Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of)

[Witkopp, Richard]

Compaq didn't exactly "give" it away, they were paid.
Some may say too little, but they didn't want to enrich
the lawyers any further, so it was the path of least
resistance. There's been Alpha technology in Merced
from the beginning. For that matter, there's Alpha technology
in the Pentium.

I didn't say there was explicit x86 code, but that there's
a migration path. My understanding is that's why it's so hard
to get it working, considering DEC, Sun, HP, and others have
had 64 bit for awhile.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:59 PM
> To: PowerHouse List (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results 
> - sort of)
> 
> 
> It's not quite that straight forward.  I believe Intel was 
> having a hard
> time getting it right developing a 64bit CPU.  Compaq gave 
> away all the
> intellectual property for the Alpha plus virtually the whole Alpha
> engineering team to Intel a year or so ago.  So the Itanium that will
> actually be released will have alpha technology in it and no 
> explicit X86
> code.  For that matter no explicit VAX code probably either.  
> Backwards
> compatibility will be handled by emulation I think.
> 
> The last I heard the team that is porting OpenVMS to the 
> Itanium is right on
> schedule for a 2003 (late) release.
> 
> Blue
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:10 PM
> To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)'
> Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results 
> - sort of)
> 
> 
> It can't be that much of a snap - they've been working
> on it for over a year.
> 
> I can't see where the microcode of the Itanium (which is
> supposed to have a migration path from x86) would be much
> like the Alpha (which has a migration path from VAX).
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:01 AM
> > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)'
> > Cc: Witkopp, Richard
> > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results 
> > - sort of)
>  
> > It has also
> > been suggested that the port of OpenVMS to IA64 isn't such a 
> > big deal since
> > most of the tough grunt work was done moving from VAX to Alpha.
>  
> 
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