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<p class=MsoNormal><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City w:st="on"><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Pierre</span></font></st1:City></st1:place><font size=2
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ve done quite a bit of this type
of file output, mainly for sending attachment data to other businesses, or
producing files to use in Pivot table queries on our Intranet.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’ve used quiz, qtp, and qdesign.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Started with quiz, which is easiest, and then
run into the record size problem later.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Used qtp and had your format problems
(using subfiles from quiz does not solve this). Hard work.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Then used qdesign to “echo”
the files out, using run command on a large character define made up of the
necessary files.. This works fine, but is harder work than quiz.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>(I’m talking about a UNIX (HP-UX)
environment – VAX must have equivalent).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Then realised quiz splits the records
gracefully (does not break fields), and even if it did not, one could control
the records with skip statements.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>So I now use quiz. If the file does not
exceed the record size, that’s it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If it does, I just put the record halves
back together with a UNIX script after the quiz. This needs only a few lines in
UNIX, and again I assume VAX can do it easily. (In UNIX if the split is into 2
records, just read, save, read again, then echo both together to desired file
till EOF).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The other advantage of quiz is it’s
easier to have field name headings, with initial heading.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><st1:PersonName w:st="on"><font size=2 color=navy
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>David
Williams</span></font></st1:PersonName><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
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powerh-l-bounces+david_williams=westbury-homes.co.uk@lists.sowder.com
[mailto:powerh-l-bounces+david_williams=westbury-homes.co.uk@lists.sowder.com] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Tremblay.Pierre-McLeod@hydro.qc.ca<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 09 June 2005 22:14<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">powerh-l@lists.sowder.com</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> To Quiz or not to Quiz...</span></font><span
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<p><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>Hi everybody, </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>I'm trying to extract powerhouse data to an ASCII file keeping
the correct dictionary picture format.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>Using Quiz, everything is OK, it's like a report, so the
numbers are formatted according to the dictionary format without having to
specify a picture for every field. Good! But, I cannot exceed
the 263 characters barrier for a record. It wraps the line. ...
hum... too bad...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>Using QTP, I don't have the wraparound problem but the format
of the fields is catastrophic. Presented as they are stored on file,
without any decimal format, the numbers are useless. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>There is certainly a way to create records more than 263
characters long in Quiz or to use the dictionary format in QTP ?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>Surely I'm missing something.... ? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>I'm talking about powerhouse 7.10.E sitting on a vax computer
running OpenVMS 6.2</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>Thank's ! </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>Best regards.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p><u><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></u><u><font
size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Trebuchet MS"'>
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<font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>Pierre McLeod Tremblay</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>Consultant T.I. / I.T. Consultant</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>pmcleod@videotron.ca</span></font> <br>
<font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS"'>819.263.0791 fax: 819.263.0792</span></font> <br>
<i><font size=2 face="Trebuchet MS"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Trebuchet MS";font-style:italic'>My french is better than my english.
Sorry for the Frenglish...</span></font></i> <o:p></o:p></p>
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