Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of)

[Edis, Bob]

G'day Rick

I have to take objection to some of your remarks.

1. what do you mean by "run efficiently on hardware with a future"?  I
believe the Itanium 64 bit processor will be the leading CPU for systems for
year to come.
2. At least two models of Oracle databases run on OpenVMS.  Plus Oracle
applications also run on OpenVMS.
3. C/S technology is so 1970s! :)

Regards,
Blue

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Hill [mailto:rmhill@core.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:56 AM
To: Olson, Ingemar; 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
Subject: Re: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of)


Hello, Ingemar --

I've consulted for quite a few years in Powerhouse environments on both 
VMS and Unix platforms.  I think the majority of Powerhouse sites on 
VMS these days are legacy, where there is no perceived major benefit to 
doing an upgrade like that.  These apps are either getting replaced by 
packages, re-written in newer technology, or not being enhanced.  This 
may explain the low level of response.

The pattern I have seen in the states is that if a VMS Powerhouse app 
is going to be enhanced or used in the medium-range, it is being 
migrated to Unix so it can run efficiently on hardware with a future 
and against a database such as Oracle.  This also is a good first step 
to stage it better for being re-written eventually in client-server 
technology.

All the best...

Rick Hill
Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A.

> On August 8th I wrote:
> 
> > There has been very little discussion on this group about 
> > upgrades to 8.30.
> >
> > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one 
> > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide 
> > leads me to suspect that it may be the former.
> >
> > How about it folks? 
> > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans?
> >
> > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in.
> >
> > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS 
> > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course 
> > what I'm most interested in hearing.
> 
> Surprisingly (to me) I only got a handful of responses (5) and since
> it's been a while since the last one I don't expect any more now.
> 
> And the summary:
> o Only 1 person had actually gone to 8.30, and had no major glitches.
> o Two people had gone to intermediate versions (8,10, 8.20) and both 
>   had negative comments ("struggling without POW", "very painful") 
>   although the latter (at least) is proceeding to 8.30.
> o One person is intending to, but is not in a rush.
> o One person has no plans to upgrade (system on life-support).
> 
> In other words, the complete gamut!
> 
> However, I can't believe there are only 6 VMS / Powerhouse shops out
> there. Did I not ask the right question? No-one working in the summer?
> 
> If anyone else would like to comment, even if your situation doesn't
> exactly match that in my question, I will re-summarize the results.
> 
> Ingemar Olson
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