role will be the analysis of business requirements, writing technical specifications for program development, programming solutions using PowerHouse in a VMS environment. Testing software and writing user documentation. For more information: http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/joblink.asp?JobID=9200955&GUID=2E6123D4E784102D57021 8FFA9BEF910 Blue has no more information about this gig other than what is shown above. From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Thu Jul 24 00:06:39 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 18:06:39 -0500 Subject: another UK gig Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01A16A07@BLISTEXEXC> Job Title: PowerHouse Senior Analyst/Programmer Salary: 30k to 34k Annual Location: Berkshire Description: PowerHouse Senior Analyst/Programmer This role entails working as part of a small PowerHouse/VMS development team to support & enhance an in-house insurance and time recording system to meet the changing needs of the business. Key areas of the role will be the analysis of business requirements, writing technical specifications for program development, programming solutions using PowerHouse in a VMS environment. Testing software & writing user documentation. Excellent communication skills required. Preferably education to Degree standard or an equivalent IT related qualification. An Insurance background would be a nice to have, but not essential. Hardware: DEC VAX/ALPHA, Open VMS Essential: PowerHouse 4GL (QDESIGN, QUIZ, QTP), DCL. Nice to have: Oracle Rdb, SQL. PowerHouse 4GL (QDESIGN, QUIZ, QTP), DCL , VAX/ALPHA, Open VMS, Oracle Rdb, SQL Salary 30k plus benefits could go higher if required. Based in Windsor, Berkshire. For more information: http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/joblink.asp?JobID=9200829&GUID=2E6123D4E784102D57021 8FFA9BEF910 Sorry if I've posted this one before. :) Blue has no info about this gig other than what is above! From Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca Thu Jul 24 00:09:32 2003 From: Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca (Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:09:32 -0700 Subject: PH gig in UK Message-ID: <0942C9E7BCB2164F997A601AF1098770AC166C@candle.gov.bc.ca> I love these "Salary: N/A" jobs that pop up. You just know that they're trying to find someone cheap and desperate... lol -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com] Sent: 2003 July 23 4:05 PM To: Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: PH gig in UK Job Title: Senior Analyst / Programmer Salary: N/A Location: Central/West End Description: An experienced Analyst Programmer with Powerhouse 4GL (QDESIGN, QUIZ, QTP)and DCL skills is currently required with strong client - facing skills. Oracle and SQL are beneficial for the role. This role entails working as part of a small team to support and enhance an in-house insurance and time recording system to meet the changing needs of the business. Keys areas of the role will be the analysis of business requirements, writing technical specifications for program development, programming solutions using PowerHouse in a VMS environment. Testing software and writing user documentation. For more information: http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/joblink.asp?JobID=9200955&GUID=2E6123D4E784102D57021 8FFA9BEF910 Blue has no more information about this gig other than what is shown above. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca Thu Jul 24 00:12:13 2003 From: Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca (Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX) Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 16:12:13 -0700 Subject: another UK gig Message-ID: <0942C9E7BCB2164F997A601AF1098770AC166D@candle.gov.bc.ca> doh! spoke too soon.. glad to see it was filled in... -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com] Sent: 2003 July 23 4:07 PM To: Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: another UK gig Job Title: PowerHouse Senior Analyst/Programmer Salary: 30k to 34k Annual Location: Berkshire Description: PowerHouse Senior Analyst/Programmer This role entails working as part of a small PowerHouse/VMS development team to support & enhance an in-house insurance and time recording system to meet the changing needs of the business. Key areas of the role will be the analysis of business requirements, writing technical specifications for program development, programming solutions using PowerHouse in a VMS environment. Testing software & writing user documentation. Excellent communication skills required. Preferably education to Degree standard or an equivalent IT related qualification. An Insurance background would be a nice to have, but not essential. Hardware: DEC VAX/ALPHA, Open VMS Essential: PowerHouse 4GL (QDESIGN, QUIZ, QTP), DCL. Nice to have: Oracle Rdb, SQL. PowerHouse 4GL (QDESIGN, QUIZ, QTP), DCL , VAX/ALPHA, Open VMS, Oracle Rdb, SQL Salary 30k plus benefits could go higher if required. Based in Windsor, Berkshire. For more information: http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/joblink.asp?JobID=9200829&GUID=2E6123D4E784102D57021 8FFA9BEF910 Sorry if I've posted this one before. :) Blue has no info about this gig other than what is above! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM Thu Jul 24 15:12:03 2003 From: Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM (Hamilton, Allison) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:12:03 -0400 Subject: General Question Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C351ED.8E916C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" See below -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:03 PM To: Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: RE: General Question [BE>] G'day Marvin > I'm new on the email list and was wondering if someone could answer a few question for me. [BE>] Welcome! :) > 1. Would a person that is very proficient with Cognos Powerhouse 4GL have any issues whether it was running on MPE/IX e3000 or Open VMS operating systems either on a DEC or Compaq Alpha server DS20E? [BE>] In most cases YES. There are a few syntax items that will work on OpenVMS but not on other O/S's. E.g. mailbox files [Hamilton, Allison] There are also a few things that are only on MPE/iX such as message files (similar to mailbox files in function) and IMAGE but a good programmer should be able to sort these things out fairly easily. You can write PowerHouse code without using platform dependent code if desired. > 2. Is the Cognos program designed differently based on different O/S? [BE>] AFAIK yes. Cognos tried to optimise the use of the good features of each O/S. However since version 8.2n Cognos has moved towards a common source for PowerHouse on all O/S's it's available on. [Hamilton, Allison] I think that your question is more about whether the code that you would write would be designed differently on different O/S's and I'd say in general no. There are a few issues with the order of PUT's that IMAGE requires that is different, but PowerHouse itself deals with that if you are using default code generation for update procedures. Excluding the few machine specific features on each platform, the general PowerHouse code is platform independent. > 3. If the program has already been written in Cognos Powerhouse on a DEC with OpenVMS O/S, and someone new came in to modify and customize it, would it be very difficult for that person to determine what the program was doing and how? [BE>] If they were proficient in PowerHouse, NO. *But*, how much DCL is involved? What about use of mailboxes? The PHD tools on OpenVMS is unique and would be unfamiliar to PHers with non-VMS experience. On non-VMS platforms the dictionary is compiled from PDL source to a PDC file. On OpenVMS the dictionary is a small database maintained through a set of Quick screens. [Hamilton, Allison] It would be no different trying to figure out what it is doing if it was written on OpenVMS than on MPE/iX. Assuming that you understand the few machine specific things that can be in the code and know how to use the tools to edit and compile, the basic PowerHouse code should be no more difficult to follow on one machine than any other. On any platform, you need to have a basic understanding of the scripting language, but from my experience I find DCL slightly more straightforward than HP's language, but neither is very complicated. PDL is also available on OpenVMS, so someone coming in can use it or the PHD interactive tools. Actually, someone coming in from an MPE/iX environment may have been using Archictect, and would probably find PHD easy to learn and use as it is also a QUICK dictionary maintenance tool. On 8.30 and above on OpenVMS both the PDC and PHD format dictionaries and tools are available so one can choose whichever one is most comfortable with. > We're possibly looking for someone to do custom alteration to an existing program that is already in use. Basically modifying it to meet our needs. [BE>] How old is the program? What version of PH? How complex is the program? What is/are the data source/s used? Blue Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C351ED.8E916C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" General Question
See below

-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2003 7:03 PM
To: Powerh-L (E-mail)
Subject: RE: General Question

[BE>] G'day Marvin

> I'm new on the email list and was wondering if someone could answer a few question for me.
[BE>] Welcome! :)

> 1. Would a person that is very proficient with Cognos Powerhouse 4GL have any issues whether it was running on MPE/IX e3000 or Open VMS operating systems either on a DEC or Compaq Alpha server DS20E?
[BE>] In most cases YES. There are a few syntax items that will work on OpenVMS but not on other O/S's. E.g. mailbox files
[Hamilton, Allison] There are also a few things that are only on MPE/iX such as message files (similar to mailbox files in function) and IMAGE but a good programmer should be able to sort these things out fairly easily. You can write PowerHouse code without using platform dependent code if desired.

> 2. Is the Cognos program designed differently based on different O/S?
[BE>] AFAIK yes. Cognos tried to optimise the use of the good features of each O/S. However since version 8.2n Cognos has moved towards a common source for PowerHouse on all O/S's it's available on.
[Hamilton, Allison] I think that your question is more about whether the code that you would write would be designed differently on different O/S's and I'd say in general no. There are a few issues with the order of PUT's that IMAGE requires that is different, but PowerHouse itself deals with that if you are using default code generation for update procedures. Excluding the few machine specific features on each platform, the general PowerHouse code is platform independent.

> 3. If the program has already been written in Cognos Powerhouse on a DEC with OpenVMS O/S, and someone new came in to modify and customize it, would it be very difficult for that person to determine what the program was doing and how?
[BE>] If they were proficient in PowerHouse, NO. *But*, how much DCL is involved? What about use of mailboxes? The PHD tools on OpenVMS is unique and would be unfamiliar to PHers with non-VMS experience. On non-VMS platforms the dictionary is compiled from PDL source to a PDC file. On OpenVMS the dictionary is a small database maintained through a set of Quick screens.
[Hamilton, Allison] It would be no different trying to figure out what it is doing if it was written on OpenVMS than on MPE/iX. Assuming that you understand the few machine specific things that can be in the code and know how to use the tools to edit and compile, the basic PowerHouse code should be no more difficult to follow on one machine than any other.  On any platform, you need to have a basic understanding of the scripting language, but from my experience I find DCL slightly more straightforward than HP's language, but neither is very complicated. PDL is also available on OpenVMS, so someone coming in can use it or the PHD interactive tools. Actually, someone coming in from an MPE/iX environment may have been using Archictect, and would probably find PHD easy to learn and use as it is also a QUICK dictionary maintenance tool. On 8.30 and above on OpenVMS both the PDC and PHD format dictionaries and tools are available so one can choose whichever one is most comfortable with.

> We're possibly looking for someone to do custom alteration to an existing program that is already in use. Basically modifying it to meet our needs.
[BE>] How old is the program? What version of PH? How complex is the program? What is/are the data source/s used?

Blue

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C351ED.8E916C60-- From guy.werry@hbms.ca Thu Jul 24 15:26:53 2003 From: guy.werry@hbms.ca (Guy Werry) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:26:53 -0500 Subject: Re "Newbies" & multi-platform coding Message-ID: Reading the comments that have been directed to Marvin, the one below perked up my "DANGER" reactions. Allison's comments about the order of PUTs for IMAGE is good, but I think it bears saying that default procedures in general and especially the UPDATE procedures should not be manually coded unless it's completely unavoidable. I've always felt that that's one of Powerhouse's great features is that I can add a new file to a screen, butcher the data in it like crazy and then have the updating done for me. Thanks, Guy. > 2. Is the Cognos program designed differently based on different O/S? [BE>] AFAIK yes. Cognos tried to optimise the use of the good features of each O/S. However since version 8.2n Cognos has moved towards a common source for PowerHouse on all O/S's it's available on. [Hamilton, Allison] I think that your question is more about whether the code that you would write would be designed differently on different O/S's and I'd say in general no. There are a few issues with the order of PUT's that IMAGE requires that is different, but PowerHouse itself deals with that if you are using default code generation for update procedures. Excluding the few machine specific features on each platform, the general PowerHouse code is platform independent. From Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM Thu Jul 24 15:47:03 2003 From: Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM (Hamilton, Allison) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 10:47:03 -0400 Subject: Re "Newbies" & multi-platform coding Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C351F2.720854F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" AMEN to that one. If at all possible, put user code in the postupdate or preupdate procedures and leave the update procedure to PowerHouse. -----Original Message----- From: Guy Werry [mailto:guy.werry@hbms.ca] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:27 AM To: PH Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: Re "Newbies" & multi-platform coding Reading the comments that have been directed to Marvin, the one below perked up my "DANGER" reactions. Allison's comments about the order of PUTs for IMAGE is good, but I think it bears saying that default procedures in general and especially the UPDATE procedures should not be manually coded unless it's completely unavoidable. I've always felt that that's one of Powerhouse's great features is that I can add a new file to a screen, butcher the data in it like crazy and then have the updating done for me. Thanks, Guy. > 2. Is the Cognos program designed differently based on different O/S? [BE>] AFAIK yes. Cognos tried to optimise the use of the good features of each O/S. However since version 8.2n Cognos has moved towards a common source for PowerHouse on all O/S's it's available on. [Hamilton, Allison] I think that your question is more about whether the code that you would write would be designed differently on different O/S's and I'd say in general no. There are a few issues with the order of PUT's that IMAGE requires that is different, but PowerHouse itself deals with that if you are using default code generation for update procedures. Excluding the few machine specific features on each platform, the general PowerHouse code is platform independent. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C351F2.720854F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Re "Newbies" & multi-platform coding
AMEN to that one. If at all possible, put user = code in the postupdate or preupdate procedures and leave the update = procedure to PowerHouse.

-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Werry [mailto:guy.werry@hbms.ca]
Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:27 AM
To: PH Mailing List (E-mail)
Subject: Re "Newbies" & multi-platform = coding

Reading the comments that have been directed to = Marvin, the one below perked
up my "DANGER" reactions. Allison's = comments about the order of PUTs for
IMAGE is good, but I think it bears saying that = default procedures in
general and especially the UPDATE procedures should = not be manually coded
unless it's completely unavoidable. I've = always felt that that's one of
Powerhouse's great features is that I can add a new = file to a screen,
butcher the data in it like crazy and then have the = updating done for me.
Thanks,
        Guy.
        > 2. = Is the Cognos program designed differently based on different
O/S?
        [BE>] = AFAIK yes. Cognos tried to optimise the use of the good
features of each O/S. However since version 8.2n = Cognos has moved towards a
common source for PowerHouse on all O/S's it's = available on.
        [Hamilton, Allison] I think that your question is more about = whether
the code that you would write would be designed = differently on different
O/S's and I'd say in general no. There are a few = issues with the order of
PUT's that IMAGE requires that is different, but = PowerHouse itself deals
with that if you are using default code generation = for update procedures.
Excluding the few machine specific features on each = platform, the general
PowerHouse code is platform independent.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C351F2.720854F0-- From VGoparaju@tradepointsystems.com Thu Jul 24 19:09:20 2003 From: VGoparaju@tradepointsystems.com (Goparaju, Vidyasagar) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:09:20 -0400 Subject: UNIX Cobol & Powerhouse Message-ID: We are looking into MicroFocus and AcuCorp for Cobol compilers on UNIX/Solaris with Powerhouse & Oracle. Anyone had any issues building a QKDRIVER for either of these? Anyone using these for a QKDRIVER? Thanks for any advise. Sagar TradePoint Systems From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Fri Jul 25 19:56:06 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:56:06 -0500 Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01A3F099@BLISTEXEXC> G'day all It seems there are a number of ways to declare SQL Server databases in a dictionary. For SQL Server 2000 what do y'all recommend? E.g. Database & Type SQLSERVER & Owner & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "|@/" or Database & Type ODBC & Owner & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "|@/" or Database & Type ODBC & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open " & Userid "" & Password "" etc. Blue From Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM Fri Jul 25 20:14:39 2003 From: Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM (Whittall, Conrad) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:14:39 -0400 Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Message-ID: <9BB2C83BBB6AD7119554000802FF51B8439063@sottexch3.cognos.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E0.FE7BBD20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi Blue, For Microsoft SQL Server 2000 the recommended connection is ODBC. The SQLSERVER type uses the old DB-LIB API and should only really be used for SQL Server 6.5. The final format of the DATABASE statement you show is probably most appropriate, with the parameter being the ODBC DSN for the database, as configured through the ODBC Administrator (in which case username and password parameters can be omitted from the dictionary if they are specified in the ODBC Administrator). Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com] Sent: 25 July 2003 14:56 To: Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL G'day all It seems there are a number of ways to declare SQL Server databases in a dictionary. For SQL Server 2000 what do y'all recommend? E.g. Database & Type SQLSERVER & Owner & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "|@/" or Database & Type ODBC & Owner & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "|@/" or Database & Type ODBC & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open " & Userid "" & Password "" etc. Blue = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E0.FE7BBD20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL
Hi Blue,

For Microsoft SQL Server 2000 the recommended = connection is ODBC. The SQLSERVER type uses the old DB-LIB API and = should only really be used for SQL Server 6.5.

The final format of the DATABASE statement you show = is probably most appropriate, with the <database name> parameter = being the ODBC DSN for the database, as configured through the ODBC = Administrator (in which case username and password parameters can be = omitted from the dictionary if they are specified in the ODBC = Administrator).

Best regards,
Conrad

Conrad Whittall
Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, = Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: 25 July 2003 14:56
To: Powerh-L (E-mail)
Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in = PDL

G'day all

It seems there are a number of ways to declare SQL = Server databases in a
dictionary. For SQL Server 2000 what do y'all = recommend?

E.g.
Database <database = name>     &
    Type = SQLSERVER       &
    Owner <owner = name>          &nbs= p; &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED & =
    Open "<server = name>|<database = name>@<userid>/<password>"

or

Database <database = name>     &
    Type = ODBC       &
    Owner <owner = name>          &nbs= p; &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED & =
    Open "<server = name>|<database = name>@<userid>/<password>"

or

Database <database = name>     &
    Type = ODBC       &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED & =
    Open "<database name> = &
    Userid "<userid>" = &
    Password = "<password>"

etc.

Blue

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Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year = Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in = over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and = IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit = http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more = details.

This message may contain privileged and/or = confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in = error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, = disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it = immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail = that you have done so. Thank you.
------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E0.FE7BBD20-- From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Fri Jul 25 20:28:48 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:28:48 -0500 Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01A3F0A2@BLISTEXEXC> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E2.F8FD9240 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks for the replies Conrad and Christina I finally got it work using: Database DM_COMMON & Type ODBC & Owner dbo & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "DM_COMMON" & Userid "cognos" & Password "cognos" However I still got the following error in QDESIGN after typing the following: >screen TEST html >file T_BRANDS in DM_COMMON >gen >go *E* Can't open the file specified on the AUTO program parameter. (test) -----Original Message----- From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:15 PM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Hi Blue, For Microsoft SQL Server 2000 the recommended connection is ODBC. The SQLSERVER type uses the old DB-LIB API and should only really be used for SQL Server 6.5. The final format of the DATABASE statement you show is probably most appropriate, with the parameter being the ODBC DSN for the database, as configured through the ODBC Administrator (in which case username and password parameters can be omitted from the dictionary if they are specified in the ODBC Administrator). Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [ mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com ] Sent: 25 July 2003 14:56 To: Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL G'day all It seems there are a number of ways to declare SQL Server databases in a dictionary. For SQL Server 2000 what do y'all recommend? E.g. Database & Type SQLSERVER & Owner & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "|@/" or Database & Type ODBC & Owner & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "|@/" or Database & Type ODBC & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open " & Userid "" & Password "" etc. Blue = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E2.F8FD9240 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL
Thanks for the replies Conrad and Christina

I finally got it work using:

Database DM_COMMON     &
    Type ODBC       &

    Owner dbo &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "DM_COMMON" &
    Userid "cognos" &
    Password "cognos"

However I still got the following error in QDESIGN after typing the following:

>screen TEST html

>file T_BRANDS in DM_COMMON

>gen

>go

*E* Can't open the file specified on the AUTO program parameter.
(test)

-----Original Message-----
From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:15 PM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL

Hi Blue,

For Microsoft SQL Server 2000 the recommended connection is ODBC. The SQLSERVER type uses the old DB-LIB API and should only really be used for SQL Server 6.5.

The final format of the DATABASE statement you show is probably most appropriate, with the <database name> parameter being the ODBC DSN for the database, as configured through the ODBC Administrator (in which case username and password parameters can be omitted from the dictionary if they are specified in the ODBC Administrator).

Best regards,
Conrad

Conrad Whittall
Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: 25 July 2003 14:56
To: Powerh-L (E-mail)
Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL

G'day all

It seems there are a number of ways to declare SQL Server databases in a
dictionary. For SQL Server 2000 what do y'all recommend?

E.g.
Database <database name>     &
    Type SQLSERVER       &
    Owner <owner name>            &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "<server name>|<database name>@<userid>/<password>"

or

Database <database name>     &
    Type ODBC       &
    Owner <owner name>            &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "<server name>|<database name>@<userid>/<password>"

or

Database <database name>     &
    Type ODBC       &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "<database name> &
    Userid "<userid>" &
    Password "<password>"

etc.

Blue

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E2.F8FD9240-- From Jean-Pierre.Fortin@cognos.com Fri Jul 25 20:42:15 2003 From: Jean-Pierre.Fortin@cognos.com (Fortin, Jean-Pierre) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 15:42:15 -0400 Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E4.D9F97010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi There a version of PH for NT where you build the screen in order to execute it. /JP -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 3:29 PM To: Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Thanks for the replies Conrad and Christina I finally got it work using: Database DM_COMMON & Type ODBC & Owner dbo & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "DM_COMMON" & Userid "cognos" & Password "cognos" However I still got the following error in QDESIGN after typing the following: >screen TEST html >file T_BRANDS in DM_COMMON >gen >go *E* Can't open the file specified on the AUTO program parameter. (test) -----Original Message----- From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:15 PM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Hi Blue, For Microsoft SQL Server 2000 the recommended connection is ODBC. The SQLSERVER type uses the old DB-LIB API and should only really be used for SQL Server 6.5. The final format of the DATABASE statement you show is probably most appropriate, with the parameter being the ODBC DSN for the database, as configured through the ODBC Administrator (in which case username and password parameters can be omitted from the dictionary if they are specified in the ODBC Administrator). Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [ mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com ] Sent: 25 July 2003 14:56 To: Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL G'day all It seems there are a number of ways to declare SQL Server databases in a dictionary. For SQL Server 2000 what do y'all recommend? E.g. Database & Type SQLSERVER & Owner & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "|@/" or Database & Type ODBC & Owner & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "|@/" or Database & Type ODBC & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open " & Userid "" & Password "" etc. Blue = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E4.D9F97010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL
Hi

There a version of PH for NT where you build the screen in order to execute it.

/JP

-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 3:29 PM
To: Powerh-L (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL

Thanks for the replies Conrad and Christina

I finally got it work using:

Database DM_COMMON     &
    Type ODBC       &

    Owner dbo &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "DM_COMMON" &
    Userid "cognos" &
    Password "cognos"

However I still got the following error in QDESIGN after typing the following:

>screen TEST html

>file T_BRANDS in DM_COMMON

>gen

>go

*E* Can't open the file specified on the AUTO program parameter.
(test)

-----Original Message-----
From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:15 PM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL

Hi Blue,

For Microsoft SQL Server 2000 the recommended connection is ODBC. The SQLSERVER type uses the old DB-LIB API and should only really be used for SQL Server 6.5.

The final format of the DATABASE statement you show is probably most appropriate, with the <database name> parameter being the ODBC DSN for the database, as configured through the ODBC Administrator (in which case username and password parameters can be omitted from the dictionary if they are specified in the ODBC Administrator).

Best regards,
Conrad

Conrad Whittall
Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: 25 July 2003 14:56
To: Powerh-L (E-mail)
Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL

G'day all

It seems there are a number of ways to declare SQL Server databases in a
dictionary. For SQL Server 2000 what do y'all recommend?

E.g.
Database <database name>     &
    Type SQLSERVER       &
    Owner <owner name>            &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "<server name>|<database name>@<userid>/<password>"

or

Database <database name>     &
    Type ODBC       &
    Owner <owner name>            &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "<server name>|<database name>@<userid>/<password>"

or

Database <database name>     &
    Type ODBC       &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "<database name> &
    Userid "<userid>" &
    Password "<password>"

etc.

Blue

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E4.D9F97010-- From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Fri Jul 25 20:42:35 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 14:42:35 -0500 Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01A3F0AF@BLISTEXEXC> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E4.E5EB9AB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Thanks, I using the beta version PH 8.41 B2. This has a copy of QUICK with it. Blue -----Original Message----- From: Fortin, Jean-Pierre [mailto:Jean-Pierre.Fortin@cognos.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:42 PM To: 'Edis, Robert'; Powerh-L (E-mail) Cc: Hasse, Christina; Whittall, Conrad Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Hi There a version of PH for NT where you build the screen in order to execute it. /JP -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 3:29 PM To: Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Thanks for the replies Conrad and Christina I finally got it work using: Database DM_COMMON & Type ODBC & Owner dbo & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "DM_COMMON" & Userid "cognos" & Password "cognos" However I still got the following error in QDESIGN after typing the following: >screen TEST html >file T_BRANDS in DM_COMMON >gen >go *E* Can't open the file specified on the AUTO program parameter. (test) -----Original Message----- From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com] Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:15 PM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Hi Blue, For Microsoft SQL Server 2000 the recommended connection is ODBC. The SQLSERVER type uses the old DB-LIB API and should only really be used for SQL Server 6.5. The final format of the DATABASE statement you show is probably most appropriate, with the parameter being the ODBC DSN for the database, as configured through the ODBC Administrator (in which case username and password parameters can be omitted from the dictionary if they are specified in the ODBC Administrator). Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Robert [ mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com ] Sent: 25 July 2003 14:56 To: Powerh-L (E-mail) Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL G'day all It seems there are a number of ways to declare SQL Server databases in a dictionary. For SQL Server 2000 what do y'all recommend? E.g. Database & Type SQLSERVER & Owner & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "|@/" or Database & Type ODBC & Owner & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open "|@/" or Database & Type ODBC & NULL VALUES ALLOWED & Open " & Userid "" & Password "" etc. Blue = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C352E4.E5EB9AB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL
Thanks,

I using the beta version PH 8.41 B2. This has a copy of QUICK with it.

Blue

-----Original Message-----
From: Fortin, Jean-Pierre [mailto:Jean-Pierre.Fortin@cognos.com]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:42 PM
To: 'Edis, Robert'; Powerh-L (E-mail)
Cc: Hasse, Christina; Whittall, Conrad
Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL

Hi

There a version of PH for NT where you build the screen in order to execute it.

/JP

-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 3:29 PM
To: Powerh-L (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL

Thanks for the replies Conrad and Christina

I finally got it work using:

Database DM_COMMON     &
    Type ODBC       &

    Owner dbo &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "DM_COMMON" &
    Userid "cognos" &
    Password "cognos"

However I still got the following error in QDESIGN after typing the following:

>screen TEST html

>file T_BRANDS in DM_COMMON

>gen

>go

*E* Can't open the file specified on the AUTO program parameter.
(test)

-----Original Message-----
From: Whittall, Conrad [mailto:Conrad.Whittall@cognos.com]
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 2:15 PM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
Subject: RE: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL

Hi Blue,

For Microsoft SQL Server 2000 the recommended connection is ODBC. The SQLSERVER type uses the old DB-LIB API and should only really be used for SQL Server 6.5.

The final format of the DATABASE statement you show is probably most appropriate, with the <database name> parameter being the ODBC DSN for the database, as configured through the ODBC Administrator (in which case username and password parameters can be omitted from the dictionary if they are specified in the ODBC Administrator).

Best regards,
Conrad

Conrad Whittall
Solutions Architect, Global Customer Services
Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada

-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Robert [mailto:Robert.Edis@blistex.com]
Sent: 25 July 2003 14:56
To: Powerh-L (E-mail)
Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL

G'day all

It seems there are a number of ways to declare SQL Server databases in a
dictionary. For SQL Server 2000 what do y'all recommend?

E.g.
Database <database name>     &
    Type SQLSERVER       &
    Owner <owner name>            &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "<server name>|<database name>@<userid>/<password>"

or

Database <database name>     &
    Type ODBC       &
    Owner <owner name>            &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "<server name>|<database name>@<userid>/<password>"

or

Database <database name>     &
    Type ODBC       &
    NULL VALUES ALLOWED &
    Open "<database name> &
    Userid "<userid>" &
    Password "<password>"

etc.

Blue

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Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01A668D9@BLISTEXEXC> Title: Axiant Developer - contract Location: Sydney Advertiser: TMP/Hudson Global Resources Date Posted: 26-07-2003 Description: Major Migration project Niche development area Our client is migrating a powerhouse system from a VAX/ Alpha based environment towards a wi... Get the full details of this job, here : Disclaimer: I know NOTHING about this job other than what is written above. Blue From tifre@wmdata.com Tue Jul 29 12:51:11 2003 From: tifre@wmdata.com (Frederiksen Tim) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:51:11 +0200 Subject: Jobs in Axiant. Message-ID: <00447476B925D51198E000508B6F0DDC010DF70D@WMSI000272> Hello, We are moving one application from PowerHouse to Axiant; the PowerHouse application is now running on an AIX. We want to execute the screens in Axiant on a windows2000 client and at the same time we want to execute the quiz and qtp programs on the AIX. Are there anyone whit in experience in running "jobs" on windows like on the Unix whit the AT command and is it possible to do so? Furthermore are there anyone who knows if or how you mix a thin and a fat client in Axiant. Regards, Tim Frederiksen From tifre@wmdata.com Tue Jul 29 13:40:33 2003 From: tifre@wmdata.com (Frederiksen Tim) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 14:40:33 +0200 Subject: Jobs in Axiant. Message-ID: <00447476B925D51198E000508B6F0DDC010DF70E@WMSI000272> My first question was not asked the right way, so i try again. Hello, We are moving one application from PowerHouse to Axiant; the PowerHouse application is now running on an AIX. We want to execute the screens in Axiant on a windows2000 client and at the same time we want to execute our jobs whith quiz, qtp and quick(in batch) programs on the AIX. Does anyone know how to execute the AT command from the Axiant cleint to the AIX platform. Furthermore are there anyone who knows if or how you mix a thin and a fat client in Axiant. Regards, Tim Frederiksen -----Original Message----- From: Frederiksen Tim Sent: 29. juli 2003 13:51 To: '' Subject: Jobs in Axiant. Hello, We are moving one application from PowerHouse to Axiant; the PowerHouse application is now running on an AIX. We want to execute the screens in Axiant on a windows2000 client and at the same time we want to execute the quiz and qtp programs on the AIX. Are there anyone whit in experience in running "jobs" on windows like on the Unix whit the AT command and is it possible to do so? Furthermore are there anyone who knows if or how you mix a thin and a fat client in Axiant. Regards, Tim Frederiksen From Robert.Edis@blistex.com Tue Jul 29 15:55:44 2003 From: Robert.Edis@blistex.com (Edis, Robert) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 09:55:44 -0500 Subject: DecisionStream gig in the UK Message-ID: <003EC701AC78D5119B180000D1EEC32C01A66B8E@BLISTEXEXC> I believe that DS is really an ADT tool rather than BI so I'm putting this one on the list for you. Job Title: Cognos DecisionStream Developer/Designer Salary: �450-�470/DAY Ltd Co Location: Bedfordshire Description: Business Intelligence Consultancy seeks an experienced and dynamic Cognos DecisionStream v 7.0 or v 7.1 Developer. Ideal candidate will have strong Cognos Development or Consultancy background, ideally with Cognos Impromptu & SQL Server 2000 experience. Duties include DecisionStream development projects as well as Datawarehouse updates, so any Methodology around Cognos DecisionStream would be an advantage, but not essential. Possible extension to contract with other Cognos projects coming through. SOME TRAVEL INVOLVED FROM BEDFORDSHIRE TO MIDLANDS For more information: http://www.cwjobs.co.uk/joblink.asp?JobID=9223074&GUID=2E6123D4E784102D57021 8FFA9BEF910 Disclaimer: I no nothing above the above job other than what's written there! Blue From shediac92@hotmail.com Tue Jul 29 20:18:28 2003 From: shediac92@hotmail.com (Peter Bateman) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:18:28 -0300 Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL Message-ID: Robert: The easiest I have found is to use Microsoft Network authenication instead of MS SQL Server authenication. It depends whether you need to distinguish the users at the database level or not. >From: "Edis, Robert" >To: "Powerh-L (E-mail)" >Subject: Declaring SQL Server databases in PDL >Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2003 13:56:06 -0500 > >G'day all > >It seems there are a number of ways to declare SQL Server databases in a >dictionary. For SQL Server 2000 what do y'all recommend? > >E.g. >Database & > Type SQLSERVER & > Owner & > NULL VALUES ALLOWED & > Open "|@/" > >or > >Database & > Type ODBC & > Owner & > NULL VALUES ALLOWED & > Open "|@/" > >or > >Database & > Type ODBC & > NULL VALUES ALLOWED & > Open " & > Userid "" & > Password "" > >etc. > >Blue > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to >powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 From henrydd@candw.lc Tue Jul 29 23:28:01 2003 From: henrydd@candw.lc (Desmond Dujon Henry) Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:28:01 -0400 Subject: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #737 - 1 msg References: <20030728112517.4114.35581.Mailman@cube.swau.edu> Message-ID: <003f01c35620$abc3bd60$0201a8c0@w7761.tjar.com> Hi Does anyone have a command procedure for OpenVMS which can recompile Powerhouse .qzs, .qts,.qks source code.I am now upgrading from pow 7.10G3 to Pow 8.30d . Pls explain how it works. I have tried the one below- qcompile.com but I get error messages. Thanks. $ ON CONTROL_Y THEN GOTO END $ ON ERROR THEN GOTO ERRFIN $ LOCATION = F$DIRECTORY() $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "PLS ENQ. THAT A VALID DIR HAS BEEN SEL " $ INQUIRE GETCH "ENTER TO CONTINUE, ^Y TO ABORT " $START $ INQUIRE RESPONSE "RECOM QUICK FLS , ENTER TO CONTIN , ^Y ABORTS " $ IF RESPONSE .NE. "" THEN GOTO START $ INQUIRE LOCATION "LOCATION OF FILES TO COMPILE" $ SET DEFAULT 'LOCATION' $ RESPONSE ="*.QKS" $ RESPONSES = LOCATION + RESPONSE $ ON CONTROL_Y THEN GOTO ERRFIN $ SET VER $ TEMPFILE = LOCATION + "TEMP_QKS_001.TMP" $ DIR '''responses'' /output = 'TEMPFILE' - /noheader - /brief - /columns=1 - /version=1 $READ_LOOP: $ OPEN/READ INFILE 'TEMPFILE' $ READ/END_OF_FILE=END INFILE RECORD_OF_INFILE $ CURR_REC = RECORD_OF_INFILE $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT CURR_REC $ QDESIGN AUTO ='''CURR_REC'' EXIT $ GOTO READ_LOOP $ERRFIN: $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "PROG TERM" $END: $ SET DEFAULT 'LOCATION' $! DELETE TEMP_QKS_001.TMP;* $ EXIT ----- Original Message ----- From: To: From Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Wed Jul 30 08:47:29 2003 From: Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk (Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 08:47:29 +0100 Subject: Compile all files Message-ID: <00A239FF.ABECFEFE.45@ccagroup.co.uk> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. It contains attachments for use on your PC/Mac. If you're reading this in VMS mail, and want it on your PC, type 'move newmail' now to move it back into your newmail folder, and then pick it up with your PC mail in the usual way --NextPart My powerhouse compilation routine isn't particularly portable, concerning itself with CMS, source directories, destination directories, naming conventions, and errors and warnings. 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If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. --NextPart Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="Saf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Saf.txt" $ v = 'f$verify(0)' $ if f$type(debug_saf).nes."" $ then $ sh sym/loc/all $ x = f$verify(1) $ endif $! Select All Files $! Author: John Devany, Editor of Global Pages - DECUS VMS SIG report $! This procedure from Feb 1991 edition $! $! P1 = command line $! P2 = wildcard spec $! P3 = verify (default TRUE) $! $! Enhanced to handle list of files as produced by find $! $ set noon $ saf_count = 0 $ if p3.eqs."" then $ p3 = 1 $ if p3 then $ p3 = 1 $ if .not.p3 then $ p3 = 0 $ if p2.eqs."" then $ p2 := *.* $ on error then $ goto donelist $ on control_y then $ goto donelist $ if f$extract(0,1,p2).nes."@" then $ goto loop $ p2 = p2 - "@" $ open list 'p2' $listloop: $ read/end=donelist list file $ if file.eqs."" then $ goto listloop $ name := 'f$parse(file,,,"name")' $ type := 'f$parse(file,,,"type")' $ namty := 'name''type' $ lonamty = f$edit(namty,"lowercase") $ saf_count = 'saf_count' + 1 $ define/nolog/user sys$input sys$command $ vx = f$verify(p3) $ 'p1' $ goto listloop ! 'f$verify(vx)' $! $loop: $ on error then $ goto loop $ file := 'f$search(p2,1)' $ if file.eqs."" then $ goto doneloop $ name := 'f$parse(file,,,"name")' $ type := 'f$parse(file,,,"type")' $ namty := 'name''type' $ lonamty = f$edit(namty,"lowercase") $ saf_count = saf_count + 1 $ define/nolog/user sys$input sys$command $ vx = f$verify(p3) $ 'p1' $ goto loop ! 'f$verify(vx)' $! $donelist:! 'f$verify(0)' $ if f$trnlnm("list").nes."" then $ close list $doneloop: saf_count == 'saf_count' $ exit 1+0*f$verify(v) --NextPart-- From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Wed Jul 30 11:28:10 2003 From: Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM (Deskin, Bob) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 06:28:10 -0400 Subject: KSAM locks vs C-ISAM locks Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35685.46289650 Content-Type: text/plain Set LOCK/NOLOCK is an MPE specific option based on how the file system (both MPE and KSAM files) works. SET LOCK says that the file open is such that it allows locking (i.e. locking enabled). However, this does not necessarily mean that the file is locked. SET NOLOCK says that the file open is such that it does not allow locking. The reason for this option is that opens in MPE must be consistent. In other words, if I open a file with locking enabled, then when you open the file, you must also have locking enabled. I know it may seem strange not to have locking enabled, but it is an MPE option. Other platforms do not need this option because the operating systems don't have the option. Locking is always enabled. As for the actual locking mechanisms, both KSAM and C-ISAM allow file level locks. C-ISAM also allows record level locks while KSAM does not. So unless you're using SET NOLOCK (because SET LOCK is the default) your KSAM locking should translate over to C-ISAM with no changes. Bob Deskin Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Jerry Finn [mailto:finnjj@telefonica.net] Sent: July 30, 2003 4:07 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: KSAM locks vs C-ISAM locks I'm trying to find the equivalent to SET LOCK/SET NOLOCK for MPE KSAM files for C-ISAM on UNIX. I'm working on a move from MPE to UNIX and we want to move the KSAM files to C-ISAM. How would I do locks with C-ISAM that I do for KSAM? -- Jerry Finn finnjj@telefonica.net = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. 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Set LOCK/NOLOCK is an MPE specific option based on = how the file system (both MPE and KSAM files) works. SET LOCK says that = the file open is such that it allows locking (i.e. locking enabled). = However, this does not necessarily mean that the file is locked. SET = NOLOCK says that the file open is such that it does not allow = locking.

The reason for this option is that opens in MPE must = be consistent. In other words, if I open a file with locking enabled, = then when you open the file, you must also have locking enabled. I know = it may seem strange not to have locking enabled, but it is an MPE = option.

Other platforms do not need this option because the = operating systems don't have the option. Locking is always = enabled.

As for the actual locking mechanisms, both KSAM and = C-ISAM allow file level locks. C-ISAM also allows record level locks = while KSAM does not.

So unless you're using SET NOLOCK (because SET LOCK = is the default) your KSAM locking should translate over to C-ISAM with = no changes.

Bob = Deskin           =
Product Manager, Application Development = Tools
Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 = CANADA
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268

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I'm trying to find the equivalent to SET LOCK/SET = NOLOCK for
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How would I do locks with C-ISAM that I do for = KSAM?

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C35685.46289650-- From henrydd@candw.lc Thu Jul 31 02:59:38 2003 From: henrydd@candw.lc (Desmond Dujon Henry) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 21:59:38 -0400 Subject: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #739 - 9 msgs References: <20030730112544.9468.48075.Mailman@cube.swau.edu> Message-ID: <00c701c35707$6626c3f0$0201a8c0@w7761.tjar.com> HI all I have 100 users on vms v7.3-1 using uic's [200,*] How can I make all of them use the same login.com? thanks From Valentin Likoum Thu Jul 31 05:05:10 2003 From: Valentin Likoum (Valentin Likoum) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 09:05:10 +0500 Subject: Compile all files: try again In-Reply-To: <00A23A06.B3326396.9@ccagroup.co.uk> References: <00A23A06.B3326396.9@ccagroup.co.uk> Message-ID: <1764154439.20030731090510@ncc.volga.ru> On 30.07.2003 Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk wrote: > I've been deluged with block messages, presumably because saf.com is perceived > as an executable by PC tools. > Here it is again, "Select all files", as a text file: use with VMS DCL by > renaming to saf.com - hopefully this will get through. > Example: @saf "quick auto='name' nolist" *.qks > Chris I found that MMK (or MMS) is very handy to maintain a heap of Q%S. "Compile all files" is "MMK/FROM_SOURCE". Contents of simple DESCRIP.MMS file: ------------------- Cut here -------------------------- .SUFFIXES : .QKC .QTC .QZC .QKS .QTS .QZS .qks.qkc : QDESIGN $(QDESIGNFLAGS) AUTO=$(MMS$SOURCE) .qts.qtc : QTP $(QTPFLAGS) AUTO=$(MMS$SOURCE) .qzs.qzc : QUIZ $(QUIZFLAGS) AUTO=$(MMS$SOURCE) PROCLOC = somedev:[somedir] QDESIGNFLAGS = PROCLOC=${PROCLOC} NOLIST QTPFLAGS = PROCLOC=$(PROCLOC) NOLIST QUIZFLAGS = PROCLOC=$(PROCLOC) NOLIST .INCLUDE qkclist.mms .INCLUDE qtclist.mms .INCLUDE qzclist.mms all : qkc, qtc, qzc qkc : $(QKCLIST) qtc : $(QTCLIST) qzc : $(QZCLIST) $(QZCLIST) : $(QKCLIST) : $(QTCLIST) : ------------------- Cut here -------------------------- Lists of QKC, QTC and QZC files to be rebuilt are included in the separate files qkclist.mms, qtclist.mms, qzclist.mms respectively. -- Valentin Likoum valentin.likoum at ncc dot volga dot ru From Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM Thu Jul 31 16:20:24 2003 From: Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM (Hamilton, Allison) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 11:20:24 -0400 Subject: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #739 - 9 msgs Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35777.43DAE6D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" There's a system wide login capability in earlier versions of OpenVMS, I assume that it's there for 7.3 as well. I think all you have to do is have a sylogin.com in (I think) sys$manager that everyone can read. -----Original Message----- From: Desmond Dujon Henry [mailto:henrydd@candw.lc] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 10:00 PM To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Subject: Re: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #739 - 9 msgs HI all I have 100 users on vms v7.3-1 using uic's [200,*] How can I make all of them use the same login.com? thanks = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35777.43DAE6D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #739 - 9 msgs
There's a system wide login capability in earlier = versions of OpenVMS, I assume that it's there for 7.3 as well. I = think all you have to do is have a sylogin.com in (I think) sys$manager = that everyone can read.

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To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu
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HI all

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C35777.43DAE6D0-- From markus.grossrieder@alba-systems.com Thu Jul 31 18:35:19 2003 From: markus.grossrieder@alba-systems.com (Markus Grossrieder) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:35:19 +0200 Subject: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #739 - 9 msgs References: <20030730112544.9468.48075.Mailman@cube.swau.edu> <00c701c35707$6626c3f0$0201a8c0@w7761.tjar.com> Message-ID: <014601c3578a$21cf4140$2601a8c0@albamarkusxp> Hi Desmond, you can modify the LGICMD with AUTHORIZE for all users (you will need the privileges to modify the system user authorization file, SYSUAF.DAT): $ set def sys$manager ! here is the SYSUAF.DAT file ! $ run SYS$SYSTEM:AUTHORIZE.EXE UAF> modif UserXY /LGICMD=DKA100:[yourdir]your_login.com UAF> e %UAF-I-DONEMSG, system authorization file modified %UAF-I-RDBNOMODS, no modifications made to rights database $ HTP, Markus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desmond Dujon Henry" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 3:59 AM Subject: Re: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #739 - 9 msgs > HI all > > I have 100 users on vms v7.3-1 using uic's [200,*] > > How can I make all of them use the same login.com? > thanks > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > From markus.grossrieder@alba-systems.com Thu Jul 31 18:38:29 2003 From: markus.grossrieder@alba-systems.com (Markus Grossrieder) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 19:38:29 +0200 Subject: Compile all files: try again References: <00A23A06.B3326396.9@ccagroup.co.uk> <1764154439.20030731090510@ncc.volga.ru> Message-ID: <015501c3578a$91fdd260$2601a8c0@albamarkusxp> Hi Valentin, > I found that MMK (or MMS) is very handy to maintain a heap of Q%S. what is MMK (or MMS) ? I hope that's not a completly stupid question ... Thanks, Markus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valentin Likoum" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:05 AM Subject: Re: Compile all files: try again > On 30.07.2003 Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk wrote: > > > I've been deluged with block messages, presumably because saf.com is perceived > > as an executable by PC tools. > > > Here it is again, "Select all files", as a text file: use with VMS DCL by > > renaming to saf.com - hopefully this will get through. > > > Example: @saf "quick auto='name' nolist" *.qks > > > Chris > > > I found that MMK (or MMS) is very handy to maintain a heap of Q%S. > "Compile all files" is "MMK/FROM_SOURCE". Contents of simple > DESCRIP.MMS file: > > ------------------- Cut here -------------------------- > .SUFFIXES : .QKC .QTC .QZC .QKS .QTS .QZS > > .qks.qkc : > QDESIGN $(QDESIGNFLAGS) AUTO=$(MMS$SOURCE) > > .qts.qtc : > QTP $(QTPFLAGS) AUTO=$(MMS$SOURCE) > > .qzs.qzc : > QUIZ $(QUIZFLAGS) AUTO=$(MMS$SOURCE) > > PROCLOC = somedev:[somedir] > > QDESIGNFLAGS = PROCLOC=${PROCLOC} NOLIST > QTPFLAGS = PROCLOC=$(PROCLOC) NOLIST > QUIZFLAGS = PROCLOC=$(PROCLOC) NOLIST > > > .INCLUDE qkclist.mms > .INCLUDE qtclist.mms > .INCLUDE qzclist.mms > > all : qkc, qtc, qzc > > qkc : $(QKCLIST) > > qtc : $(QTCLIST) > > qzc : $(QZCLIST) > > $(QZCLIST) : > > $(QKCLIST) : > > $(QTCLIST) : > ------------------- Cut here -------------------------- > > Lists of QKC, QTC and QZC files to be rebuilt are included in the > separate files qkclist.mms, qtclist.mms, qzclist.mms respectively. > > -- > Valentin Likoum > valentin.likoum at ncc dot volga dot ru > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > From Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM Thu Jul 31 18:48:06 2003 From: Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM (Hamilton, Allison) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 13:48:06 -0400 Subject: Compile all files: try again Message-ID: This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3578B.E617DCA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MMS is Module Management System, the OpenVMS build management product (sort of like make) often used with CMS, the Code Management System for source control. -----Original Message----- From: Markus Grossrieder [mailto:markus.grossrieder@alba-systems.com] Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:38 PM To: Valentin Likoum; powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Subject: Re: Compile all files: try again Hi Valentin, > I found that MMK (or MMS) is very handy to maintain a heap of Q%S. what is MMK (or MMS) ? I hope that's not a completly stupid question ... Thanks, Markus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Valentin Likoum" To: Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:05 AM Subject: Re: Compile all files: try again > On 30.07.2003 Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk wrote: > > > I've been deluged with block messages, presumably because saf.com is perceived > > as an executable by PC tools. > > > Here it is again, "Select all files", as a text file: use with VMS DCL by > > renaming to saf.com - hopefully this will get through. > > > Example: @saf "quick auto='name' nolist" *.qks > > > Chris > > > I found that MMK (or MMS) is very handy to maintain a heap of Q%S. > "Compile all files" is "MMK/FROM_SOURCE". Contents of simple > DESCRIP.MMS file: > > ------------------- Cut here -------------------------- > .SUFFIXES : .QKC .QTC .QZC .QKS .QTS .QZS > > .qks.qkc : > QDESIGN $(QDESIGNFLAGS) AUTO=$(MMS$SOURCE) > > .qts.qtc : > QTP $(QTPFLAGS) AUTO=$(MMS$SOURCE) > > .qzs.qzc : > QUIZ $(QUIZFLAGS) AUTO=$(MMS$SOURCE) > > PROCLOC = somedev:[somedir] > > QDESIGNFLAGS = PROCLOC=${PROCLOC} NOLIST > QTPFLAGS = PROCLOC=$(PROCLOC) NOLIST > QUIZFLAGS = PROCLOC=$(PROCLOC) NOLIST > > > .INCLUDE qkclist.mms > .INCLUDE qtclist.mms > .INCLUDE qzclist.mms > > all : qkc, qtc, qzc > > qkc : $(QKCLIST) > > qtc : $(QTCLIST) > > qzc : $(QZCLIST) > > $(QZCLIST) : > > $(QKCLIST) : > > $(QTCLIST) : > ------------------- Cut here -------------------------- > > Lists of QKC, QTC and QZC files to be rebuilt are included in the > separate files qkclist.mms, qtclist.mms, qzclist.mms respectively. > > -- > Valentin Likoum > valentin.likoum at ncc dot volga dot ru > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. Join us at Cognos' biggest event of the year Enterprise 2003, The Cognos Business Forum. Taking place in over 25 cities around the world, it's an opportunity for Business and IT leaders to learn about strategies for driving performance. Visit http://www.cognos.com/enterprise03 for more details. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3578B.E617DCA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Compile all files: try again
MMS is Module Management System, the OpenVMS build = management product (sort of like make) often used with CMS, the Code = Management System for source control.

-----Original Message-----
From: Markus Grossrieder [mailto:markus.grossr= ieder@alba-systems.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 1:38 PM
To: Valentin Likoum; powerh-l@cube.swau.edu
Subject: Re: Compile all files: try again

Hi Valentin,

>   I found that MMK (or MMS) is very = handy to maintain a heap of Q%S.

what is MMK (or MMS) ?

I hope that's not a completly stupid question = ...

Thanks, Markus

----- Original Message -----
From: "Valentin Likoum" = <valentin.likoum@ncc.volga.ru>
To: <powerh-l@cube.swau.edu>
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 6:05 AM
Subject: Re: Compile all files: try again

> On 30.07.2003 Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk = <Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> > I've been deluged with block messages, = presumably because saf.com is
perceived
> > as an executable by PC tools.
>
> > Here it is again, "Select all = files", as a text file: use with VMS DCL
by
> > renaming to saf.com - hopefully this will = get through.
>
> > Example: @saf "quick auto=3D'name' = nolist" *.qks
>
> > Chris
>
>
>   I found that MMK (or MMS) is very = handy to maintain a heap of Q%S.
> "Compile all files" is = "MMK/FROM_SOURCE". Contents of simple
> DESCRIP.MMS file:
>
> ------------------- Cut here = --------------------------
> .SUFFIXES : .QKC .QTC .QZC .QKS .QTS = .QZS
>
> .qks.qkc :
>         = QDESIGN $(QDESIGNFLAGS) AUTO=3D$(MMS$SOURCE)
>
> .qts.qtc :
>         = QTP $(QTPFLAGS) AUTO=3D$(MMS$SOURCE)
>
> .qzs.qzc :
>         = QUIZ $(QUIZFLAGS) AUTO=3D$(MMS$SOURCE)
>
> PROCLOC =3D somedev:[somedir]
>
> QDESIGNFLAGS =3D PROCLOC=3D${PROCLOC} = NOLIST
> QTPFLAGS =3D PROCLOC=3D$(PROCLOC) NOLIST
> QUIZFLAGS =3D PROCLOC=3D$(PROCLOC) = NOLIST
>
>
> .INCLUDE qkclist.mms
> .INCLUDE qtclist.mms
> .INCLUDE qzclist.mms
>
> all : qkc, qtc, qzc
>
> qkc : $(QKCLIST)
>
> qtc : $(QTCLIST)
>
> qzc : $(QZCLIST)
>
> $(QZCLIST) :
>
> $(QKCLIST) :
>
> $(QTCLIST) :
> ------------------- Cut here = --------------------------
>
>   Lists of QKC, QTC and QZC files to = be rebuilt are included in the
> separate files qkclist.mms, qtclist.mms, = qzclist.mms respectively.
>
> --
>   Valentin Likoum
>   valentin.likoum at ncc dot volga = dot ru
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C3578B.E617DCA0-- From Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au Thu Jul 31 23:52:48 2003 From: Fernando.Olmos@alcoa.com.au (Olmos, Fernando (Sericon at Alcoa)) Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 06:52:48 +0800 Subject: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #739 - 9 msgs Message-ID: Give them all access to single folder (perhaps under the same UIC, and put an @RUNCOMMONLOGIN.COM in their individual LOGIN.COM. > -----Original Message----- > From: Desmond Dujon Henry [mailto:henrydd@candw.lc] > Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 12:00 PM > To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu > Subject: Re: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #739 - 9 msgs > > > HI all > > I have 100 users on vms v7.3-1 using uic's [200,*] > > How can I make all of them use the same login.com? > thanks >