Cognos coversion from mainframe to PC

[Jon Hawks]

A good explanation.  While at GM I helped clarify a
6000 user license.  Named users are not billed. 
Concurrent user license values are billable and Oracle
charged GM on that basis. 

The other problem we faced was a geographic licensing
issue.  GM wanted to move some US licenses to the UK. 
This would require a bump in the per license pricing
to include global price licensing. 

Well, it was like watching two scorpions negotiate
over a dying frog.  Backroom handshakes, pissed of
project managers, happy salesmen and a clueless
purchasing agent, added up to a good business deal in
Warren, MI. We'll call it a success and I am happy to
say that I helped!



--- Charles Lewis <lewisc@swau.edu> wrote:
> Walter,
> 
> I had the same puzzling experience. For reasons I
> will not elaborate on in
> this post, we are migrating from Powerhouse to a
> UNIFACE/Oracle solution and
> due to my Powerhouse background, I assumed that I
> would need to have an
> Oracle license for each user, whether they were
> actively hitting the
> database, or just sitting there looking at a screen.
> And, of course, the
> Oracle rep did not try to correct my understanding.
> As you know Oracle
> licensing schemes are costly, so this was not going
> to be financially
> feasible for us.
> 
> However, I found out from the enterprise solution
> vendor that a concurrent
> licenses refers to the number of simultaneous hits
> to the database, so for
> our institution (about 20-30 users) we would only
> need about 8 licenses. Any
> hits that exceed this license limit get stuck in a
> queue to wait for the
> next available slot. If things bog down too much,
> you just add another
> license. I could be totally wrong in this but this
> is how it was explained
> to me.
> 
> chas
> 
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> Southwestern Adventist University
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> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Walter Lucas <whl3@nwths.com>
> To: 'POWERH-L@LISTS.SWAU.EDU'
> <POWERH-L@lists.swau.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 1:27 PM
> Subject: Cognos coversion from mainframe to PC
> 
> 
> > Hey guys,
> >
> >
> > I'm new to the list, so let me introduce myself.
> >
> > My name is Walter Lucas, and I'm a mainframe
> Cognos programmer working on
> a
> > HP-3000 900 series using MPE.  My office mate and
> I have been at this for
> > 15 years now, but times are a-changin'.
> >
> > What we are currently looking at is migrating our
> homegrown applications
> > from the HP onto the NT platform.  We pretty much
> settled on Oracle as a
> > database generator, but we keep getting confusing
> answers as to what
> Oracle
> > we need and how many licenses.
> >
> > What I need to find out is if there is anyone in
> the group who has made
> > such a conversion and how you determined which
> version of Oracle to use
> (or
> > Sequel or other DB).  Did you have to license each
> user even though they
> > were not using Oracle, but accessing a database
> through Cognos?
> >
> > There is much confusion here on this last question
> because we have bought
> > packages for the hospital coded in C or C+ that
> use Access and DBase
> > databases, but we were not required to buy Access
> or Dbase to use them.
> >
> > Any help is greatly appreciated, even a pointer in
> the right direction.
> >  Also, I'll gladly offer more information as
> required.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Walter Lucas
> > Applications Programmer
> > Northwest Texas Healthcare Systems
> > Amarillo, Texas
> > < WHL3@NWTHS.COM >
> >
> >
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