It's not that bad... most of your points are valid.. But I wouldn't hold your breath on IBM doing anything for powerhouse.. they bought Cognos for their BI tools.. Powerhouse was an established product they could maintain and open some new doors.<br>
<ul><li>only 31 files in a Qdesign screen<span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"> --> there are tricks to this views, subscreens etc</span>.</span><br></li><li>popular databases are unsupported, (mySQL, others?) <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(255,102,102)">--> I thought mySQL was supported</span><br>
</li><li>PH Windows uses ODBC 2.5 from 1994. Version 3.8 is now current. <br></li><li>POW, the automated interface to the PDL dictionary, ships with OpenVMS only <span style="color:rgb(255,102,102)">--> never used it until I got the VMS not missing that much</span><br>
</li><li>PH screens look old. Users must learn specific keyboard commands<span style="color:rgb(255,0,0)"> -- No they don't designer etc..</span><br></li><li>Web
interface must be done with the PH Web add on which generates code that
usually requires further modifications to address design requirements. <span style="background-color:rgb(255,0,0)"> <span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(255,0,0)">and a very fixed cycle for data entry...</span></span><br>
</li><li>poor runtime error notifications --> have you used assembler.. The problem is more the misleading error messages<br></li><li>very limited number of PH sites, and declining<br></li><li>extremely limited number of Axiant sites<br>
</li><li>many, (most, all?), PH programmers have grey hair <b style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);color:rgb(255,0,0)"> --> grecian formula</b></li></ul><p><br></p><p>You have the benefit of being on up to date O/S version of PH (except where they have opted to use the older version) and you have support not that it's been at all useful in the past..<br>
</p><p><br></p><p>I am on an antiquated cluster of UNIX boxes (circa 1994) boxes running HP-UX 10.20 updated 1998... <br></p><p><br></p><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 9:10 AM, JA Vaughn Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:javrsmith@gmail.com" target="_blank">javrsmith@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I have been back on an OpenVMS system using PowerHouse, (PH), for 4 months now. In that time, I have been re-amazed at the things I can do with Qdesign, QTP and Quiz. Before this year, I did some work learning PHP and Python with mySQL, typical Windows development tools. PH has them beat from a productivity standpoint, and not by just a bit either.<br>
<br>Realistically, what future does PowerHouse have? The products are 30+ years old but they still perfrom quite well on the right hardware. With the exception of Unix and Windows, they run on antiquated hardware, though. The HP 3000 MPE is done; HP offers help to move these sites to Unix or Windows platforms. OpenVMS sites can move to HP Itanium machines which are about 12 years old and have a very uncertain future. PH used to run on IBM AS/400. What's up with that these days? Unix and Windows remain viable platforms for PowerHouse deployment since you can actually buy modern servers from various manufacturers.<br>
<br>What about the future of PowerHouse itself? IBM has stated that PH will remain supported as long asit makes business sense. That said, there are no future updates planned at this time. The longstanding problems remain: <br>
<ul><li>only 31 files in a Qdesign screen</li><li>popular databases are unsupported, (mySQL, others?)</li><li>PH Windows uses ODBC 2.5 from 1994. Version 3.8 is now current.</li><li>POW, the automated interface to the PDL dictionary, ships with OpenVMS only</li>
<li>PH screens look old. Users must learn specific keyboard commands</li><li>Web interface must be done with the PH Web add on which generates code that usually requires further modifications to address design requirements.</li>
<li>poor runtime error notifications</li><li>very limited number of PH sites, and declining<br></li><li>extremely limited number of Axiant sites<br></li><li>many, (most, all?), PH programmers have grey hair<br></li></ul>
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It is my belief that IBM has a great product with PowerHouse. I also believe that they barely understand this fact and that the corporation purchased Cognos for the great business intelligence tools,mainly. The PowerHouse business has to have seen substantial decline for IBM over the years. How many more sites can convert to other development environments, reducing IBM's revenue, before they shut down Cognos?<br>
</p><p>Sincerely,<br>Vaughn Smith<br>Canada<br></p>
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