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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546174312-30072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Joe, What about creating a ghost screen that writes out
this record you want.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546174312-30072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Simply call it from the initialize procedure of every
screen.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546174312-30072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I do that now as part of my security system to check access
on every screen.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546174312-30072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>For any procedure (UPDATE or DESIGNER) I run another
call to the ghost screen to check security for that
function.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546174312-30072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546174312-30072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Once a ghost screen is loaded into memory they are
lightning fast.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546174312-30072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=546174312-30072007><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Ken</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Joe Boyle<BR><B>Sent:</B> July 30, 2007 5:18 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
'Deskin, Bob'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: New feature
suggestion : a designer procedure which,when included in the screen, actions
whenever there is screen activity<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">How about adding the
date, userid and process id to the current qktrace output ? that would be very
useful.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Deskin, Bob<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 27 July 2007 14:25<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Joe Boyle;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: New feature suggestion : a
designer procedure which,when included in the screen, actions whenever there is
screen activity</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If I think of the
effort involved and the potential risk, and also consider the number of
customers to whom this would be valuable, I have to be honest and say that this
one doesn't have much chance of moving forward. I will keep it, as I do all
requests.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bob</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-TOP: 5pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 5pt; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0cm">
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Joe Boyle
[mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> July 27, 2007 8:00 AM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Deskin, Bob;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: New feature suggestion : a
designer procedure which,when included in the screen, actions whenever there
is screen activity</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I was thinking along
the lines that, when the procedure is present in a screen, it could contain
code which would write a number of quick session attributes e.g. timestamp,
pid, userid, screenname etc... to a datafile.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It would then be
possible, e.g. at times of high license usage, to have complete control over
which quick sessions ‘live or die’; either by running reports against the
datafile, or by automating logouts based on the values in the datafile. This
could be done by using a quick process in conjunction with ‘run command’
syntax, where even the interval time is variable.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The qkgo time-out
option has no flexibility. The audit trail/trace options produce a lot of
output; this option would happen only when the procedure is compiled into the
screen concerned.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Deskin, Bob<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 26 July 2007 19:27<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Joe Boyle; fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: New feature suggestion : a
designer procedure which,when included in the screen, actions whenever there
is screen activity</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">If you're looking for
something that times out QUICK, the QKGO terminal time-out is supposed to do
that based on a prompt being made and no input happening after a period of
time.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As well, on UNIX and
Windows, there are two types of time out for Axiant thin-client
users to check whether there is activity from the user and whether the client
session is still active.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bob</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Joe
Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] <BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> July 26, 2007 1:58 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Deskin, Bob;
fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> New feature suggestion : a
designer procedure which, when included in the screen, actions whenever
there is screen activity</SPAN></FONT><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">New feature
suggestion : a designer procedure which, when included in the screen,
actions whenever there is screen activity.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A simple
application of this would be to enable a current timestamp for the pid of
the quick process to be written to a file, and make it much easier to
determine which quick processes have been inactive for a certain amount of
time, and subsequently either logged out or killed
etc....<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">
powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Deskin, Bob<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 26 July 2007 14:36<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: Question about auto logout
in QKGO file</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I just tested this
in 8.41E (Windows). It's generic and should work the same way on all
platforms. If not, please report a bug.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">QUICK keeps an
internal count if there's a QKGO Timeout setting. I don't know how often
it's checked, but I know that it issues a warning message a few seconds
before the actual time-out. For example, I set it to 30 seconds and got a
warning 7 seconds before the time-out. At the time-out it exits QUICK (doing
the appropriate rollbacks and backouts). The basis is whether there's any
input from the user. If there's none, QUICK times
out.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bob</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">PS You
could buy more licenses :-)</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com@lists.sowder.com] <B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> July 26, 2007 12:35
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Question about auto logout
in QKGO file</SPAN></FONT><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->How
does the QKGO file's timeout feature work?</SPAN></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Is the
QKGO file (say 20 mins) checking frequently, to kick people out if they've
left a QUICK session online for longer than 20 minutes? Does it only kick
them out AFTER they try to change screens, for
example?</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The issue we're having is
we're running out of powerhouse licenses due to the number of users trying
to access the system from a powerhouse main menu. However, there are
people that leave their sessions on the screen in this main menu, without
logging out and so it books a license. As soon as they go back and try and
do something QKGO seems to kick in and therefore logs them out, basically
saying "…uh uh.. Sorry… you took too long to action your screen". We want
QKGO to do this anyway, and kick them out of the screen whether they are
using it or not.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Thanks</SPAN></FONT>
<o:p></o:p></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Kind
regards,</SPAN></FONT> <o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">---</SPAN></FONT>
<BR><B><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN lang=EN-AU
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lang=EN-AU style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: gray; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Senior
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