Oracle RDBMS (was: What's the best way...)

[Jon Hawks]

I can confirm your statement Robert, that Oracle did intend to migrate
the Rdb folks, having been at a couple of sites with Rdb and tied to
one of the DEC Database Guru's at the time.  He went to Oracle with
the move.  The partitions provided independent table spaces with
automatic partition key constraints.  The independent management of a
portion of a partitioned table was very appealing, not to mention the
parallel processing and speed increases (when configured properly). 
I've witnessed several DBA's trying to apply 7.3 design 8.05
technology.  This causes parallel processing to fail miserably.  Also,
the parallel application processing has to align with the database
structure.  Two major changes from 7.3 to 8.0 were simply the
partitions and Blobs.

DEC has an interesting history of having financial demi-gods with
spreadsheets and CEO's who were "decision-makers" step through a
series of layoffs, that should be likened to participants in the
Darwin Award.  They cut off every appendage until they actually cut
off their head.  The CEO did get fired and of course we all know
Compaq has saved this great little company.

The VP of Technology went to Microsoft.  Hence, we saw COM turn into
DCOM, and the other mechanisms that internally make a computer, really
work, started to appear in Microsoft's operating system and add-ons.  

Rdb went to Oracle.  Who knows what will be this outcome?  Oracle has
an an innate requirement that to work there you need to be half-pirana
and half-psychotic.  





---"Robert J.M. Edis" <Robert.Edis@creatcomp.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Actually Arthur, Oracle has continued to develop Oracle Rdb and
released
> version 7.  It's better than ever.  They are also working on porting
it to
> Windows NT and pushing it as a datawarehouse solution due to it's
> performance.  Check out the "Rdb Journal" pages at Oracle's web site.
> 
> I believe that Oracle originally bought Rdb from Digital to strip it
of its
> advanced technology.  E.g. the optimiser and hot backups, something
that
> Oracle 7 still can't do.  However, I think that when the Oracle kids
got a
> hold of it they found out what a good, robust and advanced product
Digital
> made and decided to keep it going.  I think Oracle management
believed that
> Rdb customers would move to Oracle 7 or Oracle 8 but instead they
threatened
> to go to Sybase or SQL Server instead.  So Oracle backed down on the
high
> license costs and promised to continue to develop and support Rdb. 
So now
> Oracle sells three RDBMS's, Oracle 7.3.4, Oracle 8 and Oracle Rdb.
> 
> Blue
> 
> 
> 
> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	From:	Kogan, Arthur [SMTP:akogan@westpac.com.au]
> <mailto:[SMTP:akogan@westpac.com.au]> 
> 	Sent:	Thursday, March 18, 1999 6:48 PM
> 	To:	Robert J.M. Edis; 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
> 	Subject:	RE: What's the best way...
> 
> 	Isn't RDB something Oracle bought in order to kill it?
> 	They are doing it by stopping development and charging huge
> maintenance
> 	fees.
> 
> 	> -----Original Message-----
> 	> From:	Robert J.M. Edis [SMTP:Robert.Edis@creatcomp.com]
> <mailto:[SMTP:Robert.Edis@creatcomp.com]> 
> 	> Sent:	Friday, 19 March 1999 9:36 AM
> 	> To:	'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
> 	> Subject:	RE: What's the best way...
> 	> 
> 	> We had access to Oracle Arthur, Oracle Rdb!
> 	> 
> 	> Blue
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 	-----Original Message-----
> 	> 	From:	Kogan, Arthur [SMTP:akogan@westpac.com.au]
> <mailto:[SMTP:akogan@westpac.com.au]> 
> 	> 	Sent:	Thursday, March 18, 1999 5:40 PM
> 	> 	To:	Chris Sharman; Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM
> <mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM> 
> 	> 	Cc:	powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> <mailto:powerh-l@lists.swau.edu> 
> 	> 	Subject:	RE: What's the best way...
> 	> 
> 	> 		>	BTW, nice to see REVERSE is present in all
> 8.x
> 	> components: any other
> 	> 		>	corrections to my post of gains & losses for
> VMS
> 	> 7->8 ?
> 	> 
> 	> 
> 	> 		What about access to Oracle gained by going to
> version 8?
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