This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2753B.3AB8BFF4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hmmm. Interesting - Harsh physical environments! Which system would be more likely to survive a drop off a one, two, or = three or more story building? How harsh of an environment are we talking here? Come on John, I know you'll bite on this one. Richard Sheehan -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:28 AM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: RE: HP3000 Migration Statistics Ok, I'll bite. What makes the HP3000/MPE combo soooo "impressive & reliable"? Is it the HP3000 hardware? Is it MPE? Is it Image? Does a HP3000 machine running UNIX have the same "impressive & reliable track record"? Does a HP3000/MPE combo running against an Oracle RDBMS have the same "impressive & reliable track record"? Where are the objective statistics/benchmarks that prove such an = "impressive & reliable track record"? How does the HP3000/MPE/Image combo actually compare with other server combos used in the same or similar circumstances? E.g. high volume data processing, harsh physical environments (mining), etc. What is the TOC (Total Cost of Ownership) of a HP3000/MPE/Image combo compared with alternatives? Just stirring to pot, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan M. Backus To: 'Ha, Luan (AD)'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Sent: 10/16/2002 5:43 AM Subject: RE: HP3000 Migration Statistics Laun, I can speak a little bit to the last option you mentioned. There is an organization called OpenMPE which is setup as a co-op (member owned). Right now there are no membership dues and pretty much any end user or vendor that participates in the OpenMPE discussion group and activities is considered part of the community. The OpenMPE Board of Directors has been working with the vendor community to coordinate "virtual" groups that would be interested in taking over specific aspects of the support and/or development of MPE (including Image and the various HP sub-systems). The OpenMPE BoD had conducted surveys of end users to determine the desires of the community. It has been working closely with HP to turn these desires into reality. HP had a reasonably impressive list of announcements and accomplishments that they presented at the OpenMPE session of HP World, including the early stages of enabling companies to create a PA-RISC emulator to eventually replace the HP hardware currently used to run MPE. One company, Software Resources International (RSI), has already announced to the OpenMPE community their intentions of moving forward with the research into the emulator. Another company, Allegro, has expressed strong interest and desire to do the same. More information, details, the OpenMPE discussion group (including archives) can be found on the web site (www.OpenMPE.org). Thanx, Jon -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Ha, Luan (AD) Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:27 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: HP3000 Migration Statistics By now there would be quite a few companies have migrated away from HP3000. It would be interested to know what sort of percentage or number have migrate to a particular platform such as HP9000, PowerhouseWeb, .NET etc. How many companies have decided to do nothing and continue to depend on the HP3000 impressive & reliable track record ? What is the possibility of another company taking over the support and development of HP3000 beyond 2006 ? Regards, Luan =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D = =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D = =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to = powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to = powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2753B.3AB8BFF4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">Re: HP3000 Migration Statistics Hmmm. Interesting - Harsh physical = environments!
Which system would be more likely to survive a drop = off a one, two, or three or more story building?
How harsh of an environment are we talking = here?
Come on John, I know you'll bite on this one.
Richard Sheehan
-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:28 AM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
Subject: RE: HP3000 Migration Statistics
Ok, I'll bite.
What makes the HP3000/MPE combo soooo "impressive = & reliable"?
Is it the HP3000 hardware?
Is it MPE?
Is it Image?Does a HP3000 machine running UNIX have the same = "impressive & reliable
track record"?
Does a HP3000/MPE combo running against an Oracle = RDBMS have the same
"impressive & reliable track = record"?Where are the objective statistics/benchmarks that = prove such an "impressive
& reliable track record"?How does the HP3000/MPE/Image combo actually compare = with other server
combos used in the same or similar = circumstances? E.g. high volume data
processing, harsh physical environments (mining), = etc.What is the TOC (Total Cost of Ownership) of a = HP3000/MPE/Image combo
compared with alternatives?Just stirring to pot,
Blue
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan M. Backus
To: 'Ha, Luan (AD)'; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Sent: 10/16/2002 5:43 AM
Subject: RE: HP3000 Migration StatisticsLaun,
I can speak = a little bit to the last option you mentioned.
There is an organization called OpenMPE which is = setup as a co-op
(member owned). Right now there are no = membership dues and pretty much
any end user or vendor that participates in the = OpenMPE discussion
group and activities is considered part of the = community. The OpenMPE
Board of Directors has been working with the vendor = community to
coordinate "virtual" groups that would be = interested in taking over
specific aspects of the support and/or development of = MPE (including
Image and the various HP sub-systems). The = OpenMPE BoD had conducted
surveys of end users to determine the desires of the = community. It has
been working closely with HP to turn these desires = into reality. HP had
a reasonably impressive list of announcements and = accomplishments that
they presented at the OpenMPE session of HP World, = including the early
stages of enabling companies to create a PA-RISC = emulator to eventually
replace the HP hardware currently used to run = MPE. One company,
Software Resources International (RSI), has already = announced to the
OpenMPE community their intentions of moving forward = with the research
into the emulator. Another company, Allegro, = has expressed strong
interest and desire to do the same.More = information, details, the OpenMPE discussion group
(including archives) can be found on the web site = (www.OpenMPE.org).Thanx,
Jon-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.s= wau.edu]On Behalf Of Ha, Luan (AD)
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:27 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: HP3000 Migration Statistics
By now there would be quite a few companies have = migrated away from
HP3000. It would be interested to know what sort of = percentage or number
have migrate to a particular platform such as HP9000, = PowerhouseWeb,
.NET etc.How many companies have decided to do nothing and = continue to depend on
the HP3000 impressive & reliable track record = ?What is the possibility of another company taking over = the support and
development
of HP3000 beyond 2006 ?Regards,
Luan
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