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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I see you have a good memory too. </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Wingdings><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Wingdings;color:navy'>J</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Matt</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
powerh-l-bounces+matt.ohmes=cognos.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+matt.ohmes=cognos.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Witkopp<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 09, 2007 6:00 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: New PowerHouse
Documentation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Wow, Matt Not-a-zero Ohmes is still a
Cognoid!</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
powerh-l-bounces+rwitkopp=phxa.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+rwitkopp=phxa.com@lists.sowder.com]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><st1:PersonName w:st="on">Ohmes,
Matt</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 09, 2007 3:52
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Deskin, Bob; Joe Boyle; Ken
Langendock; powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: New PowerHouse
Documentation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>At my current age, I’m surprised I
remember anything, but in this case… I do!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>It is exactly as you were supposing Bob.
The original example was a substructure of an item named FULLNAME that was
logically LASTNAME concatenated to FIRSTNAME. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I was example, as I recall, was only to
show what the SILENT option did. The FULLNAME field didn’t show up on the
screen but the EDIT verb in the generated ENTRY procedure executed the Lookup
(and I presume any other dictionary related edits on FULLNAME).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>How FULLNAME got magically transmogrified
into EMPLOYEE_NUMBER is beyond me. I can’t see how the current version
would even work since there doesn’t appear to be any way to enter a value
for EMPLOYEE_NUMBER. As Bob said, someone who didn’t understand the
original intent probably edited it because they didn’t think it was
necessary to restructure items anymore.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Matt</span></font><font color=navy><span style='color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> powerh-l-bounces+matt.ohmes=cognos.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+matt.ohmes=cognos.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Deskin, Bob<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, July 09, 2007 1:26
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Joe Boyle; Ken Langendock;
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: New PowerHouse
Documentation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Joe, thanks for this. No
one's ever mentioned this to me that I can recall. I don't know what the
history is but I'll bet that the original had something like FULLNAME redefined
or substructured by FIRSTNAME and LASTNAME. Once you entered the first and last
names, you want to do a lookup on the whole thing to ensure uniqueness. The
original was probably done for IMAGE. Since there are no redefinitions or
substructures in relational, it was probably changed at that time, and by
someone who didn't understand the original meaning.</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I'll add this to the list
to be fixed in the next release.</span></font><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Bob</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com@lists.sowder.com [mailto:powerh-l-bounces+bob.deskin=cognos.com@lists.sowder.com]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Joe Boyle<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> June 25, 2007 2:45 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Ken Langendock';
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: New PowerHouse
Documentation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I was simply responding
to Bob’s comment ( reproduced below ) perhaps it is now time to make this
syntax meaningful or remove it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If you spot any issues, please let
me know.</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Bob</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>In addition to
Lee’s comments, I imagined that the surname must be a repeating index
which means you would always get the same employeenumber returned for btree
type data files, or a randomly varying employeenumber for RDB tables. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>There are so many
permutations that could be created by adding syntax, or simply imagining a
scenario not established in the example.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The request for an answer
was a tad rhetorical, but there may have been someone that had a plausible one
– it seems not.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ken Langendock<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 25 June 2007 13:07<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: New PowerHouse
Documentation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Are you serious? Are you
still looking for an answer?</span></font><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Ken</span></font><span
lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Joe Boyle<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> June 24, 2007 7:18 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Deskin, Bob';
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: New PowerHouse
Documentation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi Bob,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The stuff below has
always confounded me, and I am staggered to see it still included in the
Qdesign reference Documentation. I first saw this in the early 90’s after
being on my first PH training course and assumed that I was not familiar enough
with PH to understand it – 15 years later and I still don’t
understand it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>In the
following example, an employees file is used to develop a screen that contains
an<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>employee's
surname and first name. The field employee-NUMBER is a silent field that is
used for<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>lookup only,
and QDESIGN generates an edit verb for this field in the default entry
procedure.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The EDIT verb
causes QUICK to perform a lookup, ensuring that an EMPLOYEENUMBER for<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>the specified
LASTNAME and FIRSTNAME exists.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> SCREEN
EMPNAMES<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> FILE
EMPLOYEES PRIMARY<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> FIELD
LASTNAME OF EMPLOYEES REQUIRED NOCHANGE<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> FIELD
FIRSTNAME OF EMPLOYEES<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> FIELD
EMPLOYEENUMBER OF EMPLOYEES &<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> SILENT
LOOKUP ON EMPLOYEES<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> PROCEDURE
ENTRY<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> BEGIN<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> ACCEPT
LASTNAME OF EMPLOYEES<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> ACCEPT
FIRSTNAME OF EMPLOYEES<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> EDIT
EMPLOYEENUMBER OF EMPLOYEES<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>> END<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I am sharing this with
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[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Deskin, Bob<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 22 June 2007 22:14<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> New PowerHouse
Documentation</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>I've just posted the updated documentation to the PowerHouse Web site at
</span></font><span lang=EN-GB><a href="http://powerhouse.cognos.com"><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>http://powerhouse.cognos.com</span></font></a>
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>These books should be up to date as of 3.4E/8.4E. We've also corrected
most of the outstanding documentation issues. The rest will be looked at for
the next version.</span></font><span lang=EN-GB><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>If you spot any issues, please let me know.</span></font><span
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<p><font size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial'>Bob</span></font><span lang=EN-GB> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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