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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>By user/password qualifier, I seem to
recall that there used to be an option like - Define/job INC-RUNS2
YAK”USER PASSWD”::DKA100:[RPY.WKP.DATA]INC-RUNS2, where you
substitute USER PASSWD by literals or symbol substitution etc…,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Joe Boyle [mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 23 May 2007 00:51<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Martijn Nabben (<st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Fairfax</st1:place></st1:City>)';
'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Problem with
overwriting subfile on another Vax node</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>How about if you remap the complete
subfile spec as below; it might be worth testing at both process and job
logical levels, you may even need to add the user /password qualifiers,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Fixedsys><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Fixedsys'>Define INC-RUNS2 RPY_DATA YAK::DKA100:[RPY.WKP.DATA]
INC-RUNS2</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
Martijn Nabben (<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Fairfax</st1:City></st1:place>)
[mailto:Martijn.Nabben@fairfaxmedia.co.nz] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 23 May 2007 00:34<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Joe Boyle';
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Problem with overwriting
subfile on another Vax node</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks Joe,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>That is indeed a work-around we had
considered, but it involves quite a few script changes - not to mention testing
and change control. We are aiming to simply redefine the logical without any
software changes.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You're correct in saying, that date/time
stamping would not be necessary.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If the PH List is unable to resolve the
issue, we will have to go down the path of deleting the subfile prior to
creating it.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Martijn</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Joe Boyle
[mailto:atla38@dsl.pipex.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 23 May 2007 11:02
a.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'Martijn Nabben (<st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Fairfax</st1:City></st1:place>)';
powerh-l@lists.sowder.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Problem with
overwriting subfile on another Vax node</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>A work around might be to simply run a dcl
command like ' delete RPY_DATA:INC-RUNS2*.*;*' as part of the script.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>You can always date and time stamp the
subfile creation name if many processes can be running against the same subfile
at the same time - but this doesn't seem likely from your description.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=blue face=Arial><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+atla38=dsl.pipex.com@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Martijn Nabben (<st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Fairfax</st1:City></st1:place>)<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 22 May 2007 23:21<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> 'powerh-l@lists.sowder.com'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Problem with overwriting
subfile on another Vax node</span></font><span lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>We are in the process of migrating a variety of systems from
Vax to Alpha.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The plan is to do a serial migration of one system after
another.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>There are online interfaces between these systems, where a
program from the first system reads and writes subfiles in another system's
data directory.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>In order to maintain this functionality we are currently
trying to redefine the logicals to point to the data directory on the other
node. In other words defining logicals on the Alpha that point to a data
directory on the Vax:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Fixedsys><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Fixedsys'>define RPY_DATA YAK::DKA100:[RPY.WKP.DATA]</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>For reading subfiles and writing brand new subfiles this
seems to be working fine, but when overwriting an existing subfile
(using Quiz for instance), the following error occurs:</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Fixedsys><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Fixedsys'>> set subfile name rpy_data:inc-runs2 keep at emp-id<br>
> go<br>
*W* The permanent subfile RPY_DATA:INC-RUNS2 will be cleared.<br>
<font color=red><span style='color:red'>*W* Data access error.
(RPY_DATA:INC-RUNS2)<br>
%RMS-F-FTM, network file transfer mode precludes operation (SQO set)</span></font></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Our Vax Systems guy has checked all necessary
access/privilege settings, but they all seem to be alright.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Does this ring a bell with anybody? Please let me know if
you need more detailed info, that I haven't considered as important at this
stage.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Alpha: OpenVMS V7.3-2 <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Vax: OpenVMS V7.3<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>PowerHouse: 7.10G1<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Martijn Nabben<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Fairfax</span></font></st1:City><font
size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> Media, <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on">Wellington</st1:City>, <st1:country-region w:st="on">New
Zealand</st1:country-region></st1:place><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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