PowerHouse Web

[J V. STIRES]

Hi Blue,
Because I was told that 7.10G was supposed to be the first really Y2K
compliant version of PH, I loaded it onto one of my test machines.  I
recompiled my programs (several hundred in total) and began testing
with my users.  This was almost a year ago.  Aside from the problems
trying to pass values like a "@" into QUIZ and QTP through system
symbols, I experienced several other issues that increasingly made
life more challenging.  I was under a tight schedule and did not have
the kind of time to really pick apart the issues and document them as
I would like to have done.   I should have been more diligent in
maintaining a list of issues.  I was under the gun, with lots of
attention directed I way (amazing how much interest a payroll system
draws sometimes).  I got the job done, even close to being on
schedule.  Unfortunately, I did not have the where with all to
document my frustrations with 7.10G.

At one point, I decided to return to 7.10E6.  Thank goodness our
programs required very little modification and testing went smoothly
on 7.10E6.  Since then, I have been reluctant to try again unless I
have the time to analyze errors and document them more thoroughly.

Thanks for the interest.  From what I have heard since my posting, I
may try again when I get the opportunity try again on a lesser scale.

John
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G'day John

I am curoius as to what 'loss of functions' you found with 7.10G.  I
was on
two upgrade projects last year and found nothing lacking with 7.10G.

Regards,

Blue

-----Original Message-----
From: J V. STIRES
To: owner-powerh-l; powerh-l
Sent: 5/17/00 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: PowerHouse Web

I am on 7.10e6 on an DEC ALPHA running VMS.  I discovered that going
from 7.10e6 to 7.10g would cost far too much to even consider making
the upgrade.  Among the disheartening losses of functions was the
inability to pass a system symbol containing an "@" into a CHOOSE
statement.  7.10g would not handle this at all, yet 7.10e6 handles
this just fine.

When I called COGNOS about this, they told me that they knew about it,
but had no plans to fix the problem even though they had complaints
from a number of other users.  I put in a bug fix request last year,
but have little hope that it will be fixed anytime soon.  It took them
nearly 6 months just to call me back to confirm the request.

Until I hear more positive feedback on later releases, I plan to stay
right where I am, on 7.10e6.  I may be falling behind by not moving
forward, but, as it is, I can still keep my applications running with
reasonable success.  It sure beats the alternatives at this time....

John Stires
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Regardless of whether features were "taken out" or "never there" (a
totally
meaningless distinction), 8.20D on VMS is effectively unusable. (And
it's
far better than prior 8.20's, or 8.10.) In addition to the "missing"
features, there are several serious bugs in the VMS version, at least
one
of which has now been "promoted to a Critical site". That one caused
us to
delay our move to 8.20 indefinitely (originally scheduled for this
weekend). If you can possibly wait for 8.30, I'd recommend you do so -
or
at the very least, wait for 8.20"E", or whatever they call the bug-fix
version.

Bill





"Hamilton, Allison" <Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM>@sphere.swau.edu on
05/17/2000 09:51:27 AM

Sent by:  owner-powerh-l@sphere.swau.edu



To:   "'Chris Sharman'" <Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk>,
      nick.butland@acco-uk.co.uk
cc:   powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject:  RE: PowerHouse Web


PowerHouse Web is only available with PowerHouse 8.20... and the VMS
stuff
wasn't taken out- it was never in that version. But don't give up on
it
getting there yet...

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Sharman [mailto:Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:17 AM
To: nick.butland@acco-uk.co.uk
Cc: Chris.Sharman@ccagroup.co.uk; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: RE: PowerHouse Web



>Since we can't interest anyone in our British weather, here's
something a
>little more interesting technically. We currently run 7.10.E6 (yes,
yes,
>upgrade pending, G2 probably) on Vax/Alpha under VMS 6.2. With some
>assistance from our account manager & his technical sidekick, we are
going
>to attempt to convert a few screens for a trial on PH Web.

7.10G4 is the latest available VMS version. I believe PH Web requires
8.10
(the version with all the VMS stuff taken out), also available. VMS
has
moved
on a way as well ;)

>The only site we have been advised of as actually using this is
Caledonian
>MacBrayne (apologies for spelling). Is there anyone else out there
doing
any
>trial work at the moment, or having developed an intranet using the
product,
>prepared to share observations?
Looked at possibilities, done nothing, saying nothing, yet.
But I'd be interested in seeing here what others are doing, who's
bought it / evaluated it, and for what purpose / size of project,
particularly in the UK.

And the warm weather has been & gone - 90 degrees in the office last
Monday.
But who cares - this is the land of warm beer, not warm weather.

Chris
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CCA Stationery Ltd, Eastway, Fulwood, Preston, Lancashire, PR2 9WS.
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