PowerHouse.Net
Sam DeLeese
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Tue, 4 Jun 2002 09:59:26 -0700 (PDT)
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I think maybe what Bruce was getting at, is the high cost of the product and support. We all know that Cognos is not going to give Powerhouse Web (Powerhouse.Net) away for free, as Microsoft does with ASP.NET. But, if the cost for the product and support was more reasonable, and the product was marketed with the zeal of Powerplay, the market share for PHWeb would probably climb considerably. Maybe Cognos should consider giving PHWeb to existing Powerhouse customers for 1/4 of the full market price, or better yet, just give it the installed base. Microsoft gives Explorer away for "free" and it is now the market leader. Microsoft is giving ASP.NET for free, and soon, I believe, will be the number one development tool for the web (if you haven't looked at yet, take a look at, read a book on it, it is really good - but maybe not better than PHWeb!). Imagine if Cognos gave PHWeb away to there installed Powerhouse base, and only half of the base began development with it. !
That would be quite a lot of development. And the more customers develop with it, the more it is discussed, the more exposure it gets, the more development would be done with it. Maybe, if Cognos is lucky, there entire PH base will continue to be customers using PHWeb. Wouldn't that be nice. But, alas, it won't happen I fear. Cognos has always charged large sums of money for the product and even more for the support. So, much so, that the costs involved have always been a bone of contention with management at almost every place that I have worked.
"Deskin, Bob" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com> wrote: @font-face { font-family: Tahoma;}P.MsoNormal { FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt}LI.MsoNormal { FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt}DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman"; FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt}A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial}DIV.Section1 { page: Section1}What does this mean? The next release of PowerHouse on NT will have QUICK running in a command box. So all those PowerHouse PC people will be able to upgrade to series 8. We have PowerHouse Web. What is PowerHouse.Net? And is it compatible with legacy PowerHouse systems the way Axiant and PowerHouse Web are. It's all very nice to create a !
new tool, but our customers want it all. They want to move to new technology but they don't want to loose what they have.
Bob Deskin
PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178
3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
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From: Bruce Schuck [mailto:Bruce@Schuck.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:02 PM
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Subject: RE: IS PowerHouse Dead
It’s time for Powerhouse.Net !!!
I remember when PC Powerhouse came out. Cognos positioned and priced it as a product to offload develop from minicomputers so it was around $2000 canadian. If they had priced it at the same level of Dbase they might have owned that market.
It shouldn’t be that hard to . enable quick and quiz.
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<P> I think maybe what Bruce was getting at, is the high cost of the product and support. We all know that Cognos is not going to give Powerhouse Web (Powerhouse.Net) away for free, as Microsoft does with ASP.NET. But, if the cost for the product and support was more reasonable, and the product was marketed with the zeal of Powerplay, the market share for PHWeb would probably climb considerably. Maybe Cognos should consider giving PHWeb to existing Powerhouse customers for 1/4 of the full market price, or better yet, just give it the installed base. Microsoft gives Explorer away for "free" and it is now the market leader. Microsoft is giving ASP.NET for free, and soon, I believe, will be the number one development tool for the web (if you haven't looked at yet, take a look at, read a book on it, it is really good - but maybe not better than PHWeb!). Imagine if Cognos gave PHWeb away to there installed Powerhouse base, and only half of the !
base began development with it. That would be quite a lot of development. And the more customers develop with it, the more it is discussed, the more exposure it gets, the more development would be done with it. Maybe, if Cognos is lucky, there entire PH base will continue to be customers using PHWeb. Wouldn't that be nice. But, alas, it won't happen I fear. Cognos has always charged large sums of money for the product and even more for the support. So, much so, that the costs involved have always been a bone of contention with management at almost every place that I have worked.
<P> <B><I>"Deskin, Bob" <Bob.Deskin@cognos.com></I></B> wrote:
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=804301616-04062002>What does this mean?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=804301616-04062002>The next release of PowerHouse on NT will have QUICK running in a command box. So all those PowerHouse PC people will be able to upgrade to series 8.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=804301616-04062002>We have PowerHouse Web.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=804301616-04062002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=804301616-04062002>What is PowerHouse.Net? And is it compatible with legacy PowerHouse systems the way Axiant and PowerHouse Web are. It's all very nice to create a new tool, but our customers want it all. They want to move to new technology but they don't want to loose what they have.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<P><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bob Deskin </FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools, Cognos Inc.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 FAX: (613) 727-1178</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA</FONT> </P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV align=left class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Bruce Schuck [mailto:Bruce@Schuck.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 04, 2002 12:02 PM<BR><B>To:</B> powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: IS PowerHouse Dead<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">It’s time for Powerhouse.Net !!!</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">I remember when PC Powerhouse came out. Cognos positioned and priced it as a product to offload develop from minicomputers so it was around $2000 canadian. If they had priced it at the same level of Dbase they might have owned that market.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT color=navy face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">It shouldn’t be that hard to . enable quick and quiz.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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