Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of)

Byron Welch bwelch@cox.net
Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:06:15 -0400


I would second Rick's thoughts on this issue.  I have seen a number of shops
go to Unix in the last couple of years.

Byron Welch
Independent Consultant
Providence, RI

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Hill" <rmhill@core.com>
To: "Olson, Ingemar" <IOlson@saputo.com>; <powerh-l@lists.swau.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of)


> Hello, Ingemar --
>
> I've consulted for quite a few years in Powerhouse environments on both
> VMS and Unix platforms.  I think the majority of Powerhouse sites on
> VMS these days are legacy, where there is no perceived major benefit to
> doing an upgrade like that.  These apps are either getting replaced by
> packages, re-written in newer technology, or not being enhanced.  This
> may explain the low level of response.
>
> The pattern I have seen in the states is that if a VMS Powerhouse app
> is going to be enhanced or used in the medium-range, it is being
> migrated to Unix so it can run efficiently on hardware with a future
> and against a database such as Oracle.  This also is a good first step
> to stage it better for being re-written eventually in client-server
> technology.
>
> All the best...
>
> Rick Hill
> Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A.
>
> > On August 8th I wrote:
> >
> > > There has been very little discussion on this group about
> > > upgrades to 8.30.
> > >
> > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one
> > > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide
> > > leads me to suspect that it may be the former.
> > >
> > > How about it folks?
> > > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans?
> > >
> > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in.
> > >
> > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS
> > > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course
> > > what I'm most interested in hearing.
> >
> > Surprisingly (to me) I only got a handful of responses (5) and since
> > it's been a while since the last one I don't expect any more now.
> >
> > And the summary:
> > o Only 1 person had actually gone to 8.30, and had no major glitches.
> > o Two people had gone to intermediate versions (8,10, 8.20) and both
> >   had negative comments ("struggling without POW", "very painful")
> >   although the latter (at least) is proceeding to 8.30.
> > o One person is intending to, but is not in a rush.
> > o One person has no plans to upgrade (system on life-support).
> >
> > In other words, the complete gamut!
> >
> > However, I can't believe there are only 6 VMS / Powerhouse shops out
> > there. Did I not ask the right question? No-one working in the summer?
> >
> > If anyone else would like to comment, even if your situation doesn't
> > exactly match that in my question, I will re-summarize the results.
> >
> > Ingemar Olson
> >
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