Axiant cost?
Kogan, Arthur
akogan@westpac.com.au
Tue, 18 May 1999 10:12:47 +1000
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Further on Impromptu.
I am currently working on a Datamart project. The tool we are using,
retrieves the data from a transaction processing system, does a bit of data
transformation/reformatting and then loads the results into the "Datamart",
which is relational table in Oracle on NT. Now, the only part of this that
can not be done by the standard version of Impromptu is "save as Oracle",
although something similar is done by the more expensive "server" version,
which runs the query on the server, then creates the result table in a
relational database on the server and stores the result of the query in it.
Even with the standard version of Impromptu, you could save the query result
as a CSV file (or similar) and then use the database native loader program
to load it into the relational table, all run using one CognosScript
program. The tool we are using, costs about $50K. Impromptu single license
costs under $1K.
This just shows how versatile Impromptu is (if it was marketed this way) in
providing cost effective solutions to a wide variety of business problems.
Regards,
Arthur Kogan
Westpac Financial Services
Sydney, Australia
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kogan, Arthur [SMTP:akogan@westpac.com.au]
> Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 1999 9:42 AM
> To: Richard Witkopp; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> Subject: RE: Axiant cost?
>
> Hi Richard.
>
> You do not say when you did the course (i.e. which version of Impromtu),
> it
> has been constantly changing and improving in leaps and bounds. Now, as
> far
> as accessing from various locations, this can easily be achieved by
> storing
> things (like catalog and reports) on the LAN (although you will need to
> install the Impromptu software itself on all the PCs you want to use it
> on).
> As far as multipass report is concerned, again this can be accommodated to
> any degree of sophistication you like using CognosScript. For example you
> could write a script that runs report1 and saves the resulting output into
> an Access indexed file (if you need to duplicate indexed subfile
> functionality), than runs report2 using the newly created file etc... You
> can write yourself a PC menu system for running these reports and even
> prompt for parameters (which could be verified using lookups) at run time.
> You can even schedule the running of reports.
>
> In essence, what I am saying is, it would be well worth your while to give
> Impromptu another look, preferably as a demo session with a Cognos rep,
> who
> can show you how Impromptu can accommodate your particular needs.
>
> Regards,
>
> Arthur Kogan
> Westpac Financial Services
> Sydney, Australia
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Witkopp [SMTP:witkopp@idt.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 May 1999 2:56 AM
> > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> > Subject: RE: Axiant cost?
> >
> > My exposure to Impromptu is limited to a 2 day class that
> > felt like it was a month. Maybe it's changed since then, but
> > it seemed much less powerful than quiz. A multi-pass quiz
> > run with indexed subfiles, etc. can be stored and executed
> > in 1 file. Is this also true of Impromptu? Server-based is
> > much more desirable for us because we can log in from various
> > locations, not because of processing speed.
> >
> > > Hi Richard.
> > >
> > > The only benefits, I can see of Quiz over Impromptu are:
> > >
> > > 1. As a reporting component of the overall PH application
> > > sharing common
> > > dictionary etc...
> > > 2. The processing (other than that done by the database) can
> > > be done on the
> > > server and therefore faster.
> > >
> > > Now, from what you are saying about your desired use, neither
> > > of these are
> > > applicable. Hence I would recommend Impromptu.
> > >
> > > The issue of subfiles can also be resolved. If you need
> > > subfiles for further
> > > processing using other tools, that can be accommodated by
> > > saving Impromtu
> > > report as (for example) a CSV file. If you are talking about
> > > a multipass
> > > report, using subfiles to store data between the passes,
> > > again there are
> > > ways to accomplish this with Impromptu. For example, you could use
> > > sub-reports or you could use Hotfiles.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Arthur Kogan
> > > Westpac Financial Services
> > > Sydney, Australia
> > >
> > > My views are my own and do not necessarily reflect the views
> > > of my employer.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Richard Witkopp [SMTP:witkopp@idt.com]
> > > > Sent: Saturday, 15 May 1999 4:37 AM
> > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> > > > Subject: RE: Axiant cost?
> > > >
> > > > Not really. Our user base is already experienced in Quiz.
> > > > IIRC Impromptu is not as powerful as quiz, subfiles, etc?
> > > > If I'm wrong, maybe it would be a good alternative, I think
> > > > it's cheaper.
> > > >
> > > > > Quiz only? Sounds to me that you want something like
> > > > > Impromptu. Or perhaps
> > > > > PowerPlay.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dirk Rohde
> > > > > VantagePoint Group
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Richard Witkopp [mailto:witkopp@idt.com]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 14, 1999 9:51 AM
> > > > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> > > > > Subject: Axiant cost?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Just out of curiosity, about how much does a 3 or 5 user Axiant
> > > > > license cost? Quiz (user) only, if there is such a thing
> > > for Axiant.
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