HP3000 Migration Statistics

[Jonathan M. Backus]

Richard,

	The PA-RISC hardware is being eclipsed.  Problem is that is the chip set
that MPE runs on.  So, there are only a handful of options:

1)	Port MPE to IA-64:  Isn't going to happen by HP.  Conceivably it could be
done by a group of 3rd party resources but it would be expensive, time
consuming, and there is a relatively small pool of companies to cover the
costs.

2)	Move on to another processor chip set by moving away from MPE.  The old
"HP migrate" line which many companies will do, but many others would prefer
not to.

3)	Create an environment on another chip set, such as IA-64 (and others
going forward), that will emulate the PA-RISC instruction set to the point
that the MPE/iX operating system (and add-ons, utilities, and applications)
are completely unaware that it is not running on "natural PA-RISC" hardware.

	This option #3 is real and is being investigate by at least two companies,
SRI and Allegro.  SRI currently has a similar sort of emulator that runs
VMS.

Thanx,
	Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Witkopp, Richard
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:12 PM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: HP3000 Migration Statistics


PA-RISC emulator? I thought that was a dying technology too.
To be replaced by Merced, I mean Itanium, someday.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jonathan M. Backus [mailto:JMBackus@TechGroupMD.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:44 AM
> To: 'Ha, Luan (AD)'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> Subject: RE: HP3000 Migration Statistics
>
>
> Laun,
>
> 	I can speak a little bit to the last option you
> mentioned.  There is an organization called OpenMPE which is
> setup as a co-op (member owned).  Right now there are no
> membership dues and pretty much any end user or vendor that
> participates in the  OpenMPE discussion group and activities
> is considered part of the community.  The OpenMPE Board of
> Directors has been working with the vendor community to
> coordinate "virtual" groups that would be interested in
> taking over specific aspects of the support and/or
> development of MPE (including Image and the various HP
> sub-systems).  The OpenMPE BoD had conducted surveys of end
> users to determine the desires of the community.  It has been
> working closely with HP to turn these desires into reality.
> HP had a reasonably impressive list of announcements and
> accomplishments that they presented at the OpenMPE session of
> HP World, including the early stages of enabling companies to
> create a PA-RISC emulator to eventually replace the HP
> hardware currently used to run MPE.  One company, Software
> Resources International (RSI), has already announced to the
> OpenMPE community their intentions of moving forward with the
> research into the emulator.  Another company, Allegro, has
> expressed strong interest and desire to do the same.
>
> 	More information, details, the OpenMPE discussion group
> (including archives) can be found on the web site (www.OpenMPE.org).
>
> Thanx,
> 	Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu
> [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Ha, Luan (AD)
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:27 AM
> To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> Subject: HP3000 Migration Statistics
>
>
>
> By now there would be quite a few companies have migrated away from
> HP3000. It would be interested to know what sort of
> percentage or number
> have migrate to a particular platform such as HP9000,
> PowerhouseWeb, .NET etc.
>
> How many companies have decided to do nothing and continue to
> depend on
> the HP3000 impressive & reliable track record ?
>
> What is the possibility of another company taking over the
> support and development
> of HP3000 beyond 2006 ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Luan
>
>
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