Changing Operation systems
Jonathan M. Backus
JMBackus@TechGroupMD.com
Thu, 27 Sep 2001 06:04:28 -0400
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Adam,
Have you considered going to the HP e3000? The full Powerhouse 4GL
family is there and the native Image database system has both ODBC and JDBC
access. In fact, there is an ODBC driver bundled with the operating system,
as well as the Apache server and fully current and compliant Java.
Thanx,
Jon
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From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On
Behalf Of Adam Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:33 PM
To: Powerhouse List (E-mail)
Subject: Changing Operation systems
Thanks to all who have responded
We are reviewing the info we have received, and may ask more questions
later.
The reason we are looking at moving is we require ODBC and/or JDBC access to
the data for 2 way access for web pages.
Interbase 4 does not have ODBC access, whereas Interbase 6 or Sybase will
give this.
Apparently Interbase 6 will not work with Powerhouse (I think ver5.5 was
last supported - does it have ODBC?)
So Sybase is currently our best option (we already own it as well)
(Linux was just an option put forward by our network guy)
Again, Thanks for the info from you all. I have a lot of research to do.
Adam Robertson
Computer Systems Officer
University of Sydney, Orange
Phone: 02 6360 5967 Fax: 02 6360 5590
mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au
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From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On
Behalf Of Blue
Sent: Thursday, 27 September 2001 0:24 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: Changing Operation systems
G'day Adam
Question: WHY?
Response: there is a consultant in California who posted some messages on
the PowerHouse new group on the Cognos web site who said he had about 60
customers running PowerHouse 7.?? on Linux quite successfully. He used the
SCO version with virtually no modifications. He also said he was having
some problems with the 8.?? version on Linux but expected to work them out.
Cognos does NOT support this install and this consultant provides is own
support to his clients.
The only reason I can see why you would want to make such a move is that U
of Sydney must be hard up for money. 64 bit to 32 bit, alpha to Intel,
performance and reliability wise it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Why not go Windows NT and PowerHouse Web or Axiant 3.0?
Good luck,
Blue
-----Original Message-----
From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Adam Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:41 AM
To: Powerhouse List (E-mail)
Subject: Changing Operation systems
We have Powerhouse ver 8.13d, with Interbase 4 as the database running
on Compaq Tru64 ver4.0f (on an Alpha box).
We are looking at moving to Interbase 6 or Sybase, updating our version
of PowerHouse and moving to another operating system.
We know that Interbase 6 or Sybase will run on Linux.
My question is:
Is anyone running Powerhouse on Linux? (will it run there?)
Any comments on its performance etc.?
Which version and flavour of linux would be recommended? (we have RedHat
already.)
Thanks
Adam Robertson
Computer Systems Officer
University of Sydney, Orange
Phone: 02 6360 5967 Fax: 02 6360 5590
mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D570230210-27092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Adam,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D570230210-27092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D570230210-27092001> <FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Have you considered going to the HP =
e3000? The full=20
Powerhouse 4GL family is there and the native Image database system has =
both=20
ODBC and JDBC access. In fact, there is an ODBC driver bundled =
with the=20
operating system, as well as the Apache server and fully current and =
compliant=20
Java.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D570230210-27092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D570230210-27092001><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Thanx,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D570230210-27092001> <FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Jon</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu=20
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Adam=20
Robertson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:33 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
Powerhouse List (E-mail)<BR><B>Subject:</B> Changing Operation=20
systems<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D876452623-26092001><FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D876452623-26092001>Thanks to all who=20
have responded</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D876452623-26092001><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D876452623-26092001></SPAN></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D876452623-26092001>We are=20
reviewing the info we have received, and may ask more questions=20
later.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The reason we are looking at moving is we require ODBC and/or JDBC =
access=20
to the data for 2 way access for web pages.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D876452623-26092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D876452623-26092001>Interbase 4 does not have ODBC access, =
whereas=20
Interbase 6 or Sybase will give this.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D876452623-26092001>Apparently Interbase 6 will not work with =
Powerhouse (I=20
think ver5.5 was last supported - does it have =
ODBC?)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D876452623-26092001>So=20
Sybase is currently our best option (we already own it as=20
well)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D876452623-26092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D876452623-26092001>(Linux=20
was just an option put forward by our network guy)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D876452623-26092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D876452623-26092001>Again,=20
Thanks for the info from you all. I have a lot of research to=20
do.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV><BR>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam Robertson</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Computer Systems Officer</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>University of=20
Sydney, Orange</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Phone: 02 6360=20
5967 Fax: 02 6360 5590</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au">mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.e=
du.au</A></FONT>=20
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu=20
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Blue<BR><B>Sent:</B>=20
Thursday, 27 September 2001 0:24 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
powerh-l@lists.swau.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Changing Operation=20
systems<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001>G'day Adam</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001>Question: WHY?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001>Response: there is a consultant in =
California who=20
posted some messages on the PowerHouse new group on the Cognos web =
site who=20
said he had about 60 customers running PowerHouse 7.?? on Linux quite=20
successfully. He used the SCO version with virtually no=20
modifications. He also said he was having some problems with the =
8.??=20
version on Linux but expected to work them out.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001>Cognos does NOT support this install and =
this=20
consultant provides is own support to his clients.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D660351214-26092001>The=20
only reason I can see why you would want to make such a move is that U =
of=20
Sydney must be hard up for money. 64 bit to 32 bit, alpha to =
Intel,=20
performance and reliability wise it doesn't make a lot of=20
sense.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D660351214-26092001>Why=20
not go Windows NT and PowerHouse Web or Axiant =
3.0?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D660351214-26092001>Good=20
luck,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D660351214-26092001>Blue</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu =
[mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]<B>On=20
Behalf Of</B> Adam Robertson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September =
26, 2001=20
1:41 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Powerhouse List (E-mail)<BR><B>Subject:</B> =
Changing=20
Operation systems<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D033523406-26092001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D008480400-12092001>We have Powerhouse ver =
8.13d, with=20
Interbase 4 as the database running on Compaq Tru64 ver4.0f (on an =
Alpha=20
box).</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D033523406-26092001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D008480400-12092001></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D033523406-26092001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D008480400-12092001>We are looking at moving =
to Interbase=20
6 or Sybase, updating our version of PowerHouse and moving to =
another=20
operating system.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D033523406-26092001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D008480400-12092001></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D033523406-26092001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN class=3D008480400-12092001>We know that Interbase 6 =
or Sybase=20
will run on Linux.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D033523406-26092001><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D008480400-12092001></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D033523406-26092001><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D008480400-12092001>My question =
is:</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D033523406-26092001></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D033523406-26092001></SPAN><FONT size=3D2><FONT=20
=
face=3DArial>Is anyone running Powerhouse on Lin=
ux? <SPAN=20
class=3D033523406-26092001>(will it run =
there?)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D033523406-26092001></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>A<SPAN=20
class=3D033523406-26092001>ny comments on its performance=20
etc.?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D033523406-26092001></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D033523406-26092001></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>W<SPAN =
class=3D033523406-26092001>hich version and flavour of linux would =
be=20
recommended? (we have RedHat already.)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D033523406-26092001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D033523406-26092001></SPAN><SPAN=20
class=3D033523406-26092001></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>T<SPAN =
class=3D033523406-26092001>hanks</SPAN><BR></FONT></DIV>
<P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adam Robertson</FONT> <BR><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Computer Systems Officer</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>University of Sydney, Orange</FONT> <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Phone: 02 6360 5967 Fax: 02 6360 5590</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.edu.au">mailto:aroberts@orange.usyd.e=
du.au</A></FONT>=20
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