Upgrade questions
Witkopp, Richard
Richard.Witkopp@idt.com
Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:09:10 -0700
CDD worked very well for us, but we only used RMS files.
I never noticed any slowness like you describe - maybe
somebody did tune ours. We even used it with the Datatrieve
query tool, which was a terrific tool if you had knowledgeable
users like we had.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 12:34 AM
> To: PowerH List
> Subject: RE: Upgrade questions
>
>
>
> It was called CDD, and was sold off along with Rdb, which it
> was based on.
> We gave up on it at that point, and have been happily using
> DEC's freeware
> product ever since (SDL) - covers all the same languages, and has a
> documented interface for extending it to more (I added DECforms ifdl).
>
> CDD was always an awful product - an unbelievable
> demonstration of how bad a
> database can be - with just a few hundred items in the db,
> operations could
> take minutes - I presumed it was a tuning problem, but I
> never really knew -
> we didn't have the rdb skills or licences, so just had to use
> it out of the
> box.
>
> Chris
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:richard.witkopp@idt.com]
> > Sent: 11 June 2002 18:40
> > To: christina.hasse@cognos.com; bedis@usbnc.org
> > Cc: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> > Subject: RE: Upgrade questions
> >
> >
> > It was for more than Cobol. You could generate
> > definitions for DEC's integrated dictionary that
> > interfaced with several DEC languages. I can't remember
> > what it's called, haven't used it in 7 or 8 years.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hasse, Christina [mailto:Christina.Hasse@COGNOS.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 10:13 AM
> > > To: 'Edis, Bob'
> > > Cc: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
> > > Subject: RE: Upgrade questions
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Bob,
> > >
> > > It was used to integrate Cobol with PowerHouse. You
> could create copy
> > > libraries from PowerHouse and vice-versa. The only problem
> > > with it was that
> > > from Cobol to PowerHouse, you did not get the indexing,
> > > because the Cobol
> > > copy libraries don't contain that information.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Christina Hasse
> > > ADT North American Technical Manager
> > > COGNOS CORPORATION
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> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 1:09 PM
> > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail)
> > > Subject: RE: Upgrade questions
> > >
> > >
> > > What is PHIntegrator?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hamilton, Allison [mailto:Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 11:20 AM
> > > To: 'Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX'; 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
> > > Subject: RE: Upgrade questions
> > >
> > >
> > > VMS symbol and logical support has been in 8.xx for awhile.
> > > POW dictionary
> > > support is in 8.30 and above. PowerHouse 8.30 supports both
> > > PDC and POW(PHD)
> > > dictionaries. There was a list posted here awhile ago of all
> > > the VMSisms
> > > that we ported into the 8.30 code stream from the 7.10 one.
> > > We ported over
> > > as much as we could find with the exception of AllInOne and
> > > RMS Journalling
> > > support and PhIntegrator. PHIntegrator is currently under
> > > investigation for
> > > inclusion. I think that you will find that PowerHouse 8.30
> > > is much more
> > > OpenVMS friendly than 8.20 was. There are some differences
> > > in behaviour,
> > > and we have documented as many of those as we know of in the
> > > Release Notes
> > > for 8.30, for those that were a concern we have provided an
> > > option to get
> > > the 7.10 behaviour in 8.30 if needed.
> > >
> > > If you are supported, you should be receiving 8.30D in the
> > > near future, if
> > > you have not already, and you can read the Release Notes
> to get more
> > > information.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX
> > > [mailto:Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 12:06 PM
> > > To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
> > > Subject: RE: Upgrade questions
> > >
> > >
> > > What about VMS symbol support; POW dictionary support;
> etc...? We are
> > > currently using 710g1 because these functions were lost in
> > > the so-called
> > > "improved" version of PH.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hamilton, Allison [mailto:Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 6:40 AM
> > > To: 'Hoppe, Eric EP'; 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
> > > Subject: RE: Upgrade questions
> > >
> > >
> > > PowerHouse 8.30x is built on OpenVMS version 6.2 and
> > > certified against 7.2.
> > > Mailbox support is in 8.30x and above.
> > > 8.40x is built against OpenVMS 7.2
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Hoppe, Eric EP [mailto:Eric.Hoppe@steelscape-inc.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 11:37 AM
> > > To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
> > > Subject: Upgrade questions
> > >
> > >
> > > All-
> > >
> > > We currently have: OpenVMS 7.1, UCX Ver 4.1 - ECO 9 on an
> > > AlphaServer 4000
> > > using PH 7.10G1. Our current setup is working great, but we
> > > are starting to
> > > get hints from Compaq it is time to upgrade.
> > >
> > > I am under the impression in order to go to PH 8.x we need to
> > > upgrade to UCX
> > > 5. I am also under the impression that UCX 5 does not
> support the RMS
> > > mailbox function which we use heavily. I also think PH
> 8.x requires a
> > > higher ver of operating system.
> > >
> > > Before I start opening trouble tickets with the vendors, I
> > > thought I would
> > > fish out here in the ether for comments from anyone who has
> > > been through
> > > this already.
> > >
> > > Thanks and I hope there is enough info in this msg.
> > >
> > > ---ehops
> > >
> > > Eric Hoppe
> > > Steelscape, Inc.
> > > Senior Systems Analyst
> > > 360.673.8247
> > >
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