Oracle (not Rdb) database

Mark Stewart stewm@canada.com
21 Jun 2001 18:29:25 -0700


Bill,

I aggree with COMMIT AT 1 TRANSACTION which is the same as COMMIT AT UPDATE.  This sets your transaction model to concurrency.  However I'm kind of uncertain as to why you would highly recommend putting SET LOCK RECORD UPDATE in every QTP source.  

Mark

On Thu, 21 June 2001, "Bill D Michael" wrote:

> 
> 
> PH 8.20D6 will allow you to access Oracle 8i tables, same as if they were
> RMS files, with minimal effort, for things like QUIZ. (Or indeed any "read
> only" access, REFERENCE files in Quick and such.) So writing new code to
> access your new database should not be that bad. Even "simple" Quick
> screens aren't bad, as long as you're careful with locking and COMMITs. QTP
> can easily lock up your whole system if you let it take the defaults -
> COMMIT AT 1 TRANSACTION and SET LOCK RECORD UPDATE in every source is
> highly recommended! (Also recommend _not_ using SUBDICT=SEARCH; go ahead
> and specify the database name everywhere.)
> 
> However, I would be very careful in just "upgrading" from 7.10 to 8.20,
> regarding your current applications that will be staying around, whether
> they'll be touching Oracle or not. This is a nightmare to do, primarily due
> to two factors; the removal of "VMSisms" from 8.xx, and the large number of
> serious bugs in 8.20. 8.30 is rumored to be much easier to move to on the
> "VMSisms", but of course it's going to be out "real soon now", and hasn't
> yet been through the painful debugging 8.10/8.20 has over the last couple
> of years. If I were in your situation, I'd get 8.20 for "new stuff", but
> keep 7.10 for the existing code.
> 
> I'd also rethink running Oracle 8 on VMS. There are a number of
> problems/issues there that (apparently) aren't a problem on other
> platforms. Given the ideal situation (if PH/Oracle/VMS can ever be
> idealized!), I'd put the Oracle off on a Unix box, with the PowerHouse app
> on VMS... If you have to keep it all on "one box", plan on doubling the
> horsepower of that box, or you're not going to be happy with the
> performance.
> 
> Bill
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Mike Chalenburg <chalenburg@harding.edu>@cube.swau.edu on 06/21/2001
> 11:07:08 AM
> 
> Please respond to chalenburg@harding.edu
> 
> Sent by:  powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu
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> To:   powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> cc:
> Subject:  Oracle (not Rdb) database
> 
> 
> Good morning,
> 
> Given the current thread on Rdb, I'd like to get advice on a separate but
> related topic.
> 
> We are running an Alpha cluster with VMS 7.2-1 (soon to be 7.3) and
> Powerhouse 7.10F2.  After years of home grown software, about 95% in
> Powerhouse, we are moving to a 3rd party vendor for all of our
> applications.
> We are down to two vendors and the similarity is that they both run on
> Oracle 8.1.7 (not Rdb).  We intend to run the database server portion on
> the
> VMS cluster.
> 
> There are a few of our applications that will not be replaced by the 3rd
> party product.  Also it would be very helpful to be able to modify some of
> our applications to look at the Oracle database.  Is any of this feasible?
> What kinds of pitfalls are there?  I had understood that we would be able
> to
> use Powerhouse to access the Oracle database.  Is that correct?
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Mike
> 
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