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Raymond Schneider balddaddyray@yahoo.com
Wed, 10 Mar 1999 12:05:01 -0800 (PST)


This is for all users of the HP-3000 who are using IMAGE. If you are
not on H-P, don't flame me! I burn easily. 

I pulled this from the IMAGE listserv and have Joe Geiser's permission
to pass this onto this listserv. Read both Joe's comments and Ken
Sletten's clarifications regarding how to fill out the form. Remember
use an absolute value to determine the total and keep it less than 10.

Ray Schneider
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Attention all users of Image (TurboIMAGE and Image/SQL)!

The annual SIGIMAGE Enhancement ballot is now online.  To save trees,
and to
(hopefully) make it as easy as possible, there will be no paper
ballots this
year, and only a web-based version available.

All users of Image, whether TurboIMAGE or Image/SQL, are encouraged to
visit
the site.  Before the URL is given, here are some features/details you
need
to know.

The ballot is a full-fledged web-based application, which stores its
data
(and retrieves data to validate the one ballot/one person rule) in an
Image/SQL database, residing on an HP3000.  We did this for the first
time
last year to showcase Image on the Web in Action.  As a web-based
application however, you need to know that although the web is
"stateless" -
we're maintaining state.  We maintain it for 20 minutes of inactivity,
therefore, we are asking that when you complete your ballot, please do
not
allow 20 minutes to go by with no inactivity, or variables will be
released,
as will your connection.

Next - The ballot this year is a bit more organized than last year. 
When
you first visit, there is a button which will retrieve full
descriptions for
most all of the items on the ballot.  This will help those folks who
would
be confused by the "one liners" on the ballot itself.  Feel free to
print
this out, so you have an idea of the issues, and where you might put
your
votes.

So, without further ado, the URL is http://www.csillc.com/sigimage/
and just
follow the directions.  We are asking every Image user to complete a
ballot.
Last year, we had 110 and some change -- we're looking for 300 or more
ballots, so after you file yours - tell two co-workers... then let
them tell
two.  We have the bandwidth -- you need to get the word out to those
who may
not subscribe to one of the lists getting this message.

Vote early -- balloting closes, I believe, March 29 for the Interex
SIB (Ken
Sletten, SIGImage Chair will correct me if I'm wrong).  Balloting may
continue for an additional week as we did last year for SIEC/HP use.

Best Regards,
Joe Geiser
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Hello all IMAGE Users:

As announced by my SIGIMAGE Executive Committee (SIEC)
colleague Joe Geiser last Thursday evening, the '99 SIGIMAGE
Ballot is now up on the web and the polls are open, at:

www.csillc.com/sigimage/

One correction and clarification:  On the above home page
for the '99 Ballot, it says:

" Vote against an item with a negative number, vote for an item
with a positive number. Your vote total may not exceed 10."

Then after you complete entry of the demographic info, on the
actual ballot it says:

"Please remember that your total votes must not exceed 10. 
You may use negative numbers to offset other positives, but 
in the end, your ballot total must not exceed 10 votes."  


This oversight is mostly my fault, for not being clear in the 
text that I sent to SIGIMAGE webmeister Joe Geiser before I
went skiing last weekend:  What I meant to specify is that the
*absolute* total of all votes on any one ballot must not exceed
10:  Ignore the sign when adding votes;  i.e.:  negative votes 
do NOT "offset" positives.  As Gavin already pointed out, if 
allowed and carried to extremes this would allow one ballot to
include "-9" votes for 10 items offset by a "+99" vote for an 
11th item.  I hope all will agree that this would "skew" our ballot
results in an undesirable way....  

Sooo...:  Please continue to vote if you have not already done
so, but:  If you DO vote first thing starting Monday 8 March, be
advised that the additional edit checks to prevent doing Gavin's
"-90, +99" thing may not be in place immediately.  In which case
until said edit checks ARE in place, you will have to be careful
if you enter a negative vote for one or more items, to make sure
that your absolute vote total does not exceed 10.

For the small handful of voters who entered negative votes for
one or more items and in so doing exceeded 10 absolute, we
will be contacting you to ask your indulgence in submitting a 
revised ballot.   But please do not try and do so until we let you
know it is O.K. to proceed;  the check for duplicate ballots will
prevent you from doing so until the initial entry is reset.

Mea culpa, mea culpa...  sorry for the confusion....  beat up
on yours truly for the error if you wish, but please do not let
it keep anyone from voting:  As Joe has already mentioned, 
we are hoping to substantially better our record of 112 ballots
returned for 1998 in 1999.....  signs so far are good:  After the
first weekend we are already nearly half-way to last year's
total.....

thanks,

Ken Sletten
SIGIMAGE Chair
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Raymond B. Schneider		(513)621-3045
Hamilton County Mental Health Board	(513)632-7159 fax
801-A W. 8th Street			H-P 3000  MPE/iX 5.0
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