International Perspective (was: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football /Soccer Chatter)

[george.j.wen@us.abb.com]

I don't know about India, but a short stint in Russia sounds
interesting.

I want to steer the conversation back to ADT as well but I can't resist
a couple of comments.  I'm a
naturalized citizen of the US.  Not that that gives me any greater
knowledge but maybe a bit of
perspective.  I have heard this about people outside the US having a
"better world view" for a long
time now but it didn't stop the German people from embracing Hitler and
didn't stop the US from
joining the war and ushering in the Marshall plan to get countries back
on their feet.  What matters
is the ideals and actions of a people.  Not that we're perfect - by any
standard.  If a country has a
"better" world view that's the result of someone agenda what good is
it??  Yes our educational
system needs to emphasize world politics more and so does out media but
how do you do it?
The media cares about ratings not the general knowledge level of
politics by the citizenry.  So
what do we do.  Let's start a grass roots world movement that will save
the environment, control
population, and end war and poverty.  I really wish we could but we'll
all probably just keep
drinking beer and watching the game (football of course - go Packers).

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Thank you Richard, you demonstrated a point I want to make.

There are 130+ million sheep in Australia (not sure how many in NZ) but
Australia's and perhaps New Zealand's biggest foreign export is NOT
wool/mutton or Fosters but services!  After services comes mining
resources
and then manufactured goods (might be the other way round).  Oz hasn't
relied on agriculture as the mainstay of its economy for over 40 years.

You're right, we can live without Fosters beer (made in Canada) and
sheep's
wool, but not the other stuff.

By the way, how can we steer this conversation back to a Cognos ADT
perspective?  How the different regions of the world dealing with the
downturn in the IT economy?  Are Cognos' sales doing better or worse in
different places?

I've actually started to see ads for Cognos expertise (BI and ADT)
required
in India!  What about Russia and Eastern Europe?  Have the ADT tools
managed
to expand there?

Regards,
Blue

-----Original Message-----
From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:05 PM
To: PowerHouse List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter


I don't think that's it at all. We're mostly worried about
stuff that can ruin our day. Unrest in the middle east?
Oil prices go up. Instability in Central or South America?
Oil again, and we got too many big loans out to those
countries. Problems in Australia? Who cares? We can live
without Foster's and sheeps wool.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ohmes, Matt [mailto:Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:54 AM
> To: PowerHouse List (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter
>
>
> Hi Blue,
>
> You said:
>
> >>> snip >>>>
> I agree with much of what you said.  However, how do you
> explain that the
> average European, Asian, Australasian or even Canadian has a
> much better
> 'world' view (geopolitical awareness) than the average American?  I've
> experienced this time and again has I traveled around the world.
> <<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> But that was the whole point. :-) Power, influence, and
> visibility tend to
> make any group think the world revolves around them.
>
> You will ALWAYS see more "balanced" reporting from the middle of the
> power/visibility spectrum than the top. An elephant in a room
> with 10 cats
> will notice the cats but won't pay them much attention.  The cats will
> notice each other much more than the elephant does. ;-)
>
> Over assigning self-importance because of power and
> visibility is a HUMAN
> character flaw, not an American one.  We're aware of it and
> most of us try
> to resist.  But it's also a human trait to vilify others who
> are powerful
> and influential, isn't it? ;-)
>
> I'm just saying that we're all human and in similar
> circumstances, as a
> collective group, we all behave the same. Individually, we
> just do the best
> we can.
>
> Matt :-)
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