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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>You could code your find procedure and
remove the optional or if you’re in the land of databases you could create
a cursor?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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powerh-l-bounces+daveb=thyme-it.ie@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+daveb=thyme-it.ie@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ken Langendock<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 14 November 2007 14:25<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> {Disarmed} RE: Stupid
question about Primary and Secondary</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>True, but I understand the original
design, I'd just like to have the option of creating a link that is
REQUIRED before a record is retrieved just like in QTP.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Courier><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Courier;color:blue'>Access Employees &</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Courier><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Courier;color:blue'> link to Security</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The same in Qdesign would be:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Courier><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Courier;color:blue'>File Employees Primary</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Courier><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Courier;color:blue'>File Security Secondary REQUIRED</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Or you are correct it might have been
better to code Qdesign originally like this:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Courier><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Courier;color:blue'>File Employees Primary</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Courier><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Courier;color:blue'>File Security Secondary (REQUIRED
automatically unless the programmer adds OPTIONAL)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I think that if the same programmer who
created QTP wrote Qdesign, it might have happened this way. But I know that
would be a change that will NOT happen at this point so the REQUIRED option
would be a nice to have enhancement.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Ken</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> November 13, 2007 11:35 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Ken@Langendock.com;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Stupid question about
Primary and Secondary</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks Ken.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I guess the logic behind this is to
"encourage" the developer to note that all links to the primary table
are optional by default and should be, in the case where the underlying tables
do not yield any data. Therefore, "some" data will be available to
the user if the screen was hashed out quickly - so to speak, to give something
to the user. Of course when screens are developed, they seldom stay the way PH
intended them to stay!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>cheers</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Ken@Langendock.com
[mailto:Ken@Langendock.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 14 November 2007
3:28 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Fernando Olmos;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Stupid question about
Primary and Secondary</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>There is no way currently to do what you
want. I requested an enhancement with Cognos to add a "REQUIRED"
option to a secondary file to do this.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Until then Hard code the find and comment
out the OPTIONAL on the secondary GET</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> November 13, 2007 7:28 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Stupid question about
Primary and Secondary</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->I
thought that the following code would make the ORDER_MASTER table *not*
optional!</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
screen ert</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
file customers in isdb</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
file order_master in isdb secondary</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
build list detail</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
PROCEDURE PATH</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
BEGIN</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
LET PATH = 1</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
END</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
PROCEDURE FIND</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
BEGIN</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
GET CUSTOMERS SEQUENTIAL</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
GET ORDER_MASTER OPTIONAL</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>>
END</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Yet
it does. Why?</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How
can I declare the FILE statement to not place an OPTIONAL on GET ORDER_MASTER?</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>Kind regards,</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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