<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">As Richard says. A CHOOSE on an RMS ISAM file will use an index, so if you're providing a value, it only returns records with that index value.<div><div><div><div>On 2013-09-24, at 4:42 PM, Richard Witkopp <<a href="mailto:RWitkopp@phxa.com">RWitkopp@phxa.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">It uses the index(es) on the RMS (ISAM)
files, similar to what it does on a database.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<a href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+rwitkopp=phxa.com@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l-bounces+rwitkopp=phxa.com@lists.sowder.com</a>
[mailto:powerh-<a href="mailto:l-bounces+rwitkopp=phxa.com@lists.sowder.com">l-bounces+rwitkopp=phxa.com@lists.sowder.com</a>] <b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Etienne Rompre<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, September 24, 2013
1:29 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname w:st="on"><a href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</a></st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: QTP reads every row
instead of using index?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
</div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">What effect CHOOSE would have on a OPENVMS system on RMS files?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
12.0pt">Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Thank you for the tip.
I’ve updated my problem QTP program to use both. It was taking 150 minutes.
With the changes it now runs in less than 8 minutes!<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">As I always tell the young
folks at work: OpenVMS and Powerhouse just keep working.<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Comic Sans MS"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"">Cheers, <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arnold<u1:p></u1:p></st1:place></st1:city></span></font><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><b><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> </span></font></span><font size="2" face="Tahoma"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"><a href="mailto:Herald.Kaffka@westfraser.com">Herald.Kaffka@westfraser.com</a><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:Herald.Kaffka@<a href="http://westfraser.com">westfraser.com</a>]<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, 24 September, 2013 05:11<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Ken Langendock<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Arnold Chan; 'powerh-l';<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+herald.kaffka=westfraser.com@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l-bounces+herald.kaffka=westfraser.com@lists.sowder.com</a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: QTP reads every row instead of
using index?<u1:p></u1:p></span></font><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<div><u1:p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:12.0pt"> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I think of it as this way:</span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
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</span><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Select = Tell the database to send me all rows, that I may
throw away the ones that I don't want.</span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
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</span><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Choose = Tell the database to send me the rows that match
the following the criteria.</span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
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</span><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">You can mix the two, choose something simple and selective,
and select on something complex.</span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
</span><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">Basic rule is that choose happens down in the database
layer, while selects happen in the Powerhouse layer.</span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
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</span><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">(running as much as possible in the database layer is
usually more efficient).</span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
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</span><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial">So yes, choose where possible, and save the selects for more
complex expressions....</span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
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</span><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#5F5F5F">From:
</span></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial">Ken Langendock <<a href="mailto:ken.langendock@rogers.com">ken.langendock@rogers.com</a>></span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
</span><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#5F5F5F">To:
</span></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial">"'Arnold Chan'" <<a href="mailto:Chan@camosun.bc.ca">Chan@camosun.bc.ca</a>>,
"'powerh-l'" <<a href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</a>>,<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></font><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
</span><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#5F5F5F">Date:
</span></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial">09/23/2013 06:19 PM</span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
</span><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#5F5F5F">Subject:
</span></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial">RE: QTP reads every row instead of
using index?</span></font><span class="apple-converted-space"><span lang="EN-CA"> </span></span><span lang="EN-CA"><br>
</span><font size="1" color="#5f5f5f" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#5F5F5F">Sent by:
</span></font><font size="1" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:Arial"><<a href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+herald.kaffka=westfraser.com@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l-bounces+herald.kaffka=westfraser.com@lists.sowder.com</a>></span></font><span lang="EN-CA"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></font><tt><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt">When using an SQL database, stop using SELECT and
CHOOSE everything.</span></font></tt><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""><br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> RUN ECE_TEST</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> REQUEST ECE_TEST1</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> ACCESS CON8 IN IFAS_DB</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> SET LIST SQL</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> CHOOSE BCSAPFOS_ID "XDG1"</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> output con8 in ifas_db update</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> item bcsapfos_id = "XDG1"</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> GO</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">From:</font></tt><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><tt><font face="Courier New"><a href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com</a></font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">[</font></tt></span></font><span lang="EN-CA"><a href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com"><tt><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com</span></font></tt></a></span><tt><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt">] On</span></font></tt><font size="2" face="Courier New"><span lang="EN-CA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
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<tt><font face="Courier New">Behalf Of <st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Arnold</st1:place></st1:city>
Chan</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:13 PM</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">To: 'powerh-l'</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Subject: QTP reads every row instead of using
index?</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">Hello,</font></tt><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">We're running PH 8.40d with Oracle8i (really) on
OpenVMS. We have a problem</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">with QTP. It correctly applies the SELECT criteria
but it does so by reading</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">every row in the table instead of using the index.
Unfortunately something I</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">can't get SET LIST SQL to show anything either.
Here is my test results are</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">below. I have a index on the bcsapfos_id column
but it insists on reading</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">every row. Its not a problem in my test data with
643 rows but the</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">production table is much larger.</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">The index couldn't be more straightforward. I
tried using a plain b-tree</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">index too. It did not make a difference.</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">CREATE BITMAP INDEX con8_idx2 ON con8
(bcsapfos_id);</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Any assistance would be *greatly* appreciated.</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Regards,</font></tt><br>
<st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><tt><font face="Courier New">Arnold</font></tt></st1:place></st1:city><tt><font face="Courier New"> Chan,</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Registrar's Office,</font></tt><br>
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:placename w:st="on"><tt><font face="Courier New">Camosun</font></tt></st1:placename><tt><font face="Courier New"> <st1:placetype w:st="on">College</st1:placetype></font></tt></st1:place><br>
<br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> RUN ECE_TEST</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> REQUEST ECE_TEST1</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> ACCESS CON8 IN IFAS_DB</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> SET LIST SQL</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> SELECT CON8 IF (BCSAPFOS_ID =
"XDG1")</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> output con8 in ifas_db update</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> item bcsapfos_id = "XDG1"</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">> GO</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Executing request ECE_TEST1 ...</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Records read:</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New"> CON8
643</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Transactions processed:
4</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Records processed:
Added Updated Unchanged Deleted</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New"> CON8
0
0 4
0</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Finished.</font></tt><br>
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