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<DIV><SPAN class=401420813-11072007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I was
about to suggest running the Tracer with some test data to see what QTP is doing
when I read the last bit. Actually, when we were doing the tracer, we uncovered
more than one thing that we didn't understand. The Tracer issues messages as
things are happening. QTP does a few things that aren't obvious, even with the
flow charts.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=401420813-11072007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>While
I understand how this would benefit developers, we may be getting to the stage
of having to say do you want A or B. I'll keep this one in my file, but I
suspect that it since we have the Tracer, this wouldn't get as high a priority
as other features.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=401420813-11072007><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Bob</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Joe Boyle
[mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> July 10, 2007 6:40
PM<BR><B>To:</B> mcl_systems@telus.net<BR><B>Cc:</B> Deskin, Bob; Ohmes, Matt;
'Richard Witkopp'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Powerhouse
Enhancement - how about a report along the lines of the output from 'set lang
sql' but in this case QTP provides a list showing how it has reorganised the
qtp syntax coded by the programmer etc...<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The moment I clicked
the send button my minds eye caught sight of a cascade of boulders,
‘meteorites’ and greenhouses winging their way through the supernet interway
avenue, straight to my inbox; but I think Mike has provided a pretty hefty
deflection – for which many thanks to Mike </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings
color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">As for my Powerhouse
Enhancement - how about a QTP report along the lines of the output from 'set
lang sql', but in this case QTP provides a list showing how it has reorganised
the qtp syntax coded by the programmer, into each of the phases ( and reported
in exactly the same format as the examples in Matt’s paper ) including
all actions taken in the background by each QTP phase, e.g. for a table
update, the list would show that QTP has read in the record, and exactly at
which point in the QTP list of things to do, etc... You would have to see an
example of Matt’s timing tables to fully appreciate how this would help the
developer.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">That said, this is
possibly already available in the QTP tracer output, but as I haven’t actually
seen this feature in action I wouldn’t know.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Regards,
Joe<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> Michael Lee
[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">mcl_systems@telus.net</st1:PersonName>]
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 10 July 2007
21:10<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Joe
Boyle<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> 'Deskin, Bob';
'Ohmes, Matt'; 'Richard Witkopp'; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: New PowerHouse
Documentation</SPAN></FONT><FONT color=black><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=black size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Shockingly bad joke!
;-).<BR><BR>Good to see Matt come back from the bowels of Cognos blinking into
the sunlight. ;-). I'll say hi to Mr. Solland for you
Matt.<BR><BR><BR>Mike<BR><BR><BR>Joe Boyle
wrote:<BR><BR><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></U1:SMARTTAGTYPE>For
some reason I expected more resistance – Oh! how we chuckled
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma color=black size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com</A>
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href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com</A>]
<B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Deskin,
Bob<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> 10 July 2007
20:23<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Joe Boyle; Ohmes,
Matt; Richard Witkopp; <A
href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: New PowerHouse
Documentation</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV><U2:P></U2:P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I'll take this under
advisement for the next release. It will depend on the resources we have
available to do an update. I do have the paper as well as all of the
information incorporated into the old Advanced PowerHouse Topics
Seminar.<U2:P></U2:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Bob<U2:P></U2:P></SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><FONT face=Tahoma color=black
size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Joe
Boyle [<A
href="mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com">mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com</A>]
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> July 10, 2007 3:19
PM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> Deskin, Bob; Ohmes,
Matt; 'Richard Witkopp'; <A
href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</A><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> RE: New PowerHouse
Documentation</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P><U2:P></U2:P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">By pure chance (and
I haven’t seen this in at least seven years ) I found my copy of Matt’s doc
which runs to thirteen pages. I agree that the general topics are present in
the QTP documentation, but the examples given in Matt’s doc are much clearer
and given in much greater
detail.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><U2:P></U2:P><o:p></o:p></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><U1:P> </U1:P></SPAN></FONT><U2:P></U2:P><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The title of the
paper is ‘The care and feeding of QTP ( How to make it obey, and what to do
when it doesn’t )’; I particularly like the first paragraph, which includes
the line ‘QTP... it seems to have a ( fairly malicious ) mind if its own’
</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Wingdings color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Wingdings">J</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial
color=blue><SPAN
style="COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">.<U1:P></U1:P></SPAN></FONT><U2:P></U2:P><o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I couldn’t remember
the authors name until I saw it yesterday, I always thought it was something
to do with Physics, but ‘Matt’ rings no physics bells for me
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