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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>How about adding the date, userid and
process id to the current qktrace output ? that would be very useful.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
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powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Deskin, Bob<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 27 July 2007 14:25<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Joe Boyle;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: New feature
suggestion : a designer procedure which,when included in the screen, actions
whenever there is screen activity</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If I think of the effort involved and the
potential risk, and also consider the number of customers to whom this would be
valuable, I have to be honest and say that this one doesn't have much chance of
moving forward. I will keep it, as I do all requests.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Bob</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Joe Boyle
[mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> July 27, 2007 8:00 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Deskin, Bob;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: New feature
suggestion : a designer procedure which,when included in the screen, actions
whenever there is screen activity</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I was thinking along the lines that, when
the procedure is present in a screen, it could contain code which would write a
number of quick session attributes e.g. timestamp, pid, userid, screenname
etc... to a datafile.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>It would then be possible, e.g. at times
of high license usage, to have complete control over which quick sessions
‘live or die’; either by running reports against the datafile, or
by automating logouts based on the values in the datafile. This could be done by
using a quick process in conjunction with ‘run command’ syntax,
where even the interval time is variable.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The qkgo time-out option has no
flexibility. The audit trail/trace options produce a lot of output; this option
would happen only when the procedure is compiled into the screen concerned.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Deskin, Bob<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 26 July 2007 19:27<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Joe Boyle;
fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: New feature
suggestion : a designer procedure which,when included in the screen, actions
whenever there is screen activity</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If you're looking for something that times
out QUICK, the QKGO terminal time-out is supposed to do that based on a prompt
being made and no input happening after a period of time.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>As well, on UNIX and Windows,
there are two types of time out for Axiant thin-client users to check
whether there is activity from the user and whether the client session is still
active.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Bob</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Joe Boyle
[mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> July 26, 2007 1:58 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Deskin, Bob;
fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> New feature suggestion :
a designer procedure which, when included in the screen, actions whenever there
is screen activity</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>New feature suggestion : a designer
procedure which, when included in the screen, actions whenever there is screen
activity.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>A simple application of this would be to
enable a current timestamp for the pid of the quick process to be written to a
file, and make it much easier to determine which quick processes have been
inactive for a certain amount of time, and subsequently either logged out or
killed etc....<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Deskin, Bob<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 26 July 2007 14:36<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Question about auto
logout in QKGO file</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I just tested this in 8.41E (Windows).
It's generic and should work the same way on all platforms. If not, please
report a bug.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>QUICK keeps an internal count if there's a
QKGO Timeout setting. I don't know how often it's checked, but I know that it
issues a warning message a few seconds before the actual time-out. For example,
I set it to 30 seconds and got a warning 7 seconds before the time-out. At the
time-out it exits QUICK (doing the appropriate rollbacks and backouts). The
basis is whether there's any input from the user. If there's none, QUICK times
out.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Bob</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>PS You could buy more licenses :-)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com@lists.sowder.com]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>fernando.olmos@hpa.com.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> July 26, 2007 12:35 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Question about auto
logout in QKGO file</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->How
does the QKGO file's timeout feature work?</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Is the
QKGO file (say 20 mins) checking frequently, to kick people out if they've left
a QUICK session online for longer than 20 minutes? Does it only kick them out
AFTER they try to change screens, for example?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The
issue we're having is we're running out of powerhouse licenses due to the
number of users trying to access the system from a powerhouse main menu.
However, there are people that leave their sessions on the screen in this main
menu, without logging out and so it books a license. As soon as they go back
and try and do something QKGO seems to kick in and therefore logs them out,
basically saying "…uh uh.. Sorry… you took too long to action
your screen". We want QKGO to do this anyway, and kick them out of the
screen whether they are using it or not.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks</span></font>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:blue'>Kind regards,</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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