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<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'> I
think PH is failing ( read dead) because PowerHouse is so expensive –
especially training – all of the MS .net related software can be
downloaded for free – I have MSSQLserver, C#, C++, VB and it did,nt cost
me a penny. <o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><i><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue;font-style:italic'>When I
tried to purchase PH software (for NT platforms only), Cognos wouldn’t
sell it me as an individual ( and that, after I worked on the Cognos support
desk for 5 years) with 12 years of PH on VMS, MPE, Unix and Dos collectively.<o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
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powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ken Langendock<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 05 June 2007 22:47<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Is Powerhouse
expanding in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><font
color=black><span lang=EN-US style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I agree with you Richard.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I got a call a few weeks ago from a head
hunter (pimp?) who found me from a resume I posted on Monster.com 3 years ago
(I don't even like that service any more) looking for a Powerhouse contractor.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>After a few very amusing emails back and
forth, I said "good luck" finding a local contractor
with "current" Ph/Vax experience. I told her I could put her in
touch with 4/5 good local UNIX contractors, but none with current Vax
experience.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>The fact that she only found me thru a 3
year old resume is pathetic. There should be a better way for people to find
out about PH and the people who use it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Ken</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Richard Sheehan<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> June 5, 2007 5:32 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Is Powerhouse
expanding in <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><span
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><tt><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>It could be due to the fact that PowerHouse is so
little known still, even by most Cognos People. They seem to mostly be
all about BI.</span></font></tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><br>
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<tt><font face="Courier New">Which is OK; but that's what happens...</font></tt><br>
<br>
<tt><font face="Courier New">I seem to recall someone's sig reading something
like a BORG statement. "Change is inevitable, Resistance is
futile!"</font></tt><br>
<tt><font face="Courier New"> </font></tt><br>
</span></font>How are people going to know that they can hire people locally
(at least within their own country); if there is so little information, easy to
get at, information about PowerHouse on the NET?<br>
<br>
Joe Boyle wrote: <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="country-region" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><O:SMARTTAGTYPE name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
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</xml><![endif]--></O:SMARTTAGTYPE></O:SMARTTAGTYPE>I assumed that it would be
clear to all readers that I include Canada in the USA category, however offensive
(not least patronising) I now see that to be </span></font><font color=blue
face=Wingdings><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:Wingdings;color:blue'>J</span></font><font
color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'>
(but if you look at a map of the world, there does seem to be a reasonable
sub/semi-conscious pseudo apriori continental premise at work here - at least
at first sight </span></font><font color=blue face=Wingdings><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-family:Wingdings;color:blue'>L</span></font><font color=blue
face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-family:Arial;color:blue'> )<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><O:P></O:P>Well there it
is – the final nail in the coffin for PH in the west – I must
assume that all the legacy PH systems are now being farmed out to <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION u5:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on">India</ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></st1:country-region> ( <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION u5:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u5:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">China</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></st1:place></st1:country-region>
next ? ) – I must have been applying my selective vision goggles when I
looked at the email address. That said, I would still be very interested in any
theories on how this list address is getting into the hands of ‘self
confessed zero-PHers’.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><O:P></O:P>Regards ( and
now totally committed to less assuming :-), Joe.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black'><O:P></O:P></span></font>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<a href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Guy Werry<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 05 June 2007 20:14<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Is Powerhouse
expanding in <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION u5:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u5:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><O:P></O:P>Yup, that was what was
driving my assumption.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><O:P></O:P>Of course, we Canadians
are perhaps more prone to false assumptions as we park our dogsleds outside of
our igloos during the driving snowstorms of July! (Tongue firmly in
cheek, of course!)</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><O:P></O:P>Guy.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> -----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca@lists.sowder.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-bounces+guy.werry=hbms.ca@lists.sowder.com</a>]<b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Ken Langendock<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 05, 2007 2:09
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'gaurav shrivastava'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Is Powerhouse
expanding in <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION u5:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u5:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><O:P></O:P></st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><O:P></O:P>Maybe it had something to do with the "yahoo.co.in" in the address
Joe?????</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><b><font size=2 color=black
face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> <a
href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com</a>
[<a href="mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com">mailto:powerh-l-bounces+ken.langendock=rogers.com@lists.sowder.com</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Joe Boyle<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> June 5, 2007 3:03 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Luan Ha; 'gaurav shrivastava'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Is Powerhouse
expanding in <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION u5:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u5:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>it occurred to me that I
have worked along side people with Indian/Asian sounding names all of my life -
what makes you assume that the queries are coming out of India - or at least
arn't from UK/EU/USA residents ? Most email addresses appear to be from
Yahoo servers.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><O:P></O:P>----- Original Message
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background-position-x:0%;background-position-y:50%'><b><font size=2
color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Arial><span
lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:lha@bigpond.net.au" title="lha@bigpond.net.au">Luan Ha</a> <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>To:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com" title="atla38@dsl.pipex.com">'Joe Boyle'</a>
; <a href="mailto:gaushri@yahoo.co.in" title="gaushri@yahoo.co.in">'gaurav
shrivastava'</a> <O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
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size=2 face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <a
href="mailto:powerh-l@lists.sowder.com" title="powerh-l@lists.sowder.com">powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</a>
<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Is Powerhouse expanding in <ST1:COUNTRY-REGION u5:st="on"><ST1:PLACE u5:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGION><O:P></O:P></st1:place></st1:country-region></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>Recently, I
notice there are a lot of Powerhouse queries coming out of <ST1:PLACE u5:st="on"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION u5:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:PLACE></st1:place></st1:country-region>
and I am wondering if more and more<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>companies in <ST1:PLACE u5:st="on"><ST1:COUNTRY-REGION u5:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</ST1:COUNTRY-REGION></ST1:PLACE></st1:place></st1:country-region>
are jumping into Powerhouse or are these queries from companies which are out
source provider<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>for companies in the
Western countries ?<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-AU
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><O:P></O:P>Perhaps some
of our Powerhouse Indian colleagues or Bob Deskin can comment. Thanks.<O:P></O:P></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>-- <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Richard Sheehan<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Computer Analyst, Senior<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>208-282-4430<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Office of Institutional Research<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:PlaceName w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Idaho</span></font></st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType
w:st="on">State</st1:PlaceType> <st1:PlaceType w:st="on">University</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Pocatello</span></font></st1:City>, <st1:State
w:st="on">ID</st1:State> <st1:PostalCode w:st="on">83209-8368</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre></div>
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