Date Formats in PH819C4

[Jon Hawks]

Sounds like fun, Tracy.  I've heard a variety of
approaches for international.  Of course,there's
always the use of ISO codes for geography.  But, the
date thing, now there were a couple of interesting
ideas I heard when dealing with GM.  One, carry both,
US and European.  3-4-1999 and 4-3-1999. Two, carry
the days and convert. The dragon thing though, hmmm.
Some say it's the end of the millenium and some say
it's the beginning. And the actual date, related to
our Western calendar is certainly different.  I
suggest we let the black market figure this out. 
Since the majority of installations have ripped-off
software, perhaps there is justice after all.  Even
Bill Gates gave in and said he hoped one day they
would see their way clear to pay for license.  

--- "Johnson, Tracy" <Tracy.Johnson@LUCASVARITY.COM>
wrote:
> Add to this great fun because we have sites going
> over frame relay from the U.K. to our U.S. CPU and
> they want their dates in a different format than our
> U.S. sites.
> 
> Therefore, we have condition codes surrounding our
> date DEFINE statements e.g.:
> 
> @IF UK
> ...
> @ELSE
> ...
> @ENDIF
> 
> This means that in order to use a common set of
> code, we can't have compiled Quiz.
> 
> We're also setting up a manufacturing site in the
> People's Republic of China.  Next year is the Year
> of the Dragon.  Anyone know how to format THAT in
> Quiz?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Deskin, Bob [SMTP:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM]
> Sent:	Tuesday, June 08, 1999 7:08 AM
> To:	powerh-l@lists.swau.edu%internet
> Subject:	RE: Date Formats in PH819C4
> 
> This is actually unchanged from older versions of
> PowerHouse. It's just that
> it becomes more obvious now that we have to deal
> with the century. Basically
> PowerHouse needs to know what digits belong to which
> piece of the date. Now
> we know that there are 2 digits each in the month
> and day, but we don't know
> whether the year is 2 digits or 4 digits. So when
> you have a format of
> ddmmyyyy, we assume the first 2 digits are the day,
> the next 2 are the month
> and anything left over is the year (with or without
> the century because
> PowerHouse doesn't force the century unless you say
> FORCE CENTURY). However,
> with a format of yyyymmdd, or a format of yymmdd
> with the ALLOW CENTURY
> option, and an entry of 000101, we don't assume that
> the first 2 digits are
> the year. We did discuss making lots of assumptions,
> but decided not to
> because of data validation. Assumptions can let
> users enter invalid data. We
> decided that with the century change, we wouldn't
> make any assumptions. Keep
> in mind that all PowerHouse needs is the first
> separator - 00/0101. Also
> note that if you wanted to drop the leading zeros,
> you'd need separators as
> well - 00/1/1.
> 
> Bob Deskin              
> Senior Product Advisor, Application Development
> Tools, Cognos Inc.
> bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 4205 FAX:
> (613) 228-3149
> 3755 Riverside Drive P.O. Box 9707 Stn. T, Ottawa ON
> K1G 4K9 CANADA
> 
> 
> > ----------
> > From: 	Neil Harvey[SMTP:neil@nha.co.za]
> > Sent: 	June 8, 1999 5:08 AM
> > To: 	powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> > Subject: 	Date Formats in PH819C4
> > 
> > Greetings
> > 
> > We are busy converting our clients from 729 to 819
> on HP3000 Platform.
> > Some of these clients like the dates displayed as
> yyyy/mm/dd or with
> > nullsep
> > yyyymmdd.
> > Others prefer dd/mm/yyyy, or with nullsep
> ddmmyyyy. But both want to enter
> > the date with or without the century.
> > 
> > This is pretty easy to achieve, and on the
> ddmmyyyy (or dd/mm/yyyy) format
> > we can enter the dates as 01/01/00 and get a
> display of 01/01/2000, but
> > this
> > does not work with the yyyy/mm/dd format. Here we
> are forced to enter the
> > century, UNLESS we enter the date as yy/mm/dd i.e.
> with the slashes.
> > 
> > Is this a bug? or a feature :)
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > Neil
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