From mao@krifapost.dk Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:13:50 +0200 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:13:50 +0200 From: Mikael A Olesen mao@krifapost.dk Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Hello Summer is here and its HOT. Trying to get some work done.....but its hard! I would like to be able to run a specific ph quick screen from anywere in our ph system on the users demand. I want it to be done using a combination of keys. Is this possible in Powerhouse and if - how do I do it? We´re running PH 8.19.C6 on HP3000. Warm Regards Mikael Olesen dkf - Denmark ....Finally! We ARE moving to England From KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:30:14 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:30:14 -0400 From: Knox, Dave (Dallas, CSC) KnoxDa01@unisourcelink.com Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Mikael Have a look at the "thread" command. You can start your screen up on a separate thread and then toggle to it using the "T" command in the action field of any screen. Only other olution I can think of is to add a "use" file to every screen with a designer (nodata) procedure... Regards Dave Knox -----Original Message----- From: Mikael A Olesen [mailto:mao@krifapost.dk] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 6:14 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Hello Summer is here and its HOT. Trying to get some work done.....but its hard! I would like to be able to run a specific ph quick screen from anywere in our ph system on the users demand. I want it to be done using a combination of keys. Is this possible in Powerhouse and if - how do I do it? We´re running PH 8.19.C6 on HP3000. Warm Regards Mikael Olesen dkf - Denmark ....Finally! We ARE moving to England = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From BEdis@usbnc.org Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:03:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:03:58 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts -----Original Message----- From: Mikael A Olesen [mailto:mao@krifapost.dk] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 6:14 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts ....Finally! We ARE moving to England Why? What's wrong with Denmark and right about England? Blue P.S. on the Quick screen thing, are you using a terminal emulator to access the HP3000 and run the PH app.? If so, couldn't you create a script/macro in the emulator to run the Quick screen you want? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From ian.wedge@ramesys.com Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:07:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:07:16 +0100 From: Ian Wedge ian.wedge@ramesys.com Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Mikael Well it was hot but now it's chucking it down again. That's this summer over and done with. When you do get to England be sure to plan your holiday carefully so you don't miss next summer :-) When you say anywhere I take it to mean from within any quick screen as well as menu screens. We have a data driven menu system that allows the user to run any program by keying in its ID or a user-determined name that is held on a reference file. The process relies on this reference file holding details such as the location of the program. If you know this procedure is only required for one specific routine then I expect the reference file calls could be replaced with hard coding. It all results in a "run screen item D_PROGRAM_NAME" command. As Dave Knox pointed out, you'd need to incorporate this into a "use" file if you need it calling from all screens. Perhaps you already have some universal "use" files that could be changed to include this functionality? Ian Wedge Ramesys Professional Services > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Mikael A Olesen > Sent: 01 August 2002 12:14 > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > Hello > > Summer is here and its HOT. Trying to get some work done.....but its hard! > > I would like to be able to run a specific ph quick screen from anywere in > our ph > system on the users demand. I want it to be done using a combination of > keys. > Is this possible in Powerhouse and if - how do I do it? > > We´re running PH 8.19.C6 on HP3000. > > Warm Regards > > Mikael Olesen > dkf - Denmark > ....Finally! We ARE moving to England > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From ian.wedge@ramesys.com Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:14:39 +0100 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:14:39 +0100 From: Ian Wedge ian.wedge@ramesys.com Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Blue My football following colleagues are suggesting a score of 3-nil answers your question. Ian Wedge Ramesys Professional Services > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Edis, Bob > Sent: 01 August 2002 15:04 > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > > ....Finally! We ARE moving to England > > Why? What's wrong with Denmark and right about England? > > Blue From BEdis@usbnc.org Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:19:48 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 09:19:48 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Oh yeah, I remember now. I was in the UK at the time (June) and saw the English flags every where. I was also in Paris when the Turks won their game - much more enthusiastic. Blue -----Original Message----- From: Ian Wedge [mailto:ian.wedge@ramesys.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:15 AM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Blue My football following colleagues are suggesting a score of 3-nil answers your question. Ian Wedge Ramesys Professional Services > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Edis, Bob > Sent: 01 August 2002 15:04 > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > > ....Finally! We ARE moving to England > > Why? What's wrong with Denmark and right about England? > > Blue = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:18:44 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 10:18:44 -0700 From: Witkopp, Richard Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Football?? Oh, you must mean soccer. Real football season doesn't start for another month. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Wedge [mailto:ian.wedge@ramesys.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:15 AM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > Blue > > My football following colleagues are suggesting a score of > 3-nil answers > your question. > > > Ian Wedge > Ramesys Professional Services > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Edis, Bob > > Sent: 01 August 2002 15:04 > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > > > > > > ....Finally! We ARE moving to England > > > > Why? What's wrong with Denmark and right about England? > > > > Blue > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > From BEdis@usbnc.org Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:34:55 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:34:55 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Yes, when does the Aussie Rules season start exactly? -----Original Message----- From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:19 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Football?? Oh, you must mean soccer. Real football season doesn't start for another month. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Wedge [mailto:ian.wedge@ramesys.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:15 AM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > Blue > > My football following colleagues are suggesting a score of > 3-nil answers > your question. > > > Ian Wedge > Ramesys Professional Services > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Edis, Bob > > Sent: 01 August 2002 15:04 > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > > > > > > ....Finally! We ARE moving to England > > > > Why? What's wrong with Denmark and right about England? > > > > Blue > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From guy.werry@hbms.ca Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:40:19 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:40:19 -0500 From: Guy Werry guy.werry@hbms.ca Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Actually, REAL football (Canadian) has been underway for a couple of months ... yes, Aussie Rules are tough, but one of the funniest things that I've ever seen was an interview that took place some years ago during the playoffs. The game was in late October, taking place in a snowstorm at about -15 C (near 0 for you 'mericans) and the player being interviewed was some poor character from FLORIDA who was playing in only his 2nd or 3rd Canadian football game and was on the verge of hypothermia! G.L. (Guy) Werry -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] Sent: August 1, 2002 12:35 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Yes, when does the Aussie Rules season start exactly? -----Original Message----- From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:19 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Football?? Oh, you must mean soccer. Real football season doesn't start for another month. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ian Wedge [mailto:ian.wedge@ramesys.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:15 AM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > Blue > > My football following colleagues are suggesting a score of > 3-nil answers > your question. > > > Ian Wedge > Ramesys Professional Services > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Edis, Bob > > Sent: 01 August 2002 15:04 > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > > > > > > ....Finally! We ARE moving to England > > > > Why? What's wrong with Denmark and right about England? > > > > Blue > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:46:51 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:46:51 -0400 From: Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Subject: Football/Soccer Chatter (was: Calling quick screen using shortcuts) If you folks want to continue this thread via the list, that's fine with me, but at least change the subject line. It is really getting annoying to be have my in-box full of unread methods that appear to be valid technical questions and answers. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Perot Health Care Systems (Harvard Pilgrim Health Care account) voice: 617-509-1212 fax: 617-509-1955 pager: 781-226-2431 From alkarman@wideopenwest.com Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:53:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 12:53:20 -0500 From: Al Karman alkarman@wideopenwest.com Subject: OT: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter (was: Calling quick screen using shortcuts) Nah....it's NOT ANNOYING ENOUGH YET. Al Karman Lady Remington Jewelry alk@ladyremingtonjewelry.com -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:47 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail); powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu Subject: Football/Soccer Chatter (was: Calling quick screen using shortcuts) If you folks want to continue this thread via the list, that's fine with me, but at least change the subject line. It is really getting annoying to be have my in-box full of unread methods that appear to be valid technical questions and answers. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Perot Health Care Systems (Harvard Pilgrim Health Care account) voice: 617-509-1212 fax: 617-509-1955 pager: 781-226-2431 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:18:17 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:18:17 -0700 From: Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX Harold.A.Johnson@gems1.gov.bc.ca Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter (was: Calling quick scre en using shortcuts) Any talk with Canadian content is welcome. (heh heh) I. Am. Canadian. -----Original Message----- From: Al Karman [mailto:alkarman@wideopenwest.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:53 AM To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)'; powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu Subject: OT: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter (was: Calling quick screen using shortcuts) Nah....it's NOT ANNOYING ENOUGH YET. Al Karman Lady Remington Jewelry alk@ladyremingtonjewelry.com -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:47 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail); powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu Subject: Football/Soccer Chatter (was: Calling quick screen using shortcuts) If you folks want to continue this thread via the list, that's fine with me, but at least change the subject line. It is really getting annoying to be have my in-box full of unread methods that appear to be valid technical questions and answers. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Perot Health Care Systems (Harvard Pilgrim Health Care account) voice: 617-509-1212 fax: 617-509-1955 pager: 781-226-2431 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From darren.reely@latticesemi.com Thu, 01 Aug 2002 13:53:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 13:53:36 -0700 From: Darren Reely darren.reely@latticesemi.com Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter (was: Calling quick scre en using shortcuts) Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX wrote: >Any talk with Canadian content is welcome. (heh heh) I. Am. Canadian. > Canadian football isn't seen much in the U.S. of A unless the TV networks are scrambling to fill content due to some sporting strike. So maybe soon, as the baseball players are upset again, eh. As for the 'I. Am. Canadian.' remark. That comes from ads produced for Molson's brewing targeted at Canadian only audiences. U.S. border towns can pick up the adds too through the air waves. A very successful ad referred to as 'The Rant' got a few U.S. Americans upset. Well, according to a Portland Oregon newpaper. It plays off the view Canadians have about the U.S. of A. and vise versa. I suspect what really bugged the U.S. Americans was the suggestion that they do not live in the best country of the world. Da! Darren From Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:09:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:09:18 -0400 From: Ohmes, Matt Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter Darren wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snip >>>>>> Johnson, Harold A EDUC:EX wrote: As for the 'I. Am. Canadian.' remark. That comes from ads produced for Molson's brewing targeted at Canadian only audiences. U.S. border towns can pick up the adds too through the air waves. A very successful ad referred to as 'The Rant' got a few U.S. Americans upset. Well, according to a Portland Oregon newpaper. It plays off the view Canadians have about the U.S. of A. and vise versa. I suspect what really bugged the U.S. Americans was the suggestion that they do not live in the best country of the world. Da! Darren <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Speaking as a "U.S American" who saw the 'The Rant' ad, I thought it was hilarious. And I suspect that not very many U.S. citizens got that upset about it. I also suspect that the on-going timber and logging trade battles had more to do with the Oregonians being short tempered about any kind Canadians comments. (I'm sure tempers are short on both sides of the border on that one.) As for thinking that the U.S. is the best country in the world... Well, of course we think that. Don't Canadians think the same thing about Canada and the English about England and the French about France? ;-) And we're all right, of course. :-) Matt :-) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:21:24 -0700 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:21:24 -0700 From: Witkopp, Richard Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter Matt, I know it's a long way from Texas, but... Oregon and Canada do not share a border. :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Ohmes, Matt [mailto:Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:09 PM > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter > Speaking as a "U.S American" who saw the 'The Rant' ad, I > thought it was > hilarious. And I suspect that not very many U.S. citizens > got that upset > about it. I also suspect that the on-going timber and logging > trade battles > had more to do with the Oregonians being short tempered about any kind > Canadians comments. (I'm sure tempers are short on both sides > of the border > on that one.) From Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:24:41 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:24:41 -0400 From: Ohmes, Matt Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter LOL I know that! But their close enough to be annoyed at each other. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:21 PM To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter Matt, I know it's a long way from Texas, but... Oregon and Canada do not share a border. :-) > -----Original Message----- > From: Ohmes, Matt [mailto:Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:09 PM > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter > Speaking as a "U.S American" who saw the 'The Rant' ad, I > thought it was > hilarious. And I suspect that not very many U.S. citizens > got that upset > about it. I also suspect that the on-going timber and logging > trade battles > had more to do with the Oregonians being short tempered about any kind > Canadians comments. (I'm sure tempers are short on both sides > of the border > on that one.) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From Graeme.Lemin@team.telstra.com Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:29:23 +1000 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 08:29:23 +1000 From: Lemin, Graeme Graeme.Lemin@team.telstra.com Subject: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Bzzt, wrong. The REAL football season is about to draw to a close. Just another 4 rounds to go, and then the finals start. Hmm, I need to stick something Powerhouse in here, so I'm not off topic. Has anybody had experience with writing multiple indexes to a subfile? Any gotchas I need to watch out for? Thanks Graeme Lemin Melbourne, Australia! > -----Original Message----- > From: Witkopp, Richard [SMTP:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] > Sent: Friday, 2 August 2002 3:19 am > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > Football?? Oh, you must mean soccer. Real football > season doesn't start for another month. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian Wedge [mailto:ian.wedge@ramesys.com] > > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:15 AM > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > > > > Blue > > > > My football following colleagues are suggesting a score of > > 3-nil answers > > your question. > > > > > > Ian Wedge > > Ramesys Professional Services > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Edis, Bob > > > Sent: 01 August 2002 15:04 > > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > > > > > > > > > > ....Finally! We ARE moving to England > > > > > > Why? What's wrong with Denmark and right about England? > > > > > > Blue > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > > subscriber. > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From darren.reely@latticesemi.com Thu, 01 Aug 2002 15:35:17 -0700 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 15:35:17 -0700 From: Darren Reely darren.reely@latticesemi.com Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter --------------030905040409070706010804 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Matt, and other interested spectators, Every "American" here I showed 'The Rant' to had a good laugh also. It was in good fun after all. [:-)] And yes, most people think they are from the 'best' country in the world. I also grew up in the best city, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. The Yanks get bad press about this because they seem to like to listen to them self's saying it. And they say it often. Well according to the rest of the world. Or at least as Canadians witness it too often on imported TV shows of all types. Maybe it is time to keep it a secret. [;-)] Here is a small story of biased American media focus. During the 92' Olympics, I was working in Canada with a company that had a lot of imported Americans. As people do we were talking about the coverage we saw, then one American noted how 'more' balanced the reporting of the athletes was on the Canadian TV compared to the U.S. coverage. He went on to say he favored watching the Canadian view, because he got to learn more about the compititors, who were mostly mentioned in cursory ways by the American media. The interesting thing to me was how easily he recognized the problem, and how open about it he was. Since moving to the States I've found that many of my new friends are aware the unbalanced American media. As for the timber wars the Americans usually lose in the World Trade Court. I'll leave that political bouncing ball to the special interest groups. Oh, I mean the politicians. This has been fun, Darren Matt Wrote: > Speaking as a "U.S American" who saw the 'The Rant' ad, I thought it was > hilarious. And I suspect that not very many U.S. citizens got that upset > about it. I also suspect that the on-going timber and logging trade battles > had more to do with the Oregonians being short tempered about any kind > Canadians comments. (I'm sure tempers are short on both sides of the border > on that one.) > As for thinking that the U.S. is the best country in the world... Well, of > course we think that. Don't Canadians think the same thing about Canada and > the English about England and the French about France? [;-)] And we're all > right, of course. [:-)] > Matt [:-)] --------------030905040409070706010804 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="------------040000090308070405060606" --------------040000090308070405060606 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
Matt, and other interested spectators,

Every "American" here I showed 'The Rant' to had a good laugh also.  It was in good fun after all. :-)

And yes, most people think they are from the 'best' country in the world.  I also grew up in the best city, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada.  The Yanks get bad press about this because they seem to like to listen to them self's saying it.  And they say it often.  Well according to the rest of the world.  Or at least as Canadians witness it too often on imported TV shows of all types. Maybe it is time to keep it a secret. ;-)

Here is a small story of biased American media focus. During the 92' Olympics, I was working in Canada with a company t
hat had a lot of imported Americans. As people do we were talking about the coverage we saw, then one American noted how 'more' balanced the reporting of the athletes was on the Canadian TV compared to the U.S. coverage.  He went on to say he favored watching the Canadian view, because he got to learn more about the compititors, who were mostly mentioned in cursory ways by the American media.  The interesting thing to me was how easily he recognized the problem, and how open about it he was.  Since moving to the States I've found that many of my new friends are aware the unbalanced American media.

As for the timber wars the Americans usually lose in the World Trade Court. I'll leave that political bouncing ball to the special interest groups.  Oh, I mean the politicians.

This has been fun,

Darren


Matt Wrote:
> Speaking as a "U.S American" who saw the 'The Rant' ad, I thought it was
> hilarious.  And I suspect that n
ot very many U.S. citizens got that upset
> about it. I also suspect that the on-going timber and logging trade battles
> had more to do with the Oregonians being short tempered about any kind
> Canadians comments. (I'm sure tempers are short on both sides of the border
> on that one.)

> As for thinking that the U.S. is the best country in the world... Well, of
> course we think that. Don't Canadians think the same thing about Canada and
> the English about England and the French about France? ;-)  And we're all
> right, of course. :-)

> Matt :-)
--------------040000090308070405060606-- --------------030905040409070706010804-- From BEdis@usbnc.org Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:37:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:37:13 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Football (was:Calling quick screen using shortcuts) IF source EQ 'Melbourne, Australia!' THEN t_Football = 'Aussie Rules' ELSE t_Football = 'Rugby League' -----Original Message----- From: Lemin, Graeme [mailto:Graeme.Lemin@team.telstra.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:29 PM To: Witkopp, Richard; PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts Bzzt, wrong. The REAL football season is about to draw to a close. Just another 4 rounds to go, and then the finals start. Hmm, I need to stick something Powerhouse in here, so I'm not off topic. Has anybody had experience with writing multiple indexes to a subfile? Any gotchas I need to watch out for? Thanks Graeme Lemin Melbourne, Australia! > -----Original Message----- > From: Witkopp, Richard [SMTP:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] > Sent: Friday, 2 August 2002 3:19 am > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > Football?? Oh, you must mean soccer. Real football > season doesn't start for another month. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ian Wedge [mailto:ian.wedge@ramesys.com] > > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:15 AM > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > > > > Blue > > > > My football following colleagues are suggesting a score of > > 3-nil answers > > your question. > > > > > > Ian Wedge > > Ramesys Professional Services > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Edis, Bob > > > Sent: 01 August 2002 15:04 > > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > > > > > > > > > > > ....Finally! We ARE moving to England > > > > > > Why? What's wrong with Denmark and right about England? > > > > > > Blue > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > > subscriber. > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From murray.scholz@abri.une.edu.au Fri, 02 Aug 2002 09:26:29 +1000 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 09:26:29 +1000 From: Murray Scholz murray.scholz@abri.une.edu.au Subject: Football (was:Calling quick screen using shortcuts) Nice one Bob, though for most Aussies, it's probably more like.... IF source EQ 'Melbourne, Australia!' THEN t_Football = 'Aussie Rules' ELSE BEGIN IF attended_private_school = 'True' THEN t_Football = 'Rugby (Union)' ELSE BEGIN IF parent_of_schoolage_child = 'True' THEN t_Football = 'Soccer' ELSE t_Football = 'Rugby League' END END To Graeme's query regarding indexed subfiles (>1 index) , we have not experienced any problems with them, (We're in a VMS environment, so the usual caveat applies about the slowness of creating records in them, as they are just RMS indexed files and Powerhouse is just creating records using RMS PUT's). Fine for smallish numbers of records, but to be avoided for big numbers. In these cases, we create a regular permanent (seqential file) subfile (this is real speedy), and then out at DCL use $convert/fdl=xxxx.fdl seqsubfile.sf indsubfile.sf and copy across a permanent(saved) copy of the indsubfile.sfd.... and lo and behold you've got yourself an indexed subfile. Murray Scholz Agricultural Business Research Institute University of New England Armidale NSW 2351 Australia "Edis, Bob" wrote: > > IF source EQ 'Melbourne, Australia!' > THEN t_Football = 'Aussie Rules' > ELSE t_Football = 'Rugby League' > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lemin, Graeme [mailto:Graeme.Lemin@team.telstra.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:29 PM > To: Witkopp, Richard; PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Calling quick screen using shortcuts > > Bzzt, wrong. The REAL football season is about to draw to a close. Just > another 4 rounds to go, and then the finals start. > > Hmm, I need to stick something Powerhouse in here, so I'm not off topic. > Has anybody had experience with writing multiple indexes to a subfile? Any > gotchas I need to watch out for? > > Thanks > > Graeme Lemin > Melbourne, Australia! > From ian.wedge@ramesys.com Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:01:41 +0100 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:01:41 +0100 From: Ian Wedge ian.wedge@ramesys.com Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Ohmes, Matt > Sent: 01 August 2002 22:09 > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter > > As for thinking that the U.S. is the best country in the world... Well, of > course we think that. Don't Canadians think the same thing about > Canada and > the English about England and the French about France? ;-) And we're all > right, of course. :-) > > Matt :-) > Strewth. A one line reference to football and it spawns a multi-thread avalanche! Now I remember why lurking is the safe option. And yes, we are all right Matt. Except the French ;-) Ian Wedge (Regular visitor to France and confirmed Australophile) From Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:56:28 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:56:28 -0400 From: Ohmes, Matt Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter Hi Darren (and the aforementioned interested spectators), I just had to post another one of my pet theories before slipping back into lurking obscurity. :-) A lot of the attention and self interest directed at the U.S. (and the annoyance of much of the rest of the world at that attention and self interest) is just a natural outcome of power (economic, military, and political) and visibility. Any powerful, highly visible group has a natural (and slightly unsavory) tendency to begin to think of themselves as the center of the universe. After all, everyone talks about you so you must be important, right? (Think of movie stars, fashion designer, etc.) It's not a character flaw, it's human nature. As for US news / sports coverage being "biased", I think it's part of the same phenomenon. It's certainly not an American character flaw, it's again, human nature. And it is the business of news organizations to cover what their viewers want to see. It's all about proximity, visibility, and power. I'm sure in Vatican City, most of the news is about the Pope first (local and powerful), but I'll bet a fair amount of coverage is also about the rest of Europe (powerful and close) and U.S. (farther away, but very powerful, visible, and influential). As you drop down the power and visibility spectrum relative to others around you, you tend to get more "balanced" in your coverage. Any population of any size is going to have it's bell curve of folks who will range from dismissing their self-importance completely to believing in it completely. In my experience, most Americans know that we are no smarter and no better than most of the rest of the people in the world. But it is hard to resist the temptation to think of yourself as "very important" when you belong to a visible and influential group. For an interesting perspective, think of England in the Victorian age or read Victor Hugo's comments on the greatness of Napoleonic France in Les Miserables. Jeeze, how did I get so philosophical this morning? Better get to work. ;-) Cheers, Matt :-) -----Original Message----- From: Darren Reely [mailto:darren.reely@latticesemi.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:35 PM To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' Subject: Re: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter Matt, and other interested spectators, Every "American" here I showed 'The Rant' to had a good laugh also. It was in good fun after all. [:-)] And yes, most people think they are from the 'best' country in the world. I also grew up in the best city, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. The Yanks get bad press about this because they seem to like to listen to them self's saying it. And they say it often. Well according to the rest of the world. Or at least as Canadians witness it too often on imported TV shows of all types. Maybe it is time to keep it a secret. [;-)] Here is a small story of biased American media focus. During the 92' Olympics, I was working in Canada with a company that had a lot of imported Americans. As people do we were talking about the coverage we saw, then one American noted how 'more' balanced the reporting of the athletes was on the Canadian TV compared to the U.S. coverage. He went on to say he favored watching the Canadian view, because he got to learn more about the compititors, who were mostly mentioned in cursory ways by the American media. The interesting thing to me was how easily he recognized the problem, and how open about it he was. Since moving to the States I've found that many of my new friends are aware the unbalanced American media. As for the timber wars the Americans usually lose in the World Trade Court. I'll leave that political bouncing ball to the special interest groups. Oh, I mean the politicians. This has been fun, Darren Matt Wrote: > Speaking as a "U.S American" who saw the 'The Rant' ad, I thought it was > hilarious. And I suspect that not very many U.S. citizens got that upset > about it. I also suspect that the on-going timber and logging trade battles > had more to do with the Oregonians being short tempered about any kind > Canadians comments. (I'm sure tempers are short on both sides of the border > on that one.) > As for thinking that the U.S. is the best country in the world... Well, of > course we think that. Don't Canadians think the same thing about Canada and > the English about England and the French about France? [;-)] And we're all > right, of course. [:-)] > Matt [:-)] This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From BEdis@usbnc.org Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:22:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:22:10 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter Matt I agree with much of what you said. However, how do you explain that the average European, Asian, Australasian or even Canadian has a much better 'world' view (geopolitical awareness) than the average American? I've experienced this time and again has I traveled around the world. How come Australasia (Australia, NZ, etc) is hardly EVER mentioned in US news? 1. no civil unrest therefore no news (except on NPR) 2. small level of trade with USA or Australasian products 're-packaged' therefore no constant exposure 3. distance/cost of travel high therefore few travel agents here bother to offer it as an option 4. Steve Erwin therefore belief it's just a beautiful, mysterious, dangerous, wild and unsophisticated place. 5. culture too similar to North American or European to be deemed distinctive enough to be of interest. (except for those demeaning Fosters ads that present us a just a bunch of drunken yobbos) Could the answers be: 1. start a civil war, institute a dictatorship aligned with Iran or attack a US interest? 2. flood the US market with illegal guns, drugs or bad meat 3. subsidise air travel and give passengers sleeping pills? 4. put Steve in a business suit? 5. create a national costume, dye our skin green and speak only Esperanto? Blue -----Original Message----- From: Ohmes, Matt [mailto:Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:56 AM To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter Hi Darren (and the aforementioned interested spectators), I just had to post another one of my pet theories before slipping back into lurking obscurity. :-) A lot of the attention and self interest directed at the U.S. (and the annoyance of much of the rest of the world at that attention and self interest) is just a natural outcome of power (economic, military, and political) and visibility. Any powerful, highly visible group has a natural (and slightly unsavory) tendency to begin to think of themselves as the center of the universe. After all, everyone talks about you so you must be important, right? (Think of movie stars, fashion designer, etc.) It's not a character flaw, it's human nature. As for US news / sports coverage being "biased", I think it's part of the same phenomenon. It's certainly not an American character flaw, it's again, human nature. And it is the business of news organizations to cover what their viewers want to see. It's all about proximity, visibility, and power. I'm sure in Vatican City, most of the news is about the Pope first (local and powerful), but I'll bet a fair amount of coverage is also about the rest of Europe (powerful and close) and U.S. (farther away, but very powerful, visible, and influential). As you drop down the power and visibility spectrum relative to others around you, you tend to get more "balanced" in your coverage. Any population of any size is going to have it's bell curve of folks who will range from dismissing their self-importance completely to believing in it completely. In my experience, most Americans know that we are no smarter and no better than most of the rest of the people in the world. But it is hard to resist the temptation to think of yourself as "very important" when you belong to a visible and influential group. For an interesting perspective, think of England in the Victorian age or read Victor Hugo's comments on the greatness of Napoleonic France in Les Miserables. Jeeze, how did I get so philosophical this morning? Better get to work. ;-) Cheers, Matt :-) -----Original Message----- From: Darren Reely [mailto:darren.reely@latticesemi.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:35 PM To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' Subject: Re: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter Matt, and other interested spectators, Every "American" here I showed 'The Rant' to had a good laugh also. It was in good fun after all. [:-)] And yes, most people think they are from the 'best' country in the world. I also grew up in the best city, Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. The Yanks get bad press about this because they seem to like to listen to them self's saying it. And they say it often. Well according to the rest of the world. Or at least as Canadians witness it too often on imported TV shows of all types. Maybe it is time to keep it a secret. [;-)] Here is a small story of biased American media focus. During the 92' Olympics, I was working in Canada with a company that had a lot of imported Americans. As people do we were talking about the coverage we saw, then one American noted how 'more' balanced the reporting of the athletes was on the Canadian TV compared to the U.S. coverage. He went on to say he favored watching the Canadian view, because he got to learn more about the compititors, who were mostly mentioned in cursory ways by the American media. The interesting thing to me was how easily he recognized the problem, and how open about it he was. Since moving to the States I've found that many of my new friends are aware the unbalanced American media. As for the timber wars the Americans usually lose in the World Trade Court. I'll leave that political bouncing ball to the special interest groups. Oh, I mean the politicians. This has been fun, Darren Matt Wrote: > Speaking as a "U.S American" who saw the 'The Rant' ad, I thought it was > hilarious. And I suspect that not very many U.S. citizens got that upset > about it. I also suspect that the on-going timber and logging trade battles > had more to do with the Oregonians being short tempered about any kind > Canadians comments. (I'm sure tempers are short on both sides of the border > on that one.) > As for thinking that the U.S. is the best country in the world... Well, of > course we think that. Don't Canadians think the same thing about Canada and > the English about England and the French about France? [;-)] And we're all > right, of course. [:-)] > Matt [:-)] This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:53:39 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:53:39 -0400 From: Ohmes, Matt Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter Hi Blue, You said: >>> snip >>>> I agree with much of what you said. However, how do you explain that the average European, Asian, Australasian or even Canadian has a much better 'world' view (geopolitical awareness) than the average American? I've experienced this time and again has I traveled around the world. <<<<<<<<<<<<< But that was the whole point. :-) Power, influence, and visibility tend to make any group think the world revolves around them. You will ALWAYS see more "balanced" reporting from the middle of the power/visibility spectrum than the top. An elephant in a room with 10 cats will notice the cats but won't pay them much attention. The cats will notice each other much more than the elephant does. ;-) Over assigning self-importance because of power and visibility is a HUMAN character flaw, not an American one. We're aware of it and most of us try to resist. But it's also a human trait to vilify others who are powerful and influential, isn't it? ;-) I'm just saying that we're all human and in similar circumstances, as a collective group, we all behave the same. Individually, we just do the best we can. Matt :-) This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From smiller@the-med.org Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:10:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:10:06 -0500 From: Miller, Maurice smiller@the-med.org Subject: UNSUBSCRIBE This message is in MIME format. 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Hi Blue,

You said:

>>> snip >>>>
I agree with much of what you said.  However, = how do you explain that the
average European, Asian, Australasian or even = Canadian has a much better
'world' view (geopolitical awareness) than the = average American?  I've
experienced this time and again has I traveled = around the world.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<

But that was the whole point. :-) Power, influence, = and visibility tend to
make any group think the world revolves around = them.  

You will ALWAYS see more "balanced" = reporting from the middle of the
power/visibility spectrum than the top. An elephant = in a room with 10 cats
will notice the cats but won't pay them much = attention.  The cats will
notice each other much more than the elephant does. = ;-)

Over assigning self-importance because of power and = visibility is a HUMAN
character flaw, not an American one.  We're = aware of it and most of us try
to resist.  But it's also a human trait to = vilify others who are powerful
and influential, isn't it? ;-) 

I'm just saying that we're all human and in similar = circumstances, as a
collective group, we all behave the same. = Individually, we just do the best
we can.

Matt :-)

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C23A3F.110228A0-- From Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:05:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 10:05:17 -0700 From: Witkopp, Richard Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Subject: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter I don't think that's it at all. We're mostly worried about stuff that can ruin our day. Unrest in the middle east? Oil prices go up. Instability in Central or South America? Oil again, and we got too many big loans out to those countries. Problems in Australia? Who cares? We can live without Foster's and sheeps wool. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ohmes, Matt [mailto:Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com] > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:54 AM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter > > > Hi Blue, > > You said: > > >>> snip >>>> > I agree with much of what you said. However, how do you > explain that the > average European, Asian, Australasian or even Canadian has a > much better > 'world' view (geopolitical awareness) than the average American? I've > experienced this time and again has I traveled around the world. > <<<<<<<<<<<<< > > But that was the whole point. :-) Power, influence, and > visibility tend to > make any group think the world revolves around them. > > You will ALWAYS see more "balanced" reporting from the middle of the > power/visibility spectrum than the top. An elephant in a room > with 10 cats > will notice the cats but won't pay them much attention. The cats will > notice each other much more than the elephant does. ;-) > > Over assigning self-importance because of power and > visibility is a HUMAN > character flaw, not an American one. We're aware of it and > most of us try > to resist. But it's also a human trait to vilify others who > are powerful > and influential, isn't it? ;-) > > I'm just saying that we're all human and in similar > circumstances, as a > collective group, we all behave the same. Individually, we > just do the best > we can. > > Matt :-) > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. If you > have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended > recipient, you > may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any > attachments, delete it immediately from your system and > notify the sender > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > From BEdis@usbnc.org Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:21:40 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 12:21:40 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: International Perspective (was: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter) Thank you Richard, you demonstrated a point I want to make. There are 130+ million sheep in Australia (not sure how many in NZ) but Australia's and perhaps New Zealand's biggest foreign export is NOT wool/mutton or Fosters but services! After services comes mining resources and then manufactured goods (might be the other way round). Oz hasn't relied on agriculture as the mainstay of its economy for over 40 years. You're right, we can live without Fosters beer (made in Canada) and sheep's wool, but not the other stuff. By the way, how can we steer this conversation back to a Cognos ADT perspective? How the different regions of the world dealing with the downturn in the IT economy? Are Cognos' sales doing better or worse in different places? I've actually started to see ads for Cognos expertise (BI and ADT) required in India! What about Russia and Eastern Europe? Have the ADT tools managed to expand there? Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:05 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter I don't think that's it at all. We're mostly worried about stuff that can ruin our day. Unrest in the middle east? Oil prices go up. Instability in Central or South America? Oil again, and we got too many big loans out to those countries. Problems in Australia? Who cares? We can live without Foster's and sheeps wool. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ohmes, Matt [mailto:Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com] > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:54 AM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter > > > Hi Blue, > > You said: > > >>> snip >>>> > I agree with much of what you said. However, how do you > explain that the > average European, Asian, Australasian or even Canadian has a > much better > 'world' view (geopolitical awareness) than the average American? I've > experienced this time and again has I traveled around the world. > <<<<<<<<<<<<< > > But that was the whole point. :-) Power, influence, and > visibility tend to > make any group think the world revolves around them. > > You will ALWAYS see more "balanced" reporting from the middle of the > power/visibility spectrum than the top. An elephant in a room > with 10 cats > will notice the cats but won't pay them much attention. The cats will > notice each other much more than the elephant does. ;-) > > Over assigning self-importance because of power and > visibility is a HUMAN > character flaw, not an American one. We're aware of it and > most of us try > to resist. But it's also a human trait to vilify others who > are powerful > and influential, isn't it? ;-) > > I'm just saying that we're all human and in similar > circumstances, as a > collective group, we all behave the same. Individually, we > just do the best > we can. > > Matt :-) > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. If you > have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended > recipient, you > may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any > attachments, delete it immediately from your system and > notify the sender > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. 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From george.j.wen@us.abb.com Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:05:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 16:05:22 -0500 From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com george.j.wen@us.abb.com Subject: International Perspective (was: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football /Soccer Chatter) I don't know about India, but a short stint in Russia sounds interesting. I want to steer the conversation back to ADT as well but I can't resist a couple of comments. I'm a naturalized citizen of the US. Not that that gives me any greater knowledge but maybe a bit of perspective. I have heard this about people outside the US having a "better world view" for a long time now but it didn't stop the German people from embracing Hitler and didn't stop the US from joining the war and ushering in the Marshall plan to get countries back on their feet. What matters is the ideals and actions of a people. Not that we're perfect - by any standard. If a country has a "better" world view that's the result of someone agenda what good is it?? Yes our educational system needs to emphasize world politics more and so does out media but how do you do it? The media cares about ratings not the general knowledge level of politics by the citizenry. So what do we do. Let's start a grass roots world movement that will save the environment, control population, and end war and poverty. I really wish we could but we'll all probably just keep drinking beer and watching the game (football of course - go Packers). |----------> | | |----------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------| | | >--------------------------------------------------------------------| Thank you Richard, you demonstrated a point I want to make. There are 130+ million sheep in Australia (not sure how many in NZ) but Australia's and perhaps New Zealand's biggest foreign export is NOT wool/mutton or Fosters but services! After services comes mining resources and then manufactured goods (might be the other way round). Oz hasn't relied on agriculture as the mainstay of its economy for over 40 years. You're right, we can live without Fosters beer (made in Canada) and sheep's wool, but not the other stuff. By the way, how can we steer this conversation back to a Cognos ADT perspective? How the different regions of the world dealing with the downturn in the IT economy? Are Cognos' sales doing better or worse in different places? I've actually started to see ads for Cognos expertise (BI and ADT) required in India! What about Russia and Eastern Europe? Have the ADT tools managed to expand there? Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:05 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter I don't think that's it at all. We're mostly worried about stuff that can ruin our day. Unrest in the middle east? Oil prices go up. Instability in Central or South America? Oil again, and we got too many big loans out to those countries. Problems in Australia? Who cares? We can live without Foster's and sheeps wool. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ohmes, Matt [mailto:Matt.Ohmes@COGNOS.com] > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:54 AM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: CANADIAN RE: RE: Football/Soccer Chatter > > > Hi Blue, > > You said: > > >>> snip >>>> > I agree with much of what you said. However, how do you > explain that the > average European, Asian, Australasian or even Canadian has a > much better > 'world' view (geopolitical awareness) than the average American? I've > experienced this time and again has I traveled around the world. > <<<<<<<<<<<<< > > But that was the whole point. :-) Power, influence, and > visibility tend to > make any group think the world revolves around them. > > You will ALWAYS see more "balanced" reporting from the middle of the > power/visibility spectrum than the top. An elephant in a room > with 10 cats > will notice the cats but won't pay them much attention. The cats will > notice each other much more than the elephant does. ;-) > > Over assigning self-importance because of power and > visibility is a HUMAN > character flaw, not an American one. We're aware of it and > most of us try > to resist. But it's also a human trait to vilify others who > are powerful > and influential, isn't it? ;-) > > I'm just saying that we're all human and in similar > circumstances, as a > collective group, we all behave the same. Individually, we > just do the best > we can. > > Matt :-) > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. If you > have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended > recipient, you > may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any > attachments, delete it immediately from your system and > notify the sender > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. 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From leslie.tsukamoto@cae.com Sat, 3 Aug 2002 16:07:29 -0500 Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 16:07:29 -0500 From: Leslie Tsukamoto leslie.tsukamoto@cae.com Subject: quiz error accessing db on different server Currently I have been supporting our quiz environment on an hp9000 unix box and an oracle 7.3.4 version database. The database has up until now resided on the same box as the local powerhouse quiz install and dictionary. We are faced with a requirement in moving that oracle database to a seperate Sun server. We have successfully ported the database and I have made sure that the appropriate networking configurations have been accomplished as I can successfully: #1 - ping the remote server #2 - I can access the remote server and database with sqlplus On the new server I have renamed the database instance and I have now gone into my dictionary definition file and added an entry for the new remote test database: this is the code for the two databases we are using: database schdb & type Oracle & open ORACLE & userid "sched1" password "xanadu" owner SCHED1 database sunschdb & type Oracle & open ORACLE & userid "sched1@simup01" password "sunxanadu" owner SCHED1 when I recreate my dictionary with the new second database definition file I receive no errors and everything loads fine. However, when I then go into quiz and attempt access a table within the new database I receive the following error: > access s_staff_mst in sunschdb *E* The file S_CLS_CLIENT wasn't found in the data dictionary. > access s_staff_mst in sunschdb *W* SQL START DBE error (ORACLE@sched1@simup01/tstaboo) DMS-E-GENERAL, A general exception has occurred during operation 'attach database'. ORA-03106: fatal two-task communication protocol error *E* The file S_STAFF_MST IN SUNSCHDB wasn't found in the data dictionary. > Additionally, when I go into qshow and attempt to show the database this is the error that I get as well: ? 1902/08/03 /$DICT_TOP/DICTS Page 22 F I L E R E P O R T For DICTIONARY: /u01/devdict/DICTS Database: SUNSCHDB Organization: RELATIONAL Null Values Allowed:No Type: ORACLE Open: ORACLE Owner: SCHED1 Userid: sched1@simup01 *W* SQL START DBE error (ORACLE@sched1@simup01/tstaboo) DMS-E-GENERAL, A general exception has occurred during operation 'attach database'. ORA-03106: fatal two-task communication protocol error Records & Sizes: ** none ** Any ideas what I may be missing?? Leslie J. Tsukamoto Manager of Programming CAE - SimuFlite Training International Email: ltsukamoto@simuflite.com Office Phone: (407)445-0226 Voice Mail: (972)456-8316 Fax: (407)295-9493 From jpearce@rmi.net Sat, 03 Aug 2002 23:10:56 -0600 Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2002 23:10:56 -0600 From: John Pearce jpearce@rmi.net Subject: Telephone index My users have asked that I provide an index on the telephone number field in a dataset. It's presently a character field to allow notes like "non-pub" or "disconnected" to explain why there's no phone number. The environment is HP ImageSQL and PH 8.39. My concern is the performance issues created by 46,500 blank phone numbers that would be in one chain. There are fewer than 1000 telephone numbers that contain notes like "non-pub" so that is not a concern (at least not yet). To avoid the lengthy chain of blank telephone numbers I'm thinking about adding code to the PREUPDATE procedure to replace a blank phone number with a string consisting of a $ plus the unique six digit ID number for the record. Then have a POSTFIND procedure that checks for the leading $ and blanks out the field for display. Does anyone see any problems with this approach? Thanks, John ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Pearce | Bethesda Management Company Speaking for only myself | Colorado Springs, CO USA From kjian@wmdata.com Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:30:20 +0200 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 09:30:20 +0200 From: Ibarra-Hansen Kjeld kjian@wmdata.com Subject: quiz error accessing db on different server HI We had the same problem on AIX. Upgrade to PH823.d7 and use ORACLE 8 client to access the databases. After doing this we have no problem anymore. Remember, that you have to declare both databases in the tnsnames.ora. Best, __________________________________ Kjeld Ibarra-Hansen WM-data eApplications Lautrupvang 10 2750 Ballerup DK-Denmark Tel.: (+45) 4478 4000, direkte: (+45) 4483 8405, mobil (+45) 21 71 72 27 Fax: (+45) 4468 5263 / (+45) 4483 8485 mailto:kjian@wmdata.com http://www.wmdata.dk -----Original Message----- From: Leslie Tsukamoto [mailto:leslie.tsukamoto@cae.com] Sent: 3. august 2002 23:07 To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: quiz error accessing db on different server Currently I have been supporting our quiz environment on an hp9000 unix box and an oracle 7.3.4 version database. The database has up until now resided on the same box as the local powerhouse quiz install and dictionary. We are faced with a requirement in moving that oracle database to a seperate Sun server. We have successfully ported the database and I have made sure that the appropriate networking configurations have been accomplished as I can successfully: #1 - ping the remote server #2 - I can access the remote server and database with sqlplus On the new server I have renamed the database instance and I have now gone into my dictionary definition file and added an entry for the new remote test database: this is the code for the two databases we are using: database schdb & type Oracle & open ORACLE & userid "sched1" password "xanadu" owner SCHED1 database sunschdb & type Oracle & open ORACLE & userid "sched1@simup01" password "sunxanadu" owner SCHED1 when I recreate my dictionary with the new second database definition file I receive no errors and everything loads fine. However, when I then go into quiz and attempt access a table within the new database I receive the following error: > access s_staff_mst in sunschdb *E* The file S_CLS_CLIENT wasn't found in the data dictionary. > access s_staff_mst in sunschdb *W* SQL START DBE error (ORACLE@sched1@simup01/tstaboo) DMS-E-GENERAL, A general exception has occurred during operation 'attach database'. ORA-03106: fatal two-task communication protocol error *E* The file S_STAFF_MST IN SUNSCHDB wasn't found in the data dictionary. > Additionally, when I go into qshow and attempt to show the database this is the error that I get as well: ? 1902/08/03 /$DICT_TOP/DICTS Page 22 F I L E R E P O R T For DICTIONARY: /u01/devdict/DICTS Database: SUNSCHDB Organization: RELATIONAL Null Values Allowed:No Type: ORACLE Open: ORACLE Owner: SCHED1 Userid: sched1@simup01 *W* SQL START DBE error (ORACLE@sched1@simup01/tstaboo) DMS-E-GENERAL, A general exception has occurred during operation 'attach database'. ORA-03106: fatal two-task communication protocol error Records & Sizes: ** none ** Any ideas what I may be missing?? Leslie J. Tsukamoto Manager of Programming CAE - SimuFlite Training International Email: ltsukamoto@simuflite.com Office Phone: (407)445-0226 Voice Mail: (972)456-8316 Fax: (407)295-9493 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:08:59 -0700 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:08:59 -0700 From: David Morrison - Corporate dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com Subject: Telephone index John, I don't know about the HP environment, but on the AS/400 you can define an index that only includes some of the records. You should look into this, first. David Morrison -----Original Message----- From: John Pearce [mailto:jpearce@rmi.net] Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 10:11 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Telephone index My users have asked that I provide an index on the telephone number field in a dataset. It's presently a character field to allow notes like "non-pub" or "disconnected" to explain why there's no phone number. The environment is HP ImageSQL and PH 8.39. My concern is the performance issues created by 46,500 blank phone numbers that would be in one chain. There are fewer than 1000 telephone numbers that contain notes like "non-pub" so that is not a concern (at least not yet). To avoid the lengthy chain of blank telephone numbers I'm thinking about adding code to the PREUPDATE procedure to replace a blank phone number with a string consisting of a $ plus the unique six digit ID number for the record. Then have a POSTFIND procedure that checks for the leading $ and blanks out the field for display. Does anyone see any problems with this approach? Thanks, John ------------------------------------------------------------------ John Pearce | Bethesda Management Company Speaking for only myself | Colorado Springs, CO USA = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Roger.Kesterson@mtdsw.com Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:30:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:30:23 -0700 From: Roger Kesterson Roger.Kesterson@mtdsw.com Subject: Quick ending with no error PH 7.10.G2, OpenVMS 7.1 I have a Quick program that runs in batch, and has been running reliably for quite some time. Yesterday, I added one temporary item, two files, and an internal procedure. Now, when the batch job runs Quick, this program exits immediately with no error messages, only a "QUICK session completed" message. There is an initialize procedure that does a setsystemval very first thing to define a symbol. When the Quick program exits, the batch job does a show symbol, and the symbol is not defined, which tells me it is not even entering the initialize procedure. The same changes were made to another Quick batch program that is almost identical, and it worked fine. The only real difference is that the one that doesn't work is compiled on one machine, and run on another. If I comment out the changes, and recompile, it works fine again. The program is too large to include here, I'm just hoping someone out there has seen this problem before, and already knows what might be causing it. If not, I'll try Cognos support. Thanks, Roger Kesterson MTD Southwest, Inc. From BEdis@usbnc.org Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:39:24 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 11:39:24 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Quick ending with no error Does it work outside the DCL job? If not have you tried using the debugger? -----Original Message----- From: Roger Kesterson [mailto:Roger.Kesterson@mtdsw.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:30 AM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Quick ending with no error PH 7.10.G2, OpenVMS 7.1 I have a Quick program that runs in batch, and has been running reliably for quite some time. Yesterday, I added one temporary item, two files, and an internal procedure. Now, when the batch job runs Quick, this program exits immediately with no error messages, only a "QUICK session completed" message. There is an initialize procedure that does a setsystemval very first thing to define a symbol. When the Quick program exits, the batch job does a show symbol, and the symbol is not defined, which tells me it is not even entering the initialize procedure. The same changes were made to another Quick batch program that is almost identical, and it worked fine. The only real difference is that the one that doesn't work is compiled on one machine, and run on another. If I comment out the changes, and recompile, it works fine again. The program is too large to include here, I'm just hoping someone out there has seen this problem before, and already knows what might be causing it. If not, I'll try Cognos support. Thanks, Roger Kesterson MTD Southwest, Inc. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From merol.newman@ramesys.com Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:27:37 +0100 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:27:37 +0100 From: Merol Newman merol.newman@ramesys.com Subject: FW: Quick ending with no error Hello Roger I don't think errors in Quick screens run in batch get written to the log file in VMS. I'm sure I've had to log on to customers' systems and run screens interactively in order to find the error. I'm thinking there might be a data access error. Since the screen is compiled on one machine and run on another, do the new files physically exist, and in the expected directory, or if the location uses a logical, does it exist within the job? regards Merol merol.newman@ramesys.com Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788 823601 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Edis, Bob Sent: 06 August 2002 17:39 To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Quick ending with no error Does it work outside the DCL job? If not have you tried using the debugger? -----Original Message----- From: Roger Kesterson [mailto:Roger.Kesterson@mtdsw.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:30 AM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Quick ending with no error PH 7.10.G2, OpenVMS 7.1 I have a Quick program that runs in batch, and has been running reliably for quite some time. Yesterday, I added one temporary item, two files, and an internal procedure. Now, when the batch job runs Quick, this program exits immediately with no error messages, only a "QUICK session completed" message. There is an initialize procedure that does a setsystemval very first thing to define a symbol. When the Quick program exits, the batch job does a show symbol, and the symbol is not defined, which tells me it is not even entering the initialize procedure. The same changes were made to another Quick batch program that is almost identical, and it worked fine. The only real difference is that the one that doesn't work is compiled on one machine, and run on another. If I comment out the changes, and recompile, it works fine again. The program is too large to include here, I'm just hoping someone out there has seen this problem before, and already knows what might be causing it. If not, I'll try Cognos support. Thanks, Roger Kesterson MTD Southwest, Inc. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From bruce@schuck.com Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:01:48 -0700 (PDT) From: bruce@schuck.com bruce@schuck.com Subject: FW: Quick ending with no error You might want to check if all the QK* files are defined. Interactively do a $sho logical qk*. In batch put $Show Logical qk* just before your job. You might have to explicity define qkerr or qkerror to be a file. I don't have Powerhouse in front of me or I would list the actual names for you. "Merol Newman" wrote: > > Hello Roger > > I don't think errors in Quick screens run in batch get > written to the log file > in VMS. I'm sure I've had to log on to customers' > systems and run screens > interactively in order to find the error. > > I'm thinking there might be a data access error. Since > the screen is compiled on > one machine and run on another, do the new files > physically exist, and in the > expected directory, or if the location uses a logical, > does it exist within the > job? > > regards > Merol > > merol.newman@ramesys.com > Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL > phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788 823601 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] > On Behalf Of Edis, Bob > Sent: 06 August 2002 17:39 > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Quick ending with no error > > > Does it work outside the DCL job? > If not have you tried using the debugger? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Kesterson [mailto:Roger.Kesterson@mtdsw.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 9:30 AM > To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' > Subject: Quick ending with no error > > > PH 7.10.G2, OpenVMS 7.1 > > I have a Quick program that runs in batch, and has been > running reliably for > quite some time. Yesterday, I added one temporary > item, two files, and an > internal procedure. Now, when the batch job runs > Quick, this program exits > immediately with no error messages, only a "QUICK > session completed" > message. There is an initialize procedure that does a > setsystemval very > first thing to define a symbol. When the Quick program > exits, the batch job > does a show symbol, and the symbol is not defined, > which tells me it is not > even entering the initialize procedure. > > The same changes were made to another Quick batch > program that is almost > identical, and it worked fine. The only real > difference is that the one > that doesn't work is compiled on one machine, and run > on another. If I > comment out the changes, and recompile, it works fine > again. > > The program is too large to include here, I'm just > hoping someone out there > has seen this problem before, and already knows what > might be causing it. > If not, I'll try Cognos support. > > Thanks, > > Roger Kesterson > MTD Southwest, Inc. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must > be a subscriber. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must > be a subscriber. > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must > be a subscriber. From Roger.Kesterson@mtdsw.com Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:37:55 -0700 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:37:55 -0700 From: Roger Kesterson Roger.Kesterson@mtdsw.com Subject: Quick ending with no error Mystery solved...thanks for all the responses. I figured it had to have something to do with the new file, some kind of access or security issue. To find out, I wrote a short Quiz report, compiled it, copied it over, and tried to run it. I got a "file not in dictionary" error - I forgot to copy the PHD files over when I added the file. Duh. The only remaining questions is, why didn't Quick issue that error? Undocumented feature, I suppose... From ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:12:40 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:12:40 -0400 From: Nancy Tietz ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU Subject: question on HP3000, Indexed Subfile, KSAM and COBOL Here is a listf of an Indexed Subfile (Q U I Z (PowerHouse 8.19.C2)) T3433F90 644 230B FAK 1967 3999999 17 4096 7 * We want to be able to access this file in a COBOL program using the index that is defined in the subfile. Is this possible? Do we access it like we would a Ksam file? Thank you, Nancy From george.j.wen@us.abb.com Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:26:40 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 13:26:40 -0500 From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com george.j.wen@us.abb.com Subject: null values / AS400 No politics today just work (darn!). I'm trying to load null values into a field. I thought I remembered doing it once on an HP to the tune of [ DEF fieldname CHAR*nn = "" ]. The double quotes with nothing in between would do the trick. I tried it on the 400 but when I test with Matchpattern I looks as if I'm not there. Don't see it in the Quiz manual - can anyone help. Thanks, George From dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:48:46 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:48:46 -0700 From: David Morrison - Corporate dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com Subject: null values / AS400 I don't think that the PowerHouse-OS/400 combination supports null values in defined or temporary fields or in data dictionary fields. Certainly, DEFINE fieldname CHAR*nn = "" or " " or '' or ' ' will all result in blanks, not null. David Morrison -----Original Message----- From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:27 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: null values / AS400 No politics today just work (darn!). I'm trying to load null values into a field. I thought I remembered doing it once on an HP to the tune of [ DEF fieldname CHAR*nn = "" ]. The double quotes with nothing in between would do the trick. I tried it on the 400 but when I test with Matchpattern I looks as if I'm not there. Don't see it in the Quiz manual - can anyone help. Thanks, George = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:51:13 -0400 Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 18:51:13 -0400 From: Wint, Cheryl Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com Subject: Axiant experiences This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23A77.1A15F100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The recent posting on the Cognos listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was by no means authorized by the corporation and was purely an independent action on the part of Mr. Pantos. It does NOT represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development efforts in any way, and in particular with our definitive plans to use Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our product according to established timeframes. AMISYS has taken immediate measures to ensure that a situation like this never happens again. It is our goal to ensure that our customers and valued vendor partners have correct information about our product development strategy and vision for the future. Cheryl Wint Vice President Customer Support and Services AMISYS, LLC. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23A77.1A15F100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Axiant experiences

The recent posting on the Cognos = listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS = LLC, was by no means authorized by the corporation and was purely an = independent action on the part of Mr. Pantos.  It does NOT = represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development efforts in any way, = and in particular with our definitive plans to use Axiant as the means = to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our product according to = established timeframes.

AMISYS has taken immediate measures = to ensure that a situation like this never happens again.

It is our goal to ensure that our = customers and valued vendor partners have correct information about our = product development strategy and vision for the future.


Cheryl Wint
Vice President
Customer Support and Services
AMISYS, LLC.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C23A77.1A15F100-- From shyam@vividit.com Tue, 6 Aug 2002 17:36:21 -0500 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 17:36:21 -0500 From: Shyam Kumbhat shyam@vividit.com Subject: VAX/PowerHouse/Cobol P/A position in Chicago - north suburbs Hello, Vivid Technologies is an IT Staffing firm. Our client in North Suburban Chicago wants to hire a Programmer/Analyst with at least 2 years of experience with · COGNOS Powerhouse Quiz, Quick and QTP development. · COBOL development. Relational Database concepts/Structured Query Language knowledge. The position requires afterhours support one month of the year (mainly at month-end). The team has 15 developers on it. If you are interested, please email an updated resume and salary requirements. The client cannot offer relocation assistance for candidates outside Chicago. Shyam Kumbhat Vivid Technologies 312-255-0450 www.vividit.com From BEdis@usbnc.org Wed, 7 Aug 2002 16:42:32 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 16:42:32 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Axiant experiences This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E5B.55D391B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Excuse me Cheryl, but I'm curious as to why you had to put our such a terse message implying Jim is a bad boy? Your email has now sparked a curiosity that did not exist before about what Amisys is planning. What is Amisys planning? Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Wint, Cheryl [mailto:Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:51 PM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Axiant experiences Importance: High The recent posting on the Cognos listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was by no means authorized by the corporation and was purely an independent action on the part of Mr. Pantos. It does NOT represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development efforts in any way, and in particular with our definitive plans to use Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our product according to established timeframes. AMISYS has taken immediate measures to ensure that a situation like this never happens again. It is our goal to ensure that our customers and valued vendor partners have correct information about our product development strategy and vision for the future. Cheryl Wint Vice President Customer Support and Services AMISYS, LLC. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E5B.55D391B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Axiant experiences
Excuse me Cheryl, but I'm curious as to why you had to put our such a terse message implying Jim is a bad boy?
 
Your email has now sparked a curiosity that did not exist before about what Amisys is planning.
 
What is Amisys planning?
 
Regards,
Blue
-----Original Message-----
From: Wint, Cheryl [mailto:Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:51 PM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
Subject: Axiant experiences
Importance: High


The recent posting on the Cognos listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was by no means authorized by the corporation and was purely an independent action on the part of Mr. Pantos.  It does NOT represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development efforts in any way, and in particular with our definitive plans to use Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our product according to established timeframes.

AMISYS has taken immediate measures to ensure that a situation like this never happens again.

It is our goal to ensure that our customers and valued vendor partners have correct information about our product development strategy and vision for the future.


Cheryl Wint
Vice President
Customer Support and Services
AMISYS, LLC.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E5B.55D391B0-- From Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:53:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:53:47 -0700 From: Witkopp, Richard Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Subject: Axiant experiences This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E5C.E861EBC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" LOL, I had not even noticed he was at Amisys. -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:43 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Axiant experiences Excuse me Cheryl, but I'm curious as to why you had to put our such a terse message implying Jim is a bad boy? Your email has now sparked a curiosity that did not exist before about what Amisys is planning. What is Amisys planning? Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Wint, Cheryl [mailto:Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:51 PM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Axiant experiences Importance: High The recent posting on the Cognos listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was by no means authorized by the corporation and was purely an independent action on the part of Mr. Pantos. It does NOT represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development efforts in any way, and in particular with our definitive plans to use Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our product according to established timeframes. AMISYS has taken immediate measures to ensure that a situation like this never happens again. It is our goal to ensure that our customers and valued vendor partners have correct information about our product development strategy and vision for the future. Cheryl Wint Vice President Customer Support and Services AMISYS, LLC. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E5C.E861EBC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Axiant experiences
LOL, I had not even noticed he was at Amisys.
-----Original Message-----
From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:43 PM
To: PowerHouse List (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Axiant experiences

Excuse me Cheryl, but I'm curious as to why you had to put our such a terse message implying Jim is a bad boy?
 
Your email has now sparked a curiosity that did not exist before about what Amisys is planning.
 
What is Amisys planning?
 
Regards,
Blue
-----Original Message-----
From: Wint, Cheryl [mailto:Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:51 PM
To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
Subject: Axiant experiences
Importance: High


The recent posting on the Cognos listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was by no means authorized by the corporation and was purely an independent action on the part of Mr. Pantos.  It does NOT represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development efforts in any way, and in particular with our definitive plans to use Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our product according to established timeframes.

AMISYS has taken immediate measures to ensure that a situation like this never happens again.

It is our goal to ensure that our customers and valued vendor partners have correct information about our product development strategy and vision for the future.


Cheryl Wint
Vice President
Customer Support and Services
AMISYS, LLC.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E5C.E861EBC0-- From JPENNEY@co.pierce.wa.us Wed, 07 Aug 2002 15:15:16 -0700 Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 15:15:16 -0700 From: John Penney JPENNEY@co.pierce.wa.us Subject: Axiant experiences Cheryl: I too am interested in what Amisys is planning as I found his and your postings to the powerhouse-l confusing to put it mildly. Thank you for your courtesy. JP >>> "Witkopp, Richard" 08/07/02 02:53PM >>> LOL, I had not even noticed he was at Amisys. -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 2:43 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Axiant experiences Excuse me Cheryl, but I'm curious as to why you had to put our such a terse message implying Jim is a bad boy? Your email has now sparked a curiosity that did not exist before about what Amisys is planning. What is Amisys planning? Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Wint, Cheryl [mailto:Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:51 PM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Axiant experiences Importance: High The recent posting on the Cognos listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was by no means authorized by the corporation and was purely an independent action on the part of Mr. Pantos. It does NOT represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development efforts in any way, and in particular with our definitive plans to use Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our product according to established timeframes. AMISYS has taken immediate measures to ensure that a situation like this never happens again. It is our goal to ensure that our customers and valued vendor partners have correct information about our product development strategy and vision for the future. Cheryl Wint Vice President Customer Support and Services AMISYS, LLC. From BEdis@usbnc.org Wed, 7 Aug 2002 16:45:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 16:45:06 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: null values / AS400 G'day George How is your PHD set up to handle nulls? I usually set it to replace nulls with a blank or zero depending on the data type. Blue -----Original Message----- From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:27 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: null values / AS400 No politics today just work (darn!). I'm trying to load null values into a field. I thought I remembered doing it once on an HP to the tune of [ DEF fieldname CHAR*nn = "" ]. The double quotes with nothing in between would do the trick. I tried it on the 400 but when I test with Matchpattern I looks as if I'm not there. Don't see it in the Quiz manual - can anyone help. Thanks, George = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Martijn.Nabben@inl.co.nz Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:43:30 +1200 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:43:30 +1200 From: Martijn Nabben (INL) Martijn.Nabben@inl.co.nz Subject: Axiant experiences This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E63.DA4EB1B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi all, I have to agree with all other PowerHouse-list members, Cheryl. Before your email was sent out I wasn't even interested in what your colleague Jim had to say (no offence, Jim, but we just don't use Axiant (yet)). But now it appears to have attracted quite some interest from all over the world, as far as the South Pacific, where I'm at. I'm very eager to find out what Amisys is planning to do with your current (obviously legacy) systems. We all may learn from it too. At this point in time Amisys seems to have gained negative attention only. It may be wise for your genaral manager to take immediate measures to ensure that no one will ever put Amisys in a bad position again. As for Jim: Good luck with your Axiant migration. Please keep in touch to teach us about your migration process. Martijn Nabben Wellington, New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Wint, Cheryl [mailto:Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com] Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2002 10:51 To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Axiant experiences Importance: High The recent posting on the Cognos listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was by no means authorized by the corporation and was purely an independent action on the part of Mr. Pantos. It does NOT represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development efforts in any way, and in particular with our definitive plans to use Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our product according to established timeframes. AMISYS has taken immediate measures to ensure that a situation like this never happens again. It is our goal to ensure that our customers and valued vendor partners have correct information about our product development strategy and vision for the future. Cheryl Wint Vice President Customer Support and Services AMISYS, LLC. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E63.DA4EB1B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Message
Hi all,
 
I have to agree with all other PowerHouse-list members, Cheryl. Before your email was sent out I wasn't even interested in what your colleague Jim had to say (no offence, Jim, but we just don't use Axiant (yet)). But now it appears to have attracted quite some interest from all over the world, as far as the South Pacific, where I'm at.
I'm very eager to find out what Amisys is planning to do with your current (obviously legacy) systems. We all may learn from it too.
 
At this point in time Amisys seems to have gained negative attention only. It may be wise for your genaral manager to take immediate measures to ensure that no one will ever put Amisys in a bad position again.
 
As for Jim: Good luck with your Axiant migration. Please keep in touch to teach us about your migration process.
 
Martijn Nabben
Wellington, New Zealand
-----Original Message-----
From: Wint, Cheryl [mailto:Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com]
Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2002 10:51
To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
Subject: Axiant experiences
Importance: High


The recent posting on the Cognos listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was by no means authorized by the corporation and was purely an independent action on the part of Mr. Pantos.  It does NOT represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development efforts in any way, and in particular with our definitive plans to use Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our product according to established timeframes.

AMISYS has taken immediate measures to ensure that a situation like this never happens again.

It is our goal to ensure that our customers and valued vendor partners have correct information about our product development strategy and vision for the future.


Cheryl Wint
Vice President
Customer Support and Services
AMISYS, LLC.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E63.DA4EB1B0-- From RSheehan@ci.bellevue.wa.us Wed, 7 Aug 2002 16:10:02 -0700 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 16:10:02 -0700 From: Sheehan, Richard RSheehan@ci.bellevue.wa.us Subject: Axiant experiences This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E67.8F4B459E Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This discussion seems to be unnecessarily concerned about its original = "potential" impact. =20 This "list" is for the discussion of Cognos related issues, problems, = questions, . . . =20 Requests about a particular product, OS, or platform, should not lead = others to think anything other than someone one is "gathering" = information. =20 Just because I would like to know what someone thinks are going to be = next week's winning lottery numbers doesn't mean everyone should think = I'm going to buy a ticket with those numbers. =20 My 3.14159 cents. =20 Richard S Sheehan=20 1.425.452.6177=20 Business Systems Analyst=20 City of Bellevue, WA=20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: Martijn Nabben (INL) [mailto:Martijn.Nabben@inl.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:44 PM To: 'Wint, Cheryl'; 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'; 'Pantos, Jim' Subject: RE: Axiant experiences Hi all, =20 I have to agree with all other PowerHouse-list members, Cheryl. Before = your email was sent out I wasn't even interested in what your colleague = Jim had to say (no offence, Jim, but we just don't use Axiant (yet)). = But now it appears to have attracted quite some interest from all over = the world, as far as the South Pacific, where I'm at. I'm very eager to find out what Amisys is planning to do with your = current (obviously legacy) systems. We all may learn from it too. =20 At this point in time Amisys seems to have gained negative attention = only. It may be wise for your genaral manager to take immediate measures = to ensure that no one will ever put Amisys in a bad position again. =20 As for Jim: Good luck with your Axiant migration. Please keep in touch = to teach us about your migration process. =20 Martijn Nabben Wellington, New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Wint, Cheryl [mailto:Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com]=20 Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2002 10:51 To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Axiant experiences Importance: High The recent posting on the Cognos listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical = Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was by no means authorized by the = corporation and was purely an independent action on the part of Mr. = Pantos. It does NOT represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development = efforts in any way, and in particular with our definitive plans to use = Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our = product according to established timeframes.=20 AMISYS has taken immediate measures to ensure that a situation like this = never happens again.=20 It is our goal to ensure that our customers and valued vendor partners = have correct information about our product development strategy and = vision for the future. Cheryl Wint=20 Vice President=20 Customer Support and Services=20 AMISYS, LLC.=20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E67.8F4B459E Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
This=20 discussion seems to be unnecessarily concerned about its original = "potential"=20 impact.
 
This=20 "list" is for the discussion of Cognos related issues, problems, = questions, . .=20 .
 
Requests about a particular product, OS, or platform, should = not lead=20 others to think anything other than someone one is "gathering"=20 information.
 
Just=20 because I would like to know what someone thinks are going to be next = week's=20 winning lottery numbers doesn't mean everyone should think I'm going to = buy a=20 ticket with those numbers.
 
My=20 3.14159 cents.
 

Richard S = Sheehan
1.425.452.6177
Business Systems Analyst =
City of Bellevue, WA=20

 
-----Original Message-----
From: Martijn Nabben = (INL)=20 [mailto:Martijn.Nabben@inl.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, August = 07, 2002=20 3:44 PM
To: 'Wint, Cheryl'; 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'; = 'Pantos,=20 Jim'
Subject: RE: Axiant experiences

Hi=20 all,
 
I=20 have to agree with all other PowerHouse-list members, Cheryl. Before = your=20 email was sent out I wasn't even interested in what your colleague Jim = had to=20 say (no offence, Jim, but we just don't use Axiant (yet)). But now it = appears=20 to have attracted quite some interest from all over the world, as far = as the=20 South Pacific, where I'm at.
I'm=20 very eager to find out what Amisys is planning to do with your current = (obviously legacy) systems. We all may learn from it = too.
 
At=20 this point in time Amisys seems to have gained negative attention = only. It may=20 be wise for your genaral manager to take immediate measures to ensure = that no=20 one will ever put Amisys in a bad position again.
 
As=20 for Jim: Good luck with your Axiant migration. Please keep in touch to = teach=20 us about your migration process.
 
Martijn Nabben
Wellington, New Zealand
-----Original Message-----
From: = Wint, Cheryl=20 [mailto:Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com]
Sent: Saturday, 3 = August 2002=20 10:51
To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'
Subject: = Axiant=20 experiences
Importance: High


The recent posting on the Cognos = listserver=20 by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was = by no=20 means authorized by the corporation and was purely an independent = action on=20 the part of Mr. Pantos.  It does NOT represent the stated = strategy of=20 AMISYS development efforts in any way, and in particular with our = definitive=20 plans to use Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI = interface=20 to our product according to established timeframes.

AMISYS has taken immediate = measures to=20 ensure that a situation like this never happens again.

It is our goal to ensure that our = customers=20 and valued vendor partners have correct information about our = product=20 development strategy and vision for the future.


Cheryl Wint
Vice President
Customer Support and Services =
AMISYS, LLC.=20

------_=_NextPart_001_01C23E67.8F4B459E-- From richard.latimer@airways.co.nz Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:29:02 +1200 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:29:02 +1200 From: Latimer, Richard richard.latimer@airways.co.nz Subject: null values / AS400 George, I think David is correct - DB2/400 allows null values but they have to be specifically included in the file specification when it is created. My reading of the 6.07 PDL manual is the PH doesn't appear to allow creation of null fields (maybe Cognos left that bit out !) Maybe you need a "psuedo - null" eg we have a lot of time fields in our system and represent an unknown time with 99:99:99 since 0 (00:00:00) can be a genuine value. regards Richard -----Original Message----- From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2002 6:27 a.m. To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: null values / AS400 No politics today just work (darn!). I'm trying to load null values into a field. I thought I remembered doing it once on an HP to the tune of [ DEF fieldname CHAR*nn = "" ]. The double quotes with nothing in between would do the trick. I tried it on the 400 but when I test with Matchpattern I looks as if I'm not there. Don't see it in the Quiz manual - can anyone help. Thanks, George = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. ********************************************************************** This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. Views expressed in this email may not be those of the Airways Corporation of New Zealand Limited ********************************************************************** From kent.heatherington@sympatico.ca Wed, 7 Aug 2002 20:10:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 20:10:28 -0400 From: kent.heatherington@sympatico.ca kent.heatherington@sympatico.ca Subject: Quick in Batch errors Roger, Perhaps define QKOUT to a DCL file, then run your batch job, and you might see your errors in there. I'll bet you have qkout to null Kent Heatherington A canuck in Dallas who refuses to use 'y'all From steve_franklin@yahoo.com Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:14:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:14:44 -0500 From: Steve Franklin steve_franklin@yahoo.com Subject: Axiant Question This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C23E5F.D6D95DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone attempted to connect from Axiant to data on an AS400? I can setup an ODBC connection to the AS400 and I can even download the data structures. When I try to access the data, I get various database errors. I am using the ODBC connection that comes with Client Access Express. I know this is a rather strange question, but if I can figure out how to do this, it will make converting our existing customers easier. It will also allow us to use the AS400 as sort of a database server. Steve Franklin Stw Inc. Email: steve_franklin@yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C23E5F.D6D95DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has = anyone=20 attempted to connect from Axiant to data on an AS400?  I can setup = an ODBC=20 connection to the AS400 and I can even download the data = structures.  When=20 I try to access the data, I get various database errors.  I am = using the=20 ODBC connection that comes with Client Access = Express. 
 
I = know this is a=20 rather strange question, but if I can figure out how to do this, it will = make=20 converting our existing customers easier.  It will also allow us to = use the=20 AS400 as sort of a database server.
 
 
Steve=20 Franklin
Stw=20 Inc.
Email: = steve_franklin@yahoo.com
 
------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C23E5F.D6D95DE0-- From FindlayC@turpinltd.com Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:48:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:48:30 +0100 From: Colin Findlay FindlayC@turpinltd.com Subject: Conversion utility Hi there. Does anyone know of a standalone utility which will convert QTP code into SQL? Or alternatively, had anyone achieved the same result using Axiant? Regards, Colin From mjohns@accubanc.com Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:38:40 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:38:40 -0500 From: mjohns@accubanc.com mjohns@accubanc.com Subject: Axiant experiences I agree with Richard, add my 2.5 cents "Sheehan, Richard" @cube.swau.edu on 08/07/2002 06:10:02 PM Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu To: cc: Subject: RE: Axiant experiences This discussion seems to be unnecessarily concerned about its original "potential" impact. This "list" is for the discussion of Cognos related issues, problems, questions, . . Requests about a particular product, OS, or platform, should not lead others to think anything other than someone one is "gathering" information. Just because I would like to know what someone thinks are going to be next week's winning lottery numbers doesn't mean everyone should think I'm going to buy a ticket with those numbers. My 3.14159 cents. Richard S Sheehan 1.425.452.6177 Business Systems Analyst City of Bellevue, WA -----Original Message----- From: Martijn Nabben (INL) [mailto:Martijn.Nabben@inl.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:44 PM To: 'Wint, Cheryl'; 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'; 'Pantos, Jim' Subject: RE: Axiant experiences Hi all, I have to agree with all other PowerHouse-list members, Cheryl. Before your email was sent out I wasn't even interested in what your colleague Jim had to say (no offence, Jim, but we just don't use Axiant (yet)). But now it appears to have attracted quite some interest from all over the world, as far as the South Pacific, where I'm at. I'm very eager to find out what Amisys is planning to do with your current (obviously legacy) systems. We all may learn from it too. At this point in time Amisys seems to have gained negative attention only. It may be wise for your genaral manager to take immediate measures to ensure that no one will ever put Amisys in a bad position again. As for Jim: Good luck with your Axiant migration. Please keep in touch to teach us about your migration process. Martijn Nabben Wellington, New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Wint, Cheryl [mailto:Cheryl.Wint@amisysllc.com] Sent: Saturday, 3 August 2002 10:51 To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Axiant experiences Importance: High The recent posting on the Cognos listserver by Jim Pantos, Sr. Technical Development Advisor for AMISYS LLC, was by no means authorized by the corporation and was purely an independent action on the part of Mr. Pantos.  It does NOT represent the stated strategy of AMISYS development efforts in any way, and in particular with our definitive plans to use Axiant as the means to provide our clients with a GUI interface to our product according to established timeframes. AMISYS has taken immediate measures to ensure that a situation like this never happens again. It is our goal to ensure that our customers and valued vendor partners have correct information about our product development strategy and vision for the future. Cheryl Wint Vice President Customer Support and Services AMISYS, LLC. From BEdis@usbnc.org Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:39:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:39:23 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Conversion utility That's a very interesting question. Which SQL? How would you deal with requests? stored procedures? How would you deal with environment variables? How would you deal with multiple output files? How would you deal with non-relational data structures? How would you deal with parallel joins? unions? I'm sure it could be done but based on my experience with SQL the result would be very messy and difficult to understand, especially the table join statements. Why do you ask the question? Wouldn't't embedded SQL in an existing QTP program work or are you dumping QTP altogether? Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Colin Findlay [mailto:FindlayC@turpinltd.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 3:49 AM To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Conversion utility Hi there. Does anyone know of a standalone utility which will convert QTP code into SQL? Or alternatively, had anyone achieved the same result using Axiant? Regards, Colin = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From george.j.wen@us.abb.com Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:24:06 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:24:06 -0500 From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com george.j.wen@us.abb.com Subject: null values / AS400 --0__=IuXEKfYEHhTJvYJpb6nuYRZ6e8i77rjTIsFecbT4x9hrszxLgRy8WKxC Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline This was part of a specifications for an interface for another system. We've found another way to deal with the issue. Curiously though the Matchpattern function can test for Null but we can't create a null field value. Like you say Richard - it must have been a bit left out/forgot and missing bits are hard to find, eh? Thanks again to all for responding. Life is easier for having this List to go to. George |-------------> |(Embedded | |image moved | |to file: | |pic19758.pcx)| | | |-------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------| |"Latimer, Richard" | |08/07/2002 06:29 PM | >--------------------------------------------------------------------| To: George J. Wen/NB/USFAC/ABB@ABB_US01, powerh-l@lists.swau.edu cc: Subject: RE: null values / AS400 Security Level:? Internal George, I think David is correct - DB2/400 allows null values but they have to be specifically included in the file specification when it is created. My reading of the 6.07 PDL manual is the PH doesn't appear to allow creation of null fields (maybe Cognos left that bit out !) Maybe you need a "psuedo - null" eg we have a lot of time fields in our system and represent an unknown time with 99:99:99 since 0 (00:00:00) can be a genuine value. regards Richard -----Original Message----- From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com [mailto:george.j.wen@us.abb.com] Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2002 6:27 a.m. To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: null values / AS400 No politics today just work (darn!). I'm trying to load null values into a field. I thought I remembered doing it once on an HP to the tune of [ DEF fieldname CHAR*nn = "" ]. The double quotes with nothing in between would do the trick. I tried it on the 400 but when I test with Matchpattern I looks as if I'm not there. Don't see it in the Quiz manual - can anyone help. Thanks, George = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. ********************************************************************** This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. Views expressed in this email may not be those of the Airways Corporation of New Zealand Limited ********************************************************************** = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. --0__=IuXEKfYEHhTJvYJpb6nuYRZ6e8i77rjTIsFecbT4x9hrszxLgRy8WKxC Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="pic19758.pcx" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pic19758.pcx" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 CgUBCAAAAABBADEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAABQgABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA= --0__=IuXEKfYEHhTJvYJpb6nuYRZ6e8i77rjTIsFecbT4x9hrszxLgRy8WKxC-- From Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:24:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 12:24:52 -0400 From: Whittall, Conrad Conrad.Whittall@Cognos.COM Subject: null values / AS400 Its been quite a while since I used PowerHouse on an AS/400, and so I can't be sure that the technique that I (and many others) have used on other platforms to manipulate non-printable characters will work on that platform. However, in the ASCII collating sequence NULL has an internal value of zero, just as the ESCAPE character has an internal value of 27. So, assuming that NULL in EBCDIC also has an internal value of zero, you might try the following: DEFINE null_value INTEGER SIZE 2 = 0 ; It is important to use SIZE 2 (not *2) as this ensures that two ; bytes of storage are used for the internal representation, so ; resulting in a string two bytes in length when the CHARACTERS ; function is used... DEFINE null_char CHARACTER*1 = SUBSTRING(CHARACTERS(null_value),2,1) Then assign "null_char" to whichever field you wish to contain NULL. Note that while the result of the CHARACTERS function in this case will be a two-byte string, where each byte has a binary value of zero, some hardware architectures are "big-endian" and others are "little-endian". So using this technique for any other (non-zero) value will require that you know which "endian" orientation your hardware uses, so that you know whether to take the first byte or the second byte of the resulting two-byte string to get the character that you're after. You can always determine this by first trying out the technique on a printable character, such as the letter "A". Hope I got the AS/400-specific bits right...but I'm sure you get the idea. Best regards, Conrad Conrad Whittall e-Learning Architect, Global Education Services Cognos Incorporated, 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa, Ontario, K1G 4K9, Canada ================================================== This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From audrey.yates@cdhb.govt.nz Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:10:19 +1200 Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:10:19 +1200 From: Audrey Yates audrey.yates@cdhb.govt.nz Subject: Axiant / Win2000 version control Anyone have good recommendations of products to use for code version control in a Win 2000 environment? Thanks Audrey ********************************************************************** ** This email and attachments have been scanned for content and viruses and is believed to be clean ** This email or attachments may contain confidential or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Any use, redistribution, disclosure, or reproduction of this message, except as intended, is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and remove all copies of the message, including any attachments. Any views or opinions expressed in this email (unless otherwise stated) may not represent those of Canterbury District Health Board ********************************************************************** From ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:15:34 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:15:34 -0400 From: Nancy Tietz ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU Subject: FW: RE: question on HP3000, Indexed Subfile, KSAM and COBOL It works!! Thanks for everyone's help. nt -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Davis Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 5:29 PM To: Nancy Tietz Subject: RE: RE: question on HP3000, Indexed Subfile, KSAM and COBOL Nancy, I plugged the file in just like a KSAM file and it worked like a charm. Thanks for your help. -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Tietz Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:15 PM To: Joseph Davis Cc: Judith Engram Subject: FW: RE: question on HP3000, Indexed Subfile, KSAM and COBOL -----Original Message----- From: Glenn A Mitchell [mailto:mitchg@maine.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:16 PM To: ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU Subject: Re: RE: question on HP3000, Indexed Subfile, KSAM and COBOL In all honesty, I have never even created a KSAM subfile. But, I have done Powerhouse/COBOL on the e3000 since the late 1970's and am quite comfortable that the file can be read and processed via keyed access in COBOL as an indexed file(i.e. KSAM). Shouldn't take more than a few minutes to throw something together to do that. If you'd like, send me a copy of the file, and I'll be glad to throw together a little demo that does the keyed access. Glenn ---Original Message--- From: ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU At: 2002-8-8 9:30:19 Subject: RE: question on HP3000, Indexed Subfile, KSAM and COBOL Thank you. The programmer is going to try it. It sounds like you've tried it before. At least you sound more confident than the others. Have you? Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Glenn A Mitchell [mailto:mitchg@maine.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 4:28 PM To: ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU Subject: question on HP3000, Indexed Subfile, KSAM and COBOL Yes and yes. Note the file characteristics of FAK (Fixed-length, ASCII, KSAM). For COBOL programming purposes, it's just another KSAM file. Glenn Mitchell 3GM Associates, Inc 207-772-9370 ---Original Message--- From: ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU At: 2002-8-7 14:12:40 Subject: question on HP3000, Indexed Subfile, KSAM and COBOL Here is a listf of an Indexed Subfile (Q U I Z (PowerHouse 8.19.C2)) T3433F90 644 230B FAK 1967 3999999 17 4096 7 * We want to be able to access this file in a COBOL program using the index that is defined in the subfile. Is this possible? Do we access it like we would a Ksam file? Thank you, Nancy = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From BEdis@usbnc.org Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:23:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:23:58 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Axiant / Win2000 version control Build you own in Axiant! Actually PVCS from Merant is pretty good. Find it at www.merant.com/pvcs/solutions/scm/index.html. Blue -----Original Message----- From: Audrey Yates [mailto:audrey.yates@cdhb.govt.nz] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:10 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Axiant / Win2000 version control Anyone have good recommendations of products to use for code version control in a Win 2000 environment? Thanks Audrey ********************************************************************** ** This email and attachments have been scanned for content and viruses and is believed to be clean ** This email or attachments may contain confidential or legally privileged information intended for the sole use of the addressee(s). Any use, redistribution, disclosure, or reproduction of this message, except as intended, is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please notify the sender and remove all copies of the message, including any attachments. Any views or opinions expressed in this email (unless otherwise stated) may not represent those of Canterbury District Health Board ********************************************************************** = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From IOlson@saputo.com Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:42:37 -0700 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:42:37 -0700 From: Olson, Ingemar IOlson@saputo.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) There has been very little discussion on this group about upgrades to 8.30. Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide leads me to suspect that it may be the former. How about it folks? If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course what I'm most interested in hearing. Ingemar Olson From Bill.Michael@ipaper.com Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:44:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 12:44:54 -0500 From: Bill D Michael Bill.Michael@ipaper.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) We went from 7.10 to 8.10, then 8.20, then (now in progress) to 8.30. The first steps were _extremely_ painful, and I would warn everyone to pay very close attention to locking issues (ie; test with many users!) before turning 8.30 loose in production, but at this point most of the major bugs have been beaten into submission. The minor ones still hanging around at least all have reasonable workarounds. I'd suggest a "straight upgrade", with _no_ changes other than what is required by the compilers; don't try to move to Oracle simultaneously or anything like that. Remember that this is not like all prior version upgrades - this is "all new code", coming from the Unix releases, plus VMS stuff "added on". There are more than the normal number of differences. Bill ------------------ "This posting reflects the individual views and opinions of the author and does not necessarily represent the views and opinions of International Paper." "Olson, Ingemar" Sent by: cc: powerh-l-admin@cub Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) e.swau.edu 08/09/02 11:42 AM There has been very little discussion on this group about upgrades to 8.30. Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide leads me to suspect that it may be the former. How about it folks? If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course what I'm most interested in hearing. Ingemar Olson = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:23:05 -0400 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 15:23:05 -0400 From: Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Subject: QTP error HPe3000; PowerHouse 8.19C3 QTP is not used much here. One of our programmers is using QTP to load a dataset from a subfile. The data set is linked to an automatic master. The process fails immediately with the message: Cannot find record with this key/index value. Since the error message displays the Linkitem, I used it to add a record in QUERY, and this was successful. What are we not seeing here. Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Perot Health Care Systems (Harvard Pilgrim Health Care account) voice: 617-509-1212 fax: 617-509-1955 pager: 781-226-2431 From g.mitchell@computer.org Sat, 10 Aug 2002 15:30:09 -0400 Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 15:30:09 -0400 From: Glenn Mitchell g.mitchell@computer.org Subject: QTP error It would be helpful to see the QTP code. Glenn Mitchell 3GM Associates, Inc Portland, ME 04102 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 3:23 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: QTP error HPe3000; PowerHouse 8.19C3 QTP is not used much here. One of our programmers is using QTP to load a dataset from a subfile. The data set is linked to an automatic master. The process fails immediately with the message: Cannot find record with this key/index value. Since the error message displays the Linkitem, I used it to add a record in QUERY, and this was successful. What are we not seeing here. Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Perot Health Care Systems (Harvard Pilgrim Health Care account) voice: 617-509-1212 fax: 617-509-1955 pager: 781-226-2431 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:16:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 09:16:25 -0400 From: Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Subject: QTP error (solved) We solved this problem. It was TurboImage security. Thanks to all those who offered aid and comfort. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Perot Health Care Systems (Harvard Pilgrim Health Care account) voice: 617-509-1212 fax: 617-509-1955 pager: 781-226-2431 From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:01:03 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:01:03 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: Error adding elements to dictionary Just back from holiday. Yes, as everyone's said, it's likely dictionary corruption. Recover with PH tools, or RMS CONVERT. We had some bad experiences right back when we started using PH (610E), and instituted a nightly batch job to generate PDL every night, and keep it for posterity (we store it in a CMS library). We still do, although we've never needed it. It seems to me to be a sensible piece of paranoia to keep source somewhere as a guard against dictionary loss/corruption - with the pow phd tool there is no original source. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Hamilton, Allison [mailto:allison.hamilton@cognos.com] > Sent: 31 July 2002 15:45 > To: daniel.miller@nightfreight.co.uk; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: Error adding elements to dictionary > > > Another option, if the dictionary doesn't recover properly, or if you just > want to start again... Go into QSHOW, SET LANGUAGE PDL, GEN ALL > (if you are > using ASC's etc, make sure you SET SECURITY first, and have > privilege to do > so). This will give you a PDL source for your current > dictionary. Then you > can recompile it and return to POW for further updates. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hamilton, Allison [mailto:Allison.Hamilton@cognos.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:19 AM > To: 'Miller, Daniel'; Powerhouse List 3 (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Error adding elements to dictionary > > > It's possible that the delete didn't delete everything it was supposed to, > so you ended up with something left over that you shouldn't have. > You might > try to use PHDMAINT to Recover your dictionary. It should > produce a report > indicating where the problem is, and it may be able to fix it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Miller, Daniel [mailto:Daniel.Miller@nightfreight.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:01 AM > To: Powerhouse List 3 (E-mail) > Subject: Error adding elements to dictionary > > > Hi, > > Anyone have an idea on the cause of this error? > > Data access error. (O-ELEMENT*01) > %RMS-F-DUP, duplicate key detected (DUP not set) > > Press RETURN to continue. > > When we try to add elements to a dictionary we get the above > error on update > (using "pow"), we can still add elements to other dictionaries ok. > > The elements being added definitely dont exist in the dictionary allthough > the problem started after an element had been deleted and then > was tried to > be reentered. There is definitely no one else accessing the dictionary. > > We use ph 710g1 on alpha vms 7.3 > > tia, > > Daniel Miller > Nightfreight > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. If you > have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you > may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any > attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. 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Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From Daniel.Miller@nightfreight.co.uk Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:49:34 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 13:49:34 +0100 From: Miller, Daniel Daniel.Miller@nightfreight.co.uk Subject: Error adding elements to dictionary Hi, This was an interesting problem that has not occurred before, ive always wondered what problems caused people to upgrade from 710g1 to 710g4 etc, may this was one? The first thing we tried was creating fdls and doing a convert which made no difference, since the message was a duplicate key im guessing that there was not any rms corruption just some records we didnt want. We then tried creating a pdl from the dictionary and loading that in as a new dictionary hoping that would clear it out, this didnt remove the problem either. Interestingly the pdl we generated had some errors in it when we tried to load it the first time. Some single + double quotes in value captions/descriptions/help etc got muddled up. The "gen all" also gave us 6 digit dates back with "noforcecentury" on them and that generated errors too when we tried to load it. If the phdmaint and recover hadnt fixed it then we would have restored the dictionary from the previous nights backup and possibly reloaded that as pdl. Our entire development enviroment is backed up every night, so thats our normal fallback if nothing else works. Daniel Miller Nightfreight -----Original Message----- From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 1:01 PM To: Hamilton, Allison; daniel.miller@nightfreight.co.uk; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: Error adding elements to dictionary Just back from holiday. Yes, as everyone's said, it's likely dictionary corruption. Recover with PH tools, or RMS CONVERT. We had some bad experiences right back when we started using PH (610E), and instituted a nightly batch job to generate PDL every night, and keep it for posterity (we store it in a CMS library). We still do, although we've never needed it. It seems to me to be a sensible piece of paranoia to keep source somewhere as a guard against dictionary loss/corruption - with the pow phd tool there is no original source. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Hamilton, Allison [mailto:allison.hamilton@cognos.com] > Sent: 31 July 2002 15:45 > To: daniel.miller@nightfreight.co.uk; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: Error adding elements to dictionary > > > Another option, if the dictionary doesn't recover properly, or if you just > want to start again... Go into QSHOW, SET LANGUAGE PDL, GEN ALL > (if you are > using ASC's etc, make sure you SET SECURITY first, and have > privilege to do > so). This will give you a PDL source for your current > dictionary. Then you > can recompile it and return to POW for further updates. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hamilton, Allison [mailto:Allison.Hamilton@cognos.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:19 AM > To: 'Miller, Daniel'; Powerhouse List 3 (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Error adding elements to dictionary > > > It's possible that the delete didn't delete everything it was supposed to, > so you ended up with something left over that you shouldn't have. > You might > try to use PHDMAINT to Recover your dictionary. It should > produce a report > indicating where the problem is, and it may be able to fix it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Miller, Daniel [mailto:Daniel.Miller@nightfreight.co.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:01 AM > To: Powerhouse List 3 (E-mail) > Subject: Error adding elements to dictionary > > > Hi, > > Anyone have an idea on the cause of this error? > > Data access error. (O-ELEMENT*01) > %RMS-F-DUP, duplicate key detected (DUP not set) > > Press RETURN to continue. > > When we try to add elements to a dictionary we get the above > error on update > (using "pow"), we can still add elements to other dictionaries ok. > > The elements being added definitely dont exist in the dictionary allthough > the problem started after an element had been deleted and then > was tried to > be reentered. There is definitely no one else accessing the dictionary. > > We use ph 710g1 on alpha vms 7.3 > > tia, > > Daniel Miller > Nightfreight > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential > information. If you > have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you > may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any > attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. 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From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:24:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:24:45 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: Error adding elements to dictionary > This was an interesting problem that has not occurred before, ive always > wondered what problems caused people to upgrade from 710g1 to > 710g4 etc, may > this was one? Not as far as I know. RBF "rolling bug fix" lists are available from support - information on fixes is much more freely available than information on bugs, which Cognos is very coy over. I don't have them machine readable (& I'm not sure they'd be mine to publish if I did). I seem to recall assorted nasties with g1 & g2, but g3 has been ok for us - although g4 fixes some problems, none of them affect us (very large integers was one I think). Perhaps Bob or someone could oblige ? Could RBF lists be published here as & when ? (I know I've asked for bug lists in the past and been told no). Or are they published on the support website ? Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From jerryh@psc-usa.com 13 Aug 2002 11:23:14 -0500 Date: 13 Aug 2002 11:23:14 -0500 From: Jerry Hirschel jerryh@psc-usa.com Subject: Looking for. Hi Looking for a Powerhouse guy by the name of Danny Pugh. Thanks -- Jerry S. Hirschel, CPC Professional Search Centre, Ltd. 847-719-1200 847-719-1275 fax jerryh@psc-usa.com http://www.psc-usa.com Life is change, growth is optional. From leslie.tsukamoto@cae.com Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:49:08 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:49:08 -0500 From: Leslie Tsukamoto leslie.tsukamoto@cae.com Subject: quiz connecting to remote utf8 db (quiz version 7.33.d3) I am running quiz on an hp9000 unix box (version 7.33.d3) currently accessing a version 7.3.4 db installed locally. We want to move the db to a remote sun box. We installed version 8.1.7 of oracle on the sun box and exported/imported our old 7.3.4 db into that 8.1.7 environment. The new db is a UTF8 database. Locally on the hp9000 I can establish sqlplus connectivity to the remote database without any oracle issues whatsoever. When I add the appropriate changes to the dictionary file inorder to reference the location of the new database I receive an oracle error message. (ora-3106 - Two-task communication protocal error). I have visted Oracles website and made note of several postings which reference setting additional environment variables that relate to the NLS language and characterset variables as well as the TWO_TASK environment variable and the ORA_NLS32 variable. I have tried all of these settings and still end up with the error. Does anyone out there know - Can I do what I am trying to do - does the fact that the db is a UTF8 db prevent me from doing this - postings state that I should be able to establish the remote connection to a remote db but they haven't addressed whether or not the characterset difference is an issue here. Please let me know if you anyone has any comments. Leslie J. Tsukamoto Manager of Programming CAE - SimuFlite Training International Email: ltsukamoto@simuflite.com Office Phone: (407)445-0226 Voice Mail: (972)456-8316 Fax: (407)295-9493 From Sherry_Baillie@gov.nt.ca Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:45:54 -0600 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:45:54 -0600 From: Sherry_Baillie@gov.nt.ca Sherry_Baillie@gov.nt.ca Subject: HP Escape seq for simplex printing Does anyone know the escape sequence to force simplex printing for HP laserjets. HP's website has everything but. Thanks. Sherry From IOlson@saputo.com Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:06:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 11:06:54 -0700 From: Olson, Ingemar IOlson@saputo.com Subject: HP Escape seq for simplex printing try escape &l0S 1B 26 6C 30 53 Ingemar Olson -----Original Message----- From: Sherry_Baillie@gov.nt.ca [mailto:Sherry_Baillie@gov.nt.ca] Sent: August 13, 2002 10:46 To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: HP Escape seq for simplex printing Does anyone know the escape sequence to force simplex printing for HP laserjets. HP's website has everything but. Thanks. Sherry = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Sherry_Baillie@gov.nt.ca Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:08:09 -0600 Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 12:08:09 -0600 From: Sherry_Baillie@gov.nt.ca Sherry_Baillie@gov.nt.ca Subject: HP Escape seq for simplex printing Perfect! This is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. -----Original Message----- From: oran /unix [mailto:oran@intertechsystems.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 12:04 PM To: Sherry Baillie /YK /JUS Cc: oran /unix Subject: RE: HP Escape seq for simplex printing Sherry, The attached .txt file is a use file for quiz that contains many esc sequences including simplex. Oran Shapitka www.intertech.ca -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Sherry_Baillie@gov.nt.ca Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:46 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: HP Escape seq for simplex printing Does anyone know the escape sequence to force simplex printing for HP laserjets. HP's website has everything but. Thanks. Sherry = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From rompre@rompre.qc.ca Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:24:11 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:24:11 -0400 From: Etienne Rompr=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?= rompre@rompre.qc.ca Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) Hi, We went from 7.10E to 8.30Z1 (Z1 for powerhouse web issue) and had no major glitches except the locking issues discussed here. We encounter 2 other things The way we enter time in this version is different. We used to type 7.3 for 7h30 but now we must type 730 And we lost the french version of the Powerhouse messages at the bottom of the screen and the é in the menu are replaced by ? And so on. -- Etienne Rompré Superviseur / Supervisor Location Rompré Ltée Québec Canada tél: (418) 683-0400 fax: (418) 683-5157 courriel/email: rompre@rompre.qc.ca internet: http://www.rompre.qc.ca/ > There has been very little discussion on this group about > upgrades to 8.30. > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > How about it folks? > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > what I'm most interested in hearing. > > Ingemar Olson > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > From Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:41:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:41:19 -0400 From: Hamilton, Allison Allison.Hamilton@Cognos.COM Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) The french messages should be fixed in the next release, there were some character set conversion problems that we had in the build process that should be resolved. -----Original Message----- From: Etienne Rompré [mailto:rompre@rompre.qc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:24 AM To: Olson, Ingemar Cc: Powerhouse List Subject: Re: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) Hi, We went from 7.10E to 8.30Z1 (Z1 for powerhouse web issue) and had no major glitches except the locking issues discussed here. We encounter 2 other things The way we enter time in this version is different. We used to type 7.3 for 7h30 but now we must type 730 And we lost the french version of the Powerhouse messages at the bottom of the screen and the é in the menu are replaced by ? And so on. -- Etienne Rompré Superviseur / Supervisor Location Rompré Ltée Québec Canada tél: (418) 683-0400 fax: (418) 683-5157 courriel/email: rompre@rompre.qc.ca internet: http://www.rompre.qc.ca/ > There has been very little discussion on this group about > upgrades to 8.30. > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > How about it folks? > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > what I'm most interested in hearing. > > Ingemar Olson > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From kevin.erne@lineone.net Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:19:46 +0100 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:19:46 +0100 From: Kevin Erne kevin.erne@lineone.net Subject: QTP and SQL stored procedures Running QTP V8.13D on AIX. The QTP has no commit statements and uses serializable CONSISTENCY transaction for every table accessed. Calling Oracle (V8.1.7) stored procedure in very last request. If this fails e.g. constraint violation - then previous updates are still committed. This QTP is usually run in a batched ksh script and tests $? after QTP is invoked. This seems to think that QTP has worked fine even after stored proceduree has failed. Is this a bug/feature? From Jon.Kvisli@lindorffapplications.com Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:26:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:26:33 +0200 From: Jon.Kvisli@lindorffapplications.com Jon.Kvisli@lindorffapplications.com Subject: QTP and SQL stored procedures Yes, We have experienced the same behavior. QTP only seems to check the results of updating database record buffers, and will not detect an error caused by call to an Oracle stored procedure. This applies independant of what COMMIT frequency you have chosen. This is probably the only way QTP can respond, since there will be no way of detecting that the stored proc failed unless you choose to return some error-indicator from the procedure yourself. We have solved this by using av IN/OUT parameter that returning status codes / error codes from the stored proc, and forcing qtp to terminate if an error is detected. Se example: COMMIT AT REQUEST REQUEST DEMO_CALL_SP ON CALC ERROR TERMINATE RUN temporary T_SP_STATUS_CODE integer signed size 2 temporary T_SP_ERROR integer UNSIGNED size 1 ; Will be set negative by stored proc if error occurs in procedure item T_SP_STATUS_CODE = 0 sql call & ( & , & T_SP_STATUS_CODE in out & ) ; Detects error status returned from stored proc, and causes qtp to terminate if error occured item T_SP_ERROR = -1 if T_SP_STATUS_CODE < 0 else 0 NOTE that T_SP_ERROR is declared as UNSIGNED and will cause a conversion error when assigened a negative value. Using ON CALC ERROR TERMINATE RUN, this will terminate QTP. Combined with COMMIT AT REQUEST this will ROLLBACK the whole request. Using COMMIT AT 1 TRANSACTION, only the transaction that failed will be rolled back. I addition to this, we also generate a readable error-message that is written to a portable nodict subfile BEFORE terminating QTP. Since changes to subfiles are NOT rolled back, this will give us a readable log of what error that occured. Jon Kvisli ---------------------------------------------- Senior systemkonsulent Lindorff Applications as Hellandtunet forsknings- og nćringssenter Postboks 4, 3833 Bř i Telemark tlf: 35 06 15 71 fax: 35 06 15 01 e-post: jon.kvisli@lindorffapplications.com www.lindorffapplications.com ---------------------------------------------- "Kevin Erne" cc: Sent by: Subject: QTP and SQL stored procedures powerh-l-admin@cub e.swau.edu 14.08.2002 21:19 Please respond to mail Running QTP V8.13D on AIX. The QTP has no commit statements and uses serializable CONSISTENCY transaction for every table accessed. Calling Oracle (V8.1.7) stored procedure in very last request. If this fails e.g. constraint violation - then previous updates are still committed. This QTP is usually run in a batched ksh script and tests $? after QTP is invoked. This seems to think that QTP has worked fine even after stored proceduree has failed. Is this a bug/feature? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From murugeswari@chennai.tcs.co.in Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:32:02 +0530 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:32:02 +0530 From: Murugeswari Issakkimuthu murugeswari@chennai.tcs.co.in Subject: a problem in qks This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-f2609389-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C24457.C198DF20" ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C24457.C198DF20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I face the following problem:=20 I have a character field in my file which is of length 10000. I would = like to read a value into that field thro' a qks program. It accepts = only 1000 (exactly 1000) characters. Do i have to change any settings to = solve this?=20 thanks, Murugeswari ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C24457.C198DF20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
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thanks,
Murugeswari
 
------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C24457.C198DF20-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-f2609389-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636-- From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:44:43 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:44:43 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: a problem in qks >I have a character field in my file which is of length 10000. I would like to read a >value into that field thro' a qks program. It accepts only 1000 (exactly 1000) >characters. Do i have to change any settings to solve this? Try some of the QKGO execution time parameters, starting with expression size. I've not encountered a limit of exactly 1000, and you don't say what platform you're on. The VMS limit is 2k, most other platforms I believe are 32k - these limits are absolute. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:50:44 +0530 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:50:44 +0530 From: Ganapathi kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Subject: How to edit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-f26094ea-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C2446B.221339F0" ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C2446B.221339F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How to edit the data? I would like to get the data from a file to a field and want to = edit/modify the data (if any grametical errors/spelling mistakes) and = store it in the same file. While displaying by taking the data from = file there is no problem but how to point the cursor at the end of the = data ? If anybody give answer, I will be thankful to them Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C2446B.221339F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
How to edit the data?
 
I would like to get the data from a = file to a field=20 and want to edit/modify the data (if any grametical errors/spelling = mistakes)=20 and store it in the same file.  While displaying by taking the data = from=20 file there is no problem but how to point the cursor at the end of the = data=20 ?
 
If anybody give answer, I will be = thankful to=20 them
 
Thanks & Regards
Ganapathi
------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C2446B.221339F0-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-f26094ea-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636-- From murugeswari@chennai.tcs.co.in Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:14:16 +0530 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:14:16 +0530 From: Murugeswari Issakkimuthu murugeswari@chennai.tcs.co.in Subject: QKS - EDIT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-f2609526-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2446E.6C04F230" ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2446E.6C04F230 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, I have a character type field in one of my files with some data in it. = How do i make slight changes (add or delete a single word) to the = contents of that field without losing the existing data? This has to be = done thro' a qks prg. thanks=20 Murugeswari ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2446E.6C04F230 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello,
I have a character type field in one of = my files=20 with some data in it. How do i make slight changes (add or delete a = single word)=20 to the contents of that field without losing the existing data? This has = to be=20 done thro' a qks prg.
 
thanks
Murugeswari
------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2446E.6C04F230-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-f2609526-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636-- From kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:36:24 +0530 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:36:24 +0530 From: Ganapathi kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Subject: QKGO - QKS This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-f260955b-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0158_01C24471.834781D0" ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C24471.834781D0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hai, After setting QKGO parameters(i.e execution time parameters, terminal = buffer etc), how to establish a link between that QKGO file and my QKS = file. Can anyone give the answer in step wise please? Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C24471.834781D0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hai,
 
After setting QKGO parameters(i.e execution = time parameters,=20 terminal buffer etc), how to establish a link between that = QKGO=20 file and my QKS file.
Can anyone give the answer in step wise = please?
 
Thanks &=20 Regards
Ganapathi
------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C24471.834781D0-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-f260955b-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636-- From Daniel.Miller@nightfreight.co.uk Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:06:59 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:06:59 +0100 From: Miller, Daniel Daniel.Miller@nightfreight.co.uk Subject: QKS - EDIT / How to edit This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24443.7E504C6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, You can get the cursor to appear at the end of existing data when the user tries to change a field by doing "control/b" in the field. However we did not want our users to have to do any special commands and you can achieve the same result by doing the following in a modify procedure or by a numbered designer procedure for the field in question e.g.: Procedure designer 01 ;field id number Begin Block transfer Begin Accept field-name End End Daniel Miller Nightfreight -----Original Message----- From: Murugeswari Issakkimuthu [mailto:murugeswari@chennai.tcs.co.in] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:44 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: QKS - EDIT Hello, I have a character type field in one of my files with some data in it. How do i make slight changes (add or delete a single word) to the contents of that field without losing the existing data? This has to be done thro' a qks prg. thanks Murugeswari ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24443.7E504C6B Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
 
You can get the cursor to appear at the end of existing data when the user tries to change a field by doing "control/b" in the field. 
 
However we did not want our users to have to do any special commands and you can achieve the same result by doing the following in a modify procedure or by a numbered designer procedure for the field in question e.g.:
 
Procedure designer 01 ;field id number
Begin
    Block transfer
    Begin
        Accept field-name
    End
End
 
Daniel Miller
Nightfreight
-----Original Message-----
From: Murugeswari Issakkimuthu [mailto:murugeswari@chennai.tcs.co.in]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:44 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: QKS - EDIT

Hello,
I have a character type field in one of my files with some data in it. How do i make slight changes (add or delete a single word) to the contents of that field without losing the existing data? This has to be done thro' a qks prg.
 
thanks
Murugeswari
------_=_NextPart_001_01C24443.7E504C6B-- From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:14:21 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:14:21 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: QKS - EDIT >I have a character type field in one of my files with some data in it. How do i make slight changes (add or delete a single word) to the contents of that field without losing the existing data? This has to be done thro' a qks prg. Tell users to use recall (control/B on VMS) to recall the original text before editing. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:21:22 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:21:22 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: QKGO - QKS You set the first screen in QKGO to be the quick screen you want, and then invoke Quick with the QKGO file, rather than the quick screen. -----Original Message----- From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in] Sent: 15 August 2002 11:16 To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: QKGO - QKS Hai, After setting QKGO parameters(i.e execution time parameters, terminal buffer etc), how to establish a link between that QKGO file and my QKS file. Can anyone give the answer in step wise please? Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From merol.newman@ramesys.com Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:11:05 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:11:05 +0100 From: Merol Newman merol.newman@ramesys.com Subject: QKGO - QKS This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C24454.D4DEAD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ganapathi There is no link between the .qks file (source code) and QKGO. QKGO is called when you run the compiled Quick program, the .qkc. You would normally run a Powerhouse system with a qkgo file set up to cover the interactive part of the screen system, and the link would be set up as a logical in the login.com (VMS) or an environment variable in the .profile (Unix). This would then apply by default when you run a single screen. To run a menu system, you would call the qkgo file rather than the menu screen, and the qkgo would be set up to call the menu as the first screen, e.g. quick auto= You can set up other qkgo files with different characteristics to cater for screens run in batch, for example, which might need to handle larger volumes of data, and the batch job would run this special qkgo with "quick auto=", with the first screen of the qkgo set to the batch screen name. Chris and Daniel have already posted answers on editing, but in response to someone else's query. You ask how to get to the end of the text - this is exactly what control-B does. regards Merol merol.newman@ramesys.com Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788 823601 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Ganapathi Sent: 15 August 2002 11:06 To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: QKGO - QKS Hai, After setting QKGO parameters(i.e execution time parameters, terminal buffer etc), how to establish a link between that QKGO file and my QKS file. Can anyone give the answer in step wise please? Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C24454.D4DEAD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Ganapathi
 
There is no link between the .qks file = (source code)=20 and QKGO. QKGO is called when you run the compiled Quick program, the=20 .qkc.
 
You would normally run a Powerhouse system = with a qkgo=20 file set up to cover the interactive part of the screen system, and the=20 link would be set up as a logical in the login.com (VMS) or an = environment=20 variable in the .profile (Unix). This would then apply by default when = you run a=20 single screen.
 
To run a menu system, you would call the qkgo = file=20 rather than the menu screen, and the qkgo would be set up to call the = menu as=20 the first screen, e.g.
 
quick=20 auto=3D<qkgofilename> 
 
You can set up other qkgo files with different characteristics = to cater=20 for screens run in batch, for example, which might need to handle larger = volumes=20 of data, and the batch job would run this special qkgo with "quick=20 auto=3D", with the first screen of the qkgo set to the = batch screen=20 name.
 
Chris and Daniel have already posted answers on editing, but in = response=20 to someone else's query. You ask how to get to the end of the text - = this is=20 exactly what control-B does.
 
regards
Merol
 

merol.newman@ramesys.com
Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, = Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL
phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788=20 823601
 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: = powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu=20 [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of=20 Ganapathi
Sent: 15 August 2002 11:06
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: QKGO - = QKS

Hai,
 
After setting QKGO parameters(i.e execution = time parameters,=20 terminal buffer etc), how to establish a link between that = QKGO=20 file and my QKS file.
Can anyone give the answer in step wise = please?
 
Thanks &=20 Regards
Ganapathi
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C24454.D4DEAD60-- From kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:21:37 +0530 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:21:37 +0530 From: Ganapathi kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Subject: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #432 - 13 msgs ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #432 - 13 msgs Send powerh-l mailing list submissions to powerh-l@lists.swau.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu You can reach the person managing the list at powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of powerh-l digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re:Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) (Etienne Rompr=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?=) 2. RE:Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) (Hamilton, Allison) 3. QTP and SQL stored procedures (Kevin Erne) 4. Re:QTP and SQL stored procedures (jon.kvisli@lindorffapplications.com) 5. a problem in qks (Murugeswari Issakkimuthu) 6. RE:a problem in qks (Chris Sharman) 7. How to edit (Ganapathi) 8. QKS - EDIT (Murugeswari Issakkimuthu) 9. QKGO - QKS (Ganapathi) 10. RE:QKS - EDIT / How to edit (Miller, Daniel) 11. RE:QKS - EDIT (Chris Sharman) 12. RE:QKGO - QKS (Chris Sharman) 13. RE:QKGO - QKS (Merol Newman) --__--__-- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:24:11 -0400 Subject: Re: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) From: Etienne Rompr=?ISO-8859-1?B?6Q==?= To: "Olson, Ingemar" Cc: Powerhouse List Hi, We went from 7.10E to 8.30Z1 (Z1 for powerhouse web issue) and had no major glitches except the locking issues discussed here. We encounter 2 other things The way we enter time in this version is different. We used to type 7.3 for 7h30 but now we must type 730 And we lost the french version of the Powerhouse messages at the bottom of the screen and the é in the menu are replaced by ? And so on. -- Etienne Rompré Superviseur / Supervisor Location Rompré Ltée Québec Canada tél: (418) 683-0400 fax: (418) 683-5157 courriel/email: rompre@rompre.qc.ca internet: http://www.rompre.qc.ca/ > There has been very little discussion on this group about > upgrades to 8.30. > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > How about it folks? > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > what I'm most interested in hearing. > > Ingemar Olson > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Hamilton, Allison" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=27Etienne_Rompr=E9=27?= , "Olson, Ingemar" Cc: Powerhouse List Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:41:19 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" The french messages should be fixed in the next release, there were some character set conversion problems that we had in the build process that should be resolved. -----Original Message----- From: Etienne Rompré [mailto:rompre@rompre.qc.ca] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:24 AM To: Olson, Ingemar Cc: Powerhouse List Subject: Re: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey) Hi, We went from 7.10E to 8.30Z1 (Z1 for powerhouse web issue) and had no major glitches except the locking issues discussed here. We encounter 2 other things The way we enter time in this version is different. We used to type 7.3 for 7h30 but now we must type 730 And we lost the french version of the Powerhouse messages at the bottom of the screen and the é in the menu are replaced by ? And so on. -- Etienne Rompré Superviseur / Supervisor Location Rompré Ltée Québec Canada tél: (418) 683-0400 fax: (418) 683-5157 courriel/email: rompre@rompre.qc.ca internet: http://www.rompre.qc.ca/ > There has been very little discussion on this group about > upgrades to 8.30. > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > How about it folks? > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > what I'm most interested in hearing. > > Ingemar Olson > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. --__--__-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 20:19:46 +0100 From: "Kevin Erne" Subject: QTP and SQL stored procedures Reply-To: mail@kevinerne.co.uk To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Running QTP V8.13D on AIX. The QTP has no commit statements and uses serializable CONSISTENCY transaction for every table accessed. Calling Oracle (V8.1.7) stored procedure in very last request. If this fails e.g. constraint violation - then previous updates are still committed. This QTP is usually run in a batched ksh script and tests $? after QTP is invoked. This seems to think that QTP has worked fine even after stored proceduree has failed. Is this a bug/feature? --__--__-- Message: 4 From: Jon.Kvisli@lindorffapplications.com Subject: Re: QTP and SQL stored procedures To: mail@kevinerne.co.uk Cc: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:26:33 +0200 Yes, We have experienced the same behavior. QTP only seems to check the results of updating database record buffers, and will not detect an error caused by call to an Oracle stored procedure. This applies independant of what COMMIT frequency you have chosen. This is probably the only way QTP can respond, since there will be no way of detecting that the stored proc failed unless you choose to return some error-indicator from the procedure yourself. We have solved this by using av IN/OUT parameter that returning status codes / error codes from the stored proc, and forcing qtp to terminate if an error is detected. Se example: COMMIT AT REQUEST REQUEST DEMO_CALL_SP ON CALC ERROR TERMINATE RUN temporary T_SP_STATUS_CODE integer signed size 2 temporary T_SP_ERROR integer UNSIGNED size 1 ; Will be set negative by stored proc if error occurs in procedure item T_SP_STATUS_CODE = 0 sql call & ( & , & T_SP_STATUS_CODE in out & ) ; Detects error status returned from stored proc, and causes qtp to terminate if error occured item T_SP_ERROR = -1 if T_SP_STATUS_CODE < 0 else 0 NOTE that T_SP_ERROR is declared as UNSIGNED and will cause a conversion error when assigened a negative value. Using ON CALC ERROR TERMINATE RUN, this will terminate QTP. Combined with COMMIT AT REQUEST this will ROLLBACK the whole request. Using COMMIT AT 1 TRANSACTION, only the transaction that failed will be rolled back. I addition to this, we also generate a readable error-message that is written to a portable nodict subfile BEFORE terminating QTP. Since changes to subfiles are NOT rolled back, this will give us a readable log of what error that occured. Jon Kvisli ---------------------------------------------- Senior systemkonsulent Lindorff Applications as Hellandtunet forsknings- og nćringssenter Postboks 4, 3833 Bř i Telemark tlf: 35 06 15 71 fax: 35 06 15 01 e-post: jon.kvisli@lindorffapplications.com www.lindorffapplications.com ---------------------------------------------- "Kevin Erne" cc: Sent by: Subject: QTP and SQL stored procedures powerh-l-admin@cub e.swau.edu 14.08.2002 21:19 Please respond to mail Running QTP V8.13D on AIX. The QTP has no commit statements and uses serializable CONSISTENCY transaction for every table accessed. Calling Oracle (V8.1.7) stored procedure in very last request. If this fails e.g. constraint violation - then previous updates are still committed. This QTP is usually run in a batched ksh script and tests $? after QTP is invoked. This seems to think that QTP has worked fine even after stored proceduree has failed. Is this a bug/feature? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. --__--__-- Message: 5 From: "Murugeswari Issakkimuthu" To: Subject: a problem in qks Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:32:02 +0530 boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-f2609389-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-f2609389-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C24457.C198DF20" ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C24457.C198DF20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, I face the following problem:=20 I have a character field in my file which is of length 10000. I would = like to read a value into that field thro' a qks program. It accepts = only 1000 (exactly 1000) characters. Do i have to change any settings to = solve this?=20 thanks, Murugeswari ------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C24457.C198DF20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
I face the following = problem: 
I have a character field in my file = which is of=20 length 10000. I would like to read a value into that field thro' a qks = program.=20 It accepts only 1000 (exactly 1000) characters. Do i have to change any = settings=20 to solve this?
 
thanks,
Murugeswari
 
------=_NextPart_000_00B8_01C24457.C198DF20-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-f2609389-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636-- --__--__-- Message: 6 From: "Chris Sharman" To: "Murugeswari Issakkimuthu" , Subject: RE: a problem in qks Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 08:44:43 +0100 >I have a character field in my file which is of length 10000. I would like to read a >value into that field thro' a qks program. It accepts only 1000 (exactly 1000) >characters. Do i have to change any settings to solve this? Try some of the QKGO execution time parameters, starting with expression size. I've not encountered a limit of exactly 1000, and you don't say what platform you're on. The VMS limit is 2k, most other platforms I believe are 32k - these limits are absolute. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. --__--__-- Message: 7 From: "Ganapathi" To: Subject: How to edit Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:50:44 +0530 boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-f26094ea-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-f26094ea-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C2446B.221339F0" ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C2446B.221339F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How to edit the data? I would like to get the data from a file to a field and want to = edit/modify the data (if any grametical errors/spelling mistakes) and = store it in the same file. While displaying by taking the data from = file there is no problem but how to point the cursor at the end of the = data ? If anybody give answer, I will be thankful to them Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C2446B.221339F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
How to edit the data?
 
I would like to get the data from a = file to a field=20 and want to edit/modify the data (if any grametical errors/spelling = mistakes)=20 and store it in the same file.  While displaying by taking the data = from=20 file there is no problem but how to point the cursor at the end of the = data=20 ?
 
If anybody give answer, I will be = thankful to=20 them
 
Thanks & Regards
Ganapathi
------=_NextPart_000_00C4_01C2446B.221339F0-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-f26094ea-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636-- --__--__-- Message: 8 From: "Murugeswari Issakkimuthu" To: Subject: QKS - EDIT Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:14:16 +0530 boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-f2609526-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-f2609526-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2446E.6C04F230" ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2446E.6C04F230 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hello, I have a character type field in one of my files with some data in it. = How do i make slight changes (add or delete a single word) to the = contents of that field without losing the existing data? This has to be = done thro' a qks prg. thanks=20 Murugeswari ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2446E.6C04F230 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello,
I have a character type field in one of = my files=20 with some data in it. How do i make slight changes (add or delete a = single word)=20 to the contents of that field without losing the existing data? This has = to be=20 done thro' a qks prg.
 
thanks
Murugeswari
------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01C2446E.6C04F230-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-f2609526-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636-- --__--__-- Message: 9 From: "Ganapathi" To: Subject: QKGO - QKS Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 15:36:24 +0530 boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-f260955b-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-f260955b-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0158_01C24471.834781D0" ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C24471.834781D0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hai, After setting QKGO parameters(i.e execution time parameters, terminal = buffer etc), how to establish a link between that QKGO file and my QKS = file. Can anyone give the answer in step wise please? Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C24471.834781D0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hai,
 
After setting QKGO parameters(i.e execution = time parameters,=20 terminal buffer etc), how to establish a link between that = QKGO=20 file and my QKS file.
Can anyone give the answer in step wise = please?
 
Thanks &=20 Regards
Ganapathi
------=_NextPart_000_0158_01C24471.834781D0-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-f260955b-af55-11d6-accc-005004267636-- --__--__-- Message: 10 From: "Miller, Daniel" To: "'Murugeswari Issakkimuthu'" , "'Ganapathi'" Cc: "Powerhouse List 3 (E-mail)" Subject: RE: QKS - EDIT / How to edit Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:06:59 +0100 boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C24443.7E504C6B" This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24443.7E504C6B Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, You can get the cursor to appear at the end of existing data when the user tries to change a field by doing "control/b" in the field. However we did not want our users to have to do any special commands and you can achieve the same result by doing the following in a modify procedure or by a numbered designer procedure for the field in question e.g.: Procedure designer 01 ;field id number Begin Block transfer Begin Accept field-name End End Daniel Miller Nightfreight -----Original Message----- From: Murugeswari Issakkimuthu [mailto:murugeswari@chennai.tcs.co.in] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:44 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: QKS - EDIT Hello, I have a character type field in one of my files with some data in it. How do i make slight changes (add or delete a single word) to the contents of that field without losing the existing data? This has to be done thro' a qks prg. thanks Murugeswari ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24443.7E504C6B Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi,
 
You can get the cursor to appear at the end of existing data when the user tries to change a field by doing "control/b" in the field. 
 
However we did not want our users to have to do any special commands and you can achieve the same result by doing the following in a modify procedure or by a numbered designer procedure for the field in question e.g.:
 
Procedure designer 01 ;field id number
Begin
    Block transfer
    Begin
        Accept field-name
    End
End
 
Daniel Miller
Nightfreight
-----Original Message-----
From: Murugeswari Issakkimuthu [mailto:murugeswari@chennai.tcs.co.in]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:44 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: QKS - EDIT

Hello,
I have a character type field in one of my files with some data in it. How do i make slight changes (add or delete a single word) to the contents of that field without losing the existing data? This has to be done thro' a qks prg.
 
thanks
Murugeswari
------_=_NextPart_001_01C24443.7E504C6B-- --__--__-- Message: 11 From: "Chris Sharman" To: "Murugeswari Issakkimuthu" , Subject: RE: QKS - EDIT Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:14:21 +0100 >I have a character type field in one of my files with some data in it. How do i make slight changes (add or delete a single word) to the contents of that field without losing the existing data? This has to be done thro' a qks prg. Tell users to use recall (control/B on VMS) to recall the original text before editing. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. --__--__-- Message: 12 From: "Chris Sharman" To: "Ganapathi" , Subject: RE: QKGO - QKS Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:21:22 +0100 You set the first screen in QKGO to be the quick screen you want, and then invoke Quick with the QKGO file, rather than the quick screen. -----Original Message----- From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in] Sent: 15 August 2002 11:16 To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: QKGO - QKS Hai, After setting QKGO parameters(i.e execution time parameters, terminal buffer etc), how to establish a link between that QKGO file and my QKS file. Can anyone give the answer in step wise please? Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. --__--__-- Message: 13 Reply-To: From: "Merol Newman" To: "Ganapathi" Cc: Subject: RE: QKGO - QKS Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:11:05 +0100 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C24454.D4DEAD60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C24454.D4DEAD60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ganapathi There is no link between the .qks file (source code) and QKGO. QKGO is called when you run the compiled Quick program, the .qkc. You would normally run a Powerhouse system with a qkgo file set up to cover the interactive part of the screen system, and the link would be set up as a logical in the login.com (VMS) or an environment variable in the .profile (Unix). This would then apply by default when you run a single screen. To run a menu system, you would call the qkgo file rather than the menu screen, and the qkgo would be set up to call the menu as the first screen, e.g. quick auto= You can set up other qkgo files with different characteristics to cater for screens run in batch, for example, which might need to handle larger volumes of data, and the batch job would run this special qkgo with "quick auto=", with the first screen of the qkgo set to the batch screen name. Chris and Daniel have already posted answers on editing, but in response to someone else's query. You ask how to get to the end of the text - this is exactly what control-B does. regards Merol merol.newman@ramesys.com Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788 823601 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Ganapathi Sent: 15 August 2002 11:06 To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: QKGO - QKS Hai, After setting QKGO parameters(i.e execution time parameters, terminal buffer etc), how to establish a link between that QKGO file and my QKS file. Can anyone give the answer in step wise please? Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C24454.D4DEAD60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Ganapathi
 
There is no link between the .qks file = (source code)=20 and QKGO. QKGO is called when you run the compiled Quick program, the=20 .qkc.
 
You would normally run a Powerhouse system = with a qkgo=20 file set up to cover the interactive part of the screen system, and the=20 link would be set up as a logical in the login.com (VMS) or an = environment=20 variable in the .profile (Unix). This would then apply by default when = you run a=20 single screen.
 
To run a menu system, you would call the qkgo = file=20 rather than the menu screen, and the qkgo would be set up to call the = menu as=20 the first screen, e.g.
 
quick=20 auto=3D<qkgofilename> 
 
You can set up other qkgo files with different characteristics = to cater=20 for screens run in batch, for example, which might need to handle larger = volumes=20 of data, and the batch job would run this special qkgo with "quick=20 auto=3D", with the first screen of the qkgo set to the = batch screen=20 name.
 
Chris and Daniel have already posted answers on editing, but in = response=20 to someone else's query. You ask how to get to the end of the text - = this is=20 exactly what control-B does.
 
regards
Merol
 

merol.newman@ramesys.com
Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, = Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL
phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788=20 823601
 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: = powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu=20 [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of=20 Ganapathi
Sent: 15 August 2002 11:06
To:=20 powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: QKGO - = QKS

Hai,
 
After setting QKGO parameters(i.e execution = time parameters,=20 terminal buffer etc), how to establish a link between that = QKGO=20 file and my QKS file.
Can anyone give the answer in step wise = please?
 
Thanks &=20 Regards
Ganapathi
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C24454.D4DEAD60-- --__--__-- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe " in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. End of powerh-l Digest From aarnone@grey.com Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:27:35 -0400 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 11:27:35 -0400 From: Arnone, Anthony aarnone@grey.com Subject: Count Question This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24470.47F045F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In Quiz I am creating a file with employee information in it. I also need to number the records in the file and I am not sure exactly how to do this i.e. employee count 001 1 023 2 045 3 102 4 R/S Anthony Arnone Programmer/Analyst Grey Global Group (212) 546.1603 aarnone@grey.com ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24470.47F045F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In Quiz I am creating a file with employee = information in it. I=20 also need to number the records in the file and I am not sure exactly = how to do=20 this i.e.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01C24470.47F045F0-- From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:34:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:34:17 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: Count Question def recnum int*4 = 1 rep sum employee recnum subt noreset head "RecNum" -----Original Message----- From: Arnone, Anthony [mailto:aarnone@grey.com] Sent: 15 August 2002 16:25 To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Count Question In Quiz I am creating a file with employee information in it. I also need to number the records in the file and I am not sure exactly how to do this i.e. employee count 001 1 023 2 045 3 102 4 R/S Anthony Arnone Programmer/Analyst Grey Global Group (212) 546.1603 aarnone@grey.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From BEdis@usbnc.org Thu, 15 Aug 2002 19:57:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 19:57:52 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: How to edit This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C244BF.F2D087B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Welcome to the new listers from India. For future reference would you mind listing your environment in your email please? Knowing the OS, DB and PowerHouse versions helps us respond to you questions better as PowerHouse works on soooo many different platforms. Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:21 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: How to edit How to edit the data? I would like to get the data from a file to a field and want to edit/modify the data (if any grametical errors/spelling mistakes) and store it in the same file. While displaying by taking the data from file there is no problem but how to point the cursor at the end of the data ? If anybody give answer, I will be thankful to them Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------_=_NextPart_001_01C244BF.F2D087B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Welcome to the new listers from India.  For future reference would you mind listing your environment in your email please?  Knowing the OS, DB and PowerHouse versions helps us respond to you questions better as PowerHouse works on soooo many different platforms.
 
Regards,
Blue
-----Original Message-----
From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:21 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: How to edit

How to edit the data?
 
I would like to get the data from a file to a field and want to edit/modify the data (if any grametical errors/spelling mistakes) and store it in the same file.  While displaying by taking the data from file there is no problem but how to point the cursor at the end of the data ?
 
If anybody give answer, I will be thankful to them
 
Thanks & Regards
Ganapathi
------_=_NextPart_001_01C244BF.F2D087B0-- From BEdis@usbnc.org Thu, 15 Aug 2002 19:57:52 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 19:57:52 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: How to edit This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C244BF.F2D087B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Welcome to the new listers from India. For future reference would you mind listing your environment in your email please? Knowing the OS, DB and PowerHouse versions helps us respond to you questions better as PowerHouse works on soooo many different platforms. Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:21 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: How to edit How to edit the data? I would like to get the data from a file to a field and want to edit/modify the data (if any grametical errors/spelling mistakes) and store it in the same file. While displaying by taking the data from file there is no problem but how to point the cursor at the end of the data ? If anybody give answer, I will be thankful to them Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------_=_NextPart_001_01C244BF.F2D087B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Welcome to the new listers from India.  For future reference would you mind listing your environment in your email please?  Knowing the OS, DB and PowerHouse versions helps us respond to you questions better as PowerHouse works on soooo many different platforms.
 
Regards,
Blue
-----Original Message-----
From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in]
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:21 AM
To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
Subject: How to edit

How to edit the data?
 
I would like to get the data from a file to a field and want to edit/modify the data (if any grametical errors/spelling mistakes) and store it in the same file.  While displaying by taking the data from file there is no problem but how to point the cursor at the end of the data ?
 
If anybody give answer, I will be thankful to them
 
Thanks & Regards
Ganapathi
------_=_NextPart_001_01C244BF.F2D087B0-- From Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:00:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:00:50 -0400 From: Johnson, Tracy Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com Subject: How to edit And turn that HTML format off too. I see the original message on a dark grey background. It's annoying. BT NNNN Tracy Johnson MSI Schaevitz Sensors -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:58 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: How to edit Welcome to the new listers from India. For future reference would you mind listing your environment in your email please? Knowing the OS, DB and PowerHouse versions helps us respond to you questions better as PowerHouse works on soooo many different platforms. Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:21 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: How to edit How to edit the data? I would like to get the data from a file to a field and want to edit/modify the data (if any grametical errors/spelling mistakes) and store it in the same file. While displaying by taking the data from file there is no problem but how to point the cursor at the end of the data ? If anybody give answer, I will be thankful to them Thanks & Regards Ganapathi From pablo@gorge.net Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:14:17 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:14:17 -0700 From: Paul (Pablo) Grim pablo@gorge.net Subject: How to edit > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --MS_Mac_OE_3112359257_6130981_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Is this better? I thought the grey was quite nice. Please ignore this impolite attitude. You'll find a mostly helpful and supportive bunch here. Welcome!!! p > From: "Johnson, Tracy" > Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:00:50 -0400 > To: "PowerHouse List (E-mail)" > Subject: RE: How to edit > > And turn that HTML format off too. > > I see the original message on a dark grey background. > It's annoying. > > BT > NNNN > Tracy Johnson > MSI Schaevitz Sensors > -----Original Message----- > From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:58 PM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: How to edit > > > Welcome to the new listers from India. For future reference would you mind > listing your environment in your email please? Knowing the OS, DB and > PowerHouse versions helps us respond to you questions better as PowerHouse > works on soooo many different platforms. > > Regards, > Blue > -----Original Message----- > From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in] > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:21 AM > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: How to edit > > > How to edit the data? > > I would like to get the data from a file to a field and want to edit/modify > the data (if any grametical errors/spelling mistakes) and store it in the same > file. While displaying by taking the data from file there is no problem but > how to point the cursor at the end of the data ? > > If anybody give answer, I will be thankful to them > > Thanks & Regards > Ganapathi > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. --MS_Mac_OE_3112359257_6130981_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Re: How to edit Is this better?  I thought the grey was quite ni= ce.

Please ignore this impolite attitude.   You'll find a mostly help= ful and supportive bunch here.

Welcome!!!

p

> From: "Johnson, Tracy" <Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com>
> Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:00:50 -0400
> To: "PowerHouse List (E-mail)" <powerh-l@lists.swau.edu&g= t;
> Subject: RE: How to edit
>
> And turn that HTML format off too.
>
> I see the original message on a dark grey background.  
> It's annoying.
>
> BT
> NNNN
> Tracy Johnson
> MSI Schaevitz Sensors
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org]
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:58 PM
> To: PowerHouse List (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: How to edit
>
>
> Welcome to the new listers from India.  For future reference woul= d you mind
> listing your environment in your email please?  Knowing the OS, D= B and
> PowerHouse versions helps us respond to you questions better as PowerH= ouse
> works on soooo many different platforms.
>
> Regards,
> Blue
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in]
> Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:21 AM
> To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu
> Subject: How to edit
>
>
> How to edit the data?
>
> I would like to get the data from a file to a field and want to edit/m= odify
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--MS_Mac_OE_3112359257_6130981_MIME_Part-- From darren.reely@latticesemi.com Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:25:45 -0700 Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:25:45 -0700 From: Darren Reely darren.reely@latticesemi.com Subject: How to edit I'm with Tracy on this one. I think it polite not create screwy contrasts such as Ganapathi and Paul did. Ganapathi can be excused as he is new. Paul just seems to have been wanting to jerk us around. I also think it is nice not to use HTML e-mail when there is no need for it, as for most of the content on this mailing list. Ganapathi, welcome to the list. You'll find it useful. Darren. Paul (Pablo) Grim wrote: > Is this better? I thought the grey was quite nice. > > Please ignore this impolite attitude. You'll find a mostly helpful > and supportive bunch here. > > Welcome!!! > > p > > > From: "Johnson, Tracy" > > Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 11:00:50 -0400 > > To: "PowerHouse List (E-mail)" > > Subject: RE: How to edit > > > > And turn that HTML format off too. > > > > I see the original message on a dark grey background. > > It's annoying. > > > > BT > > NNNN > > Tracy Johnson > > MSI Schaevitz Sensors > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 8:58 PM > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: RE: How to edit > > > > > > Welcome to the new listers from India. For future reference would > you mind > > listing your environment in your email please? Knowing the OS, DB and > > PowerHouse versions helps us respond to you questions better as > PowerHouse > > works on soooo many different platforms. > > > > Regards, > > Blue > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in] > > Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:21 AM > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subject: How to edit > > > > > > How to edit the data? > > > > I would like to get the data from a file to a field and want to > edit/modify > > the data (if any grametical errors/spelling mistakes) and store it > in the same > > file. While displaying by taking the data from file there is no > problem but > > how to point the cursor at the end of the data ? > > > > If anybody give answer, I will be thankful to them > > > > Thanks & Regards > > Ganapathi > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From kbarrett@denkor.com Sat, 17 Aug 2002 04:21:30 -0700 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 04:21:30 -0700 From: kbarrett@denkor.com kbarrett@denkor.com Subject: Autoreply: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #435 - 4 msgs I am out of the office (on vacation) until Tuesday, September 3. If your need cannot wait until then, please forward your request to helpdesk@denkor.com and they will assign someone to assist you. I will review all emails received during my absence after 9/3. Thanks! Karen Barrett Senior Program Analyst Denkor Dental Management Corp. (503) 644-6444 x4363 From aarnone@grey.com Sat, 17 Aug 2002 15:46:53 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 15:46:53 -0400 From: Arnone, Anthony aarnone@grey.com Subject: delimited File I have a comma Delimited file and I need to read it in Quiz and break out each individual field. The Record looks like this: 099000,00172,02,07,01,800 I am not exactly sure what is the best and easiest way to accomplish this. Anthony From rmarcinik@juno.com Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:10:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 22:10:17 -0400 From: Roger L Marcinik rmarcinik@juno.com Subject: delimited File One way (may not be easiest) is: Read file into Excel. Adjust column lengths to number of characters needed per field. Save adjusted file as text file (fixed-length). Upload it to server. Build dummy subfile with fields and sizes needed (or just make an ASCII file in dictionary to match format needed). If using VMS, can use CONVERT to populate the subfile. Most sites have dummy files of 80 characters (or more) which can also be used and then parsed. On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 15:46:53 -0400 "Arnone, Anthony" writes: > I have a comma Delimited file and I need to read it in Quiz and break > out > each individual field. The Record looks like this: > > 099000,00172,02,07,01,800 > > I am not exactly sure what is the best and easiest way to accomplish > this. > > > Anthony > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. From kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:44:23 +0530 Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:44:23 +0530 From: Ganapathi kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Subject: How to bring the data into next line in a field This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-8c816525-b101-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02C5_01C246D6.8218BC40" ------=_NextPart_000_02C5_01C246D6.8218BC40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Sir, While getting huge data from 3 to 4 files in to a Filed (filed defined = variable is declared character 2000 and also used "FOR 15,80"), to = differentiate each and every file's data, how to move the data to the = next line after displaying first files' data in find mode. i.e TEMP T_TEXT CHAR*2000 FIELD T_TEXT FOR 15,80 DISPLAY while using this logic, the data is mixed with all files and unable to = identify quickly. procedure=20 begin let t_text =3D field1 of file1 let t_text =3D truncate(t_text)+filed1 of file2 end Required format is like: eg. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Firstfile date - aaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa SecondFile data - bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb Thirdfile data - ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc Fourthfile data - ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd dddddddd =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------=_NextPart_000_02C5_01C246D6.8218BC40 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear Sir,

While getting huge = data from 3 to=20 4 files in to a Filed (filed defined variable is declared character 2000 = and=20 also used "FOR 15,80"), to differentiate each and every file's data, how = to move=20 the data to the next line after displaying first files' data in find=20 mode.
i.e
TEMP T_TEXT CHAR*2000
 
FIELD T_TEXT
FOR 15,80
DISPLAY
 
while using this logic, the data is mixed with all files and unable = to=20 identify quickly.
 
procedure
begin
       let t_text =3D field1 of = file1
       let t_text =3D = truncate(t_text)+filed1=20 of file2
end
 
 
Required format is=20 like:
eg.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D

Firstfile=20 date - aaa=20 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa=
SecondFile=20 data -=20 bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Third= file=20 data -=20 ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc= cccccccc
Fourthfile=20 data -=20 ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
dddddddd
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
 
Thanks & Regards
Ganapathi
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(503) 644-6444 x4363 From richard.latimer@airways.co.nz Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:48:48 +1200 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 08:48:48 +1200 From: Latimer, Richard richard.latimer@airways.co.nz Subject: delimited File Hi Anthony, this can be done in Quiz but is much easier in QTP - see the annotated code exerpt below: ACCESS fatscsv DEFINE t_com char*1 = "," " this is set to be a comma, you could use other delimiters" DEFINE t_len num*3 = 200 DEFINE t_rec char*200 = txt_fats "this is the input file, 1 X 200 characters with embedded commas" TEMP t_service char*3 "these are the first three fields to be extracted, TEMP t_dte_filed char*8 "I left the others out for clarity !) TEMP t_tme_filed char*4 TEMP strt num*3 TEMP endd num*3 ; Service ITEM strt = 1 "beginning of the text string" ITEM endd = index(t_rec{strt:t_len - strt},t_com) "the first comma" ITEM t_service = t_rec{strt : endd - 1} "our first field : 1 to comma -1" ; Filed Date ITEM strt = strt + endd "start of the second field is comma + 1" ITEM endd = index(t_rec{strt:t_len - strt},t_com) "the second comma" ITEM t_dte_filed = t_rec{strt : endd - 1} "the second field" ; Filed Time "keep going . . . " ITEM strt = strt + endd ITEM endd = index(t_rec{strt:t_len - strt},t_com) ITEM t_tme_filed = t_rec{strt : endd - 1} SUBFILE ldfats keep include & "we subfiled them first but they can go straight" t_service, t_dte_filed, t_tme_filed, & "to a permanent file if you ncon() numbers" t_operator, t_acft, t_acfttype, & t_route, t_dte_dep, t_tme_dep, t_cde_callsign, t_txt_rmrks If you haven't got QTP and have to do it with Quiz you can do it with cascaded defines (quiz doesn't have temps and defines aren't as versatile) but expect a performance hit. Drop me a note off list and I will forward you a sample. cheers Richard ps list stalwart Jeff Hoffman first posted this code - it was in response to a query of mine asking the same question in September 2000 ! -----Original Message----- From: Arnone, Anthony [mailto:aarnone@grey.com] Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2002 7:47 a.m. To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: delimited File I have a comma Delimited file and I need to read it in Quiz and break out each individual field. The Record looks like this: 099000,00172,02,07,01,800 I am not exactly sure what is the best and easiest way to accomplish this. Anthony = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. ********************************************************************** This electronic message together with any attachments is confidential. If you receive it in error: (i) you must not use, disclose, copy or retain it; (ii) please contact the sender immediately by reply email and then delete the emails. Views expressed in this email may not be those of the Airways Corporation of New Zealand Limited ********************************************************************** From kbarrett@denkor.com Mon, 19 Aug 2002 04:21:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 04:21:25 -0700 From: kbarrett@denkor.com kbarrett@denkor.com Subject: Autoreply: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #437 - 2 msgs I am out of the office (on vacation) until Tuesday, September 3. If your need cannot wait until then, please forward your request to helpdesk@denkor.com and they will assign someone to assist you. I will review all emails received during my absence after 9/3. Thanks! Karen Barrett Senior Program Analyst Denkor Dental Management Corp. (503) 644-6444 x4363 From dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com Mon, 19 Aug 2002 07:29:23 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 07:29:23 -0700 From: David Morrison - Corporate dmorrison@mcbrideelectric.com Subject: delimited File Another way to handle this may be to use QUICK to process the data. David Morrison -----Original Message----- From: Roger L Marcinik [mailto:rmarcinik@juno.com] Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2002 7:10 PM To: aarnone@grey.com Cc: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: Re: delimited File One way (may not be easiest) is: Read file into Excel. Adjust column lengths to number of characters needed per field. Save adjusted file as text file (fixed-length). Upload it to server. Build dummy subfile with fields and sizes needed (or just make an ASCII file in dictionary to match format needed). If using VMS, can use CONVERT to populate the subfile. Most sites have dummy files of 80 characters (or more) which can also be used and then parsed. On Sat, 17 Aug 2002 15:46:53 -0400 "Arnone, Anthony" writes: > I have a comma Delimited file and I need to read it in Quiz and break > out > each individual field. The Record looks like this: > > 099000,00172,02,07,01,800 > > I am not exactly sure what is the best and easiest way to accomplish > this. > > > Anthony > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From george.j.wen@us.abb.com Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:42:28 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:42:28 -0500 From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com george.j.wen@us.abb.com Subject: delimited File If your file has more than a small amount of records QTP can be a real hog for this process but Quiz does a good job. It's quite simple actually, once you get the hang of it. You use "relative indexing" where you scan for the delimiter for each field. For example let's say you want name, addr, city out of a file. You'll have transferred your file to a subfile that has one large field in it that's large enough to hold the longest record of your file. Let's call the file TRANSFER-FILE and the field WORK-FIELD. Then in Quiz you'll do something like the following: Access TRANSFER-FILE def I1 = index(WORK-FIELD,",") ;*** fine the delimiter (comma in this case) def NAME char*40 = WORK-FIELD[1:I1 - 1] ;*** byte 1 through the index - 1 def WORK-FIELD-2 char*nnn = WORK-FIELD[I1 + 1:nnn - I1] ;***redefine the rest of work-field so you can start the process over ;nnn is the length of work-field def I2 = index(WORK-FIELD-2,","] ;*** index the new work field for the next field in the file def ADDR char*40 = WORK-FIELD-2[1:I2 - 1] ;*** def the next field def WORK-FIELD-3 char*nnn = WORK-FIELD-2[I2 + 1:nnn - I2] ;*** start process again as in WORK-FIELD-2 def I3 = index(WORK-FIELD-3,",") def CITY char*25 = WORK-FIELD-2[1:I3 - 1] and so on...................... Report Summary NAME ADDR CITY Set Subfile Name.................................................................... etc. hope this helps. It works well and fast in Quiz - even for a large file |----------> | | |----------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------| | | >--------------------------------------------------------------------| -----Original Message----- From: Arnone, Anthony [mailto:aarnone@grey.com] Sent: Sunday, 18 August 2002 7:47 a.m. To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: delimited File I have a comma Delimited file and I need to read it in Quiz and break out each individual field. The Record looks like this: 099000,00172,02,07,01,800 I am not exactly sure what is the best and easiest way to accomplish this. Anthony From robert.mills@windsong-services.co.uk Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:15:25 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:15:25 +0100 From: Robert Mills robert.mills@windsong-services.co.uk Subject: delimited File This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24793.3E8B5B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Note that fields which may/may not be quoted will require some additional work. (See sample code from a program I wrote last week) ; d-DELIM-03 points to the comma that terminated the previous field. Define d-DELIM-04 & = d-DELIM-03 + 1 & If d-DATA[(d-DELIM-03 + 1):1] = '"' & Else d-DELIM-03 Define d-DELIM-05 & = Index(d-DATA[d-DELIM-04 + 1:512],'"') + d-DELIM-04 & If d-DELIM-03 <> d-DELIM-04 & Else Index(d-DATA[d-DELIM-04 + 1:512],",") + d-DELIM-04 Define d-DELIM-06 & = d-DELIM-05 + 1 & If d-DATA[d-DELIM-05:1] = '"' & Else d-DELIM-05 Define d-ITEM-NAME Character *80 & = Pack(d-DATA[(d-DELIM-04 + 1):(d-DELIM-05 - d-DELIM-04 - 1)]) regards, Robert W.Mills Systems Development Manager Windsong Services george.j.wen@us.abb.com wrote: > If your file has more than a small amount of records QTP can be a > real hog for this process but Quiz does a good job. It's quite > simple actually, once you get the hang of it. You use "relative > indexing" where you scan for the delimiter for each field. For > example let's say you want name, > addr, city out of a file. You'll have transferred your file to a > subfile that has one large field in it that's > large enough to hold the longest record of your file. Let's call the > file TRANSFER-FILE and the field WORK-FIELD. Then in Quiz you'll do > something like the following: Access TRANSFER-FILE > def I1 = index(WORK-FIELD,",") ;*** fine the delimiter > (comma in this case) def NAME char*40 = WORK-FIELD[1:I1 - 1] ;*** > byte 1 through the index - 1 def WORK-FIELD-2 char*nnn = > WORK-FIELD[I1 + 1:nnn - I1] ;***redefine the rest of work-field so > you can start the process over > ;nnn is the length of work-field def I2 = index(WORK-FIELD-2,","] > ;*** index the new work field for the next field in the file > def ADDR char*40 = WORK-FIELD-2[1:I2 - 1] ;*** def the next field > def WORK-FIELD-3 char*nnn = WORK-FIELD-2[I2 + 1:nnn - I2] ;*** > start process again as in WORK-FIELD-2 > > def I3 = index(WORK-FIELD-3,",") > def CITY char*25 = WORK-FIELD-2[1:I3 - 1] > and so on...................... > > Report Summary NAME ADDR CITY > Set Subfile > Name.................................................................... etc. > > > hope this helps. It works well and fast in Quiz - even for a large > file > > >> ----------> >> | >> ----------> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------| | | > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------| > > > > > > > Arnone, Anthony wrote: > I have a comma Delimited file and I need to read it in Quiz and break > out each individual field. The Record looks like this: > > 099000,00172,02,07,01,800 > > I am not exactly sure what is the best and easiest way to accomplish > this. > > > Anthony > > > > > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message > body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, > thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24793.3E8B5B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: delimited File

Note that fields which may/may not be quoted will = require some additional work.
(See sample code from a program I wrote last = week)

; d-DELIM-03 points to the comma that terminated the = previous field.

Define = d-DELIM-04          &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;   &
     =3D d-DELIM-03 + = 1            = ;            = ;            = ;          &
         If = d-DATA[(d-DELIM-03 + 1):1] =3D = '"'          &nbs= p;            = &
  Else d-DELIM-03

Define = d-DELIM-05          &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;   &
     =3D Index(d-DATA[d-DELIM-04 = + 1:512],'"') + = d-DELIM-04          = &
         If = d-DELIM-03 <> = d-DELIM-04          &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;        &
  Else Index(d-DATA[d-DELIM-04 + = 1:512],",") + d-DELIM-04

Define = d-DELIM-06          &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;   &
     =3D d-DELIM-05 + = 1            = ;            = ;            = ;          &
         If = d-DATA[d-DELIM-05:1] =3D = '"'          &nbs= p;           &nbs= p;      &
  Else d-DELIM-05

Define = d-ITEM-NAME           = Character = *80           &nb= sp;           &nb= sp; &
     =3D Pack(d-DATA[(d-DELIM-04 = + 1):(d-DELIM-05 - d-DELIM-04 - 1)])

regards,

Robert W.Mills
Systems Development Manager
Windsong Services



george.j.wen@us.abb.com wrote:
> If your file has more than a small amount of = records QTP can be a
> real hog for this process but Quiz does a good = job.  It's quite
> simple actually, once you get the hang of = it.  You use "relative
> indexing" where you scan for the delimiter = for each field.  For
> example let's say you want name,
> addr, city out of a file.  You'll have = transferred your file to a
> subfile that has one large field in it  = that's
> large enough to hold the longest record of your = file.  Let's call the
> file TRANSFER-FILE and the field = WORK-FIELD.  Then in Quiz you'll do
> something like the following: Access = TRANSFER-FILE
> def I1 =3D = index(WORK-FIELD,",")       = ;         ;*** fine the = delimiter
> (comma in this case) def NAME char*40 =3D = WORK-FIELD[1:I1 - 1]  ;***
> byte 1 through the index - 1 def WORK-FIELD-2 = char*nnn =3D
> WORK-FIELD[I1 + 1:nnn - I1] ;***redefine the = rest of work-field so
> you can start the process = over           &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;  
> ;nnn is the length of work-field def I2 =3D = index(WORK-FIELD-2,","]   
> ;*** index the new work field for the next = field in the file
> def ADDR char*40 =3D WORK-FIELD-2[1:I2 - = 1]     ;*** def the next field
> def WORK-FIELD-3 char*nnn =3D WORK-FIELD-2[I2 + = 1:nnn - I2]    ;***
> start process again as in WORK-FIELD-2
>
> def I3 =3D = index(WORK-FIELD-3,",")
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> 099000,00172,02,07,01,800
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> I am not exactly sure what is the best and = easiest way to accomplish
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------_=_NextPart_001_01C24793.3E8B5B00-- From BEdis@usbnc.org Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:45:58 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 17:45:58 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: How to bring the data into next line in a field This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C247D2.2F45E810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Ganapathi I am having a little difficulty understanding what you want to do. Are you saying: 1. you have a screen that displays a single record with a large text field and you want to know how to edit it? 2. you have a screen that displays a single record with a large text field and you want to know how to manipulate it in procedural logic? 3. you have a screen that displays a large temp text field and you want to append data from several records into it? When you say "huge data from 3 to 4 files" do you mean the screen is reading 3 to 4 files and the combination of records represents a lot of data on the screen? I think you are saying you want to concatenate the data field the same field in many records of one file together into a temp field on the screen. If so why? How do you know how many records you will have to concatenate? Is 2000 bytes going to be enough? Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in] Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:14 AM To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Subject: How to bring the data into next line in a field Dear Sir, While getting huge data from 3 to 4 files in to a Filed (filed defined variable is declared character 2000 and also used "FOR 15,80"), to differentiate each and every file's data, how to move the data to the next line after displaying first files' data in find mode. i.e TEMP T_TEXT CHAR*2000 FIELD T_TEXT FOR 15,80 DISPLAY while using this logic, the data is mixed with all files and unable to identify quickly. procedure begin let t_text = field1 of file1 let t_text = truncate(t_text)+filed1 of file2 end Required format is like: eg. ============================================= Firstfile date - aaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa SecondFile data - bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb Thirdfile data - ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc Fourthfile data - ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd dddddddd ============================================== Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------_=_NextPart_001_01C247D2.2F45E810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Ganapathi
 
I am having a little difficulty understanding what you want to do.  Are you saying:
 
1. you have a screen that displays a single record with a large text field and you want to know how to edit it?
2. you have a screen that displays a single record with a large text field and you want to know how to manipulate it in procedural logic?
3. you have a screen that displays a large temp text field and you want to append data from several records into it?
 
When you say "huge data from 3 to 4 files" do you mean the screen is reading 3 to 4 files and the combination of records represents a lot of data on the screen?
 
I think you are saying you want to concatenate the data field the same field in many records of one file together into a temp field on the screen.  If so why?  How do you know how many records you will have to concatenate?  Is 2000 bytes going to be enough?
 
Regards,
Blue
-----Original Message-----
From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in]
Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 6:14 AM
To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu
Subject: How to bring the data into next line in a field

Dear Sir,

While getting huge data from 3 to 4 files in to a Filed (filed defined variable is declared character 2000 and also used "FOR 15,80"), to differentiate each and every file's data, how to move the data to the next line after displaying first files' data in find mode.
i.e
TEMP T_TEXT CHAR*2000
 
FIELD T_TEXT
FOR 15,80
DISPLAY
 
while using this logic, the data is mixed with all files and unable to identify quickly.
 
procedure
begin
       let t_text = field1 of file1
       let t_text = truncate(t_text)+filed1 of file2
end
 
 
Required format is like:
eg.
=============================================

Firstfile date - aaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
SecondFile data - bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
Thirdfile data - ccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
cccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc
Fourthfile data - ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
dddddddd
==============================================
 
Thanks & Regards
Ganapathi
------_=_NextPart_001_01C247D2.2F45E810-- From IOlson@saputo.com Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:29:27 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:29:27 -0700 From: Olson, Ingemar IOlson@saputo.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) On August 8th I wrote: > There has been very little discussion on this group about > upgrades to 8.30. > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > How about it folks? > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > what I'm most interested in hearing. Surprisingly (to me) I only got a handful of responses (5) and since it's been a while since the last one I don't expect any more now. And the summary: o Only 1 person had actually gone to 8.30, and had no major glitches. o Two people had gone to intermediate versions (8,10, 8.20) and both had negative comments ("struggling without POW", "very painful") although the latter (at least) is proceeding to 8.30. o One person is intending to, but is not in a rush. o One person has no plans to upgrade (system on life-support). In other words, the complete gamut! However, I can't believe there are only 6 VMS / Powerhouse shops out there. Did I not ask the right question? No-one working in the summer? If anyone else would like to comment, even if your situation doesn't exactly match that in my question, I will re-summarize the results. Ingemar Olson From Eric.Hoppe@steelscape-inc.com Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:43:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:43:22 -0700 From: Hoppe, Eric EP Eric.Hoppe@steelscape-inc.com Subject: delimited File This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01C247DA.34815910 Content-Type: text/plain Anthony- Here is how we do it on an Alpha (OpenVMS, RMS) We have a record called RMSUTILITY with one element DS-INSTR. RMSUTILITY is a sequential, RMS, variable file DS-INSTR is a char 500 field We ftp the file to the Alpha, define the logical RMSUTILITY to the ftp'ed file, and run a quick screen. We use quick screen because it is very easy to debug and step through during testing. It is also extremely easy to modify from one file to another. We had one programmer who insisted on creating a fixed width file, dumping it onto the Alpha and working with a 'proper' fixed width file. This meant we had to maintain programs on multiple platforms every time we got a new file. I realize ExcelXP finally may have it right because I have been successfully saving fixed width files from it lately for import into our DB. For the sake of easiness, I will just attach one of the programs that reads through the .csv file. Basically, it reads the data out to the next comma, processes it, saves the test string on top of itself sans the last data element and reads the data out to the next comma... So on and so forth. It doesn't matter how large or small your fields are. This example is a simple one chosen to illustrate how the process works. You may use it as a template if you like. I wrote it, so I guess I own it and legally, I can decide to share it as long as it doesn't hurt my employer. The meat and potatoes starts in the initialization procedure. If you have any questions, please let me know. ---ehops ============================================================================ ================ Message: 2 From: "Arnone, Anthony" To: "'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu'" Subject: delimited File Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2002 15:46:53 -0400 charset="iso-8859-1" I have a comma Delimited file and I need to read it in Quiz and break out each individual field. The Record looks like this: 099000,00172,02,07,01,800 I am not exactly sure what is the best and easiest way to accomplish this. Anthony ------_=_NextPart_000_01C247DA.34815910 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; name="sthbaq03_email.qks" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="sthbaq03_email.qks" ;=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ; STHBAQ03.QKS ; ; Description: Ghost screen for one time import of coil data. ; This program will load the Paint details ; into the coil comments. ; ; Modification history: ;------+---------+-----+------------------------------------------------= ------- ; Vers | Date | Who | Reason ;------+---------+-----+------------------------------------------------= ------- ; 1.0 |03-jun-02| eph | original based on STHBAQ02.QKS ; | | | ; | | | ;=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D cancel clear set default set verify screen PHRUN:STHBAQ03 nomode & action at 2,1 & message on line 7 & activities entry & autoreturn & autoupdate file RMSUTILITY designer file STKITEM designer file STKITEMCM designer open 0 file STKITEMCM designer alias STKITEMCM-ALIAS open 1 file STKITEMPAINT designer open 0 file STKITEMPAINT designer alias STKITEMPAINT-ALIAS open 1 file PAINT designer ;***********************************************************************= **** ;* Temps and Defines ;***********************************************************************= **** temp T-TEXT char size 1000 ; temp T-CTR num*2 ; temp T-ERR-MSG char size 100 temp T-COMMAND char size 250 ; temp T-CM-SEQ zoned*5 unsigned temp T-PNT-SEQ char*2 temp T-KY-STKITEMCM char*32 temp T-PREFIX char*10 initial "" temp T-PP-PNT-NBR char*20 temp T-SS-PNT-NBR char*4 temp T-DS-PNT char*25 ;***********************************************************************= **** ;* procedures ;***********************************************************************= **** procedure internal MAIL-ERROR-MESSAGE ; generic mail message sender begin let T-COMMAND =3D "submit/que=3Dwarm/log=3DOP/noprint/noidentify " = + & 'SM:MAILFILE /param=3D("' + "PHDAT:NULLFILE.DAT" + = '",' + & '"@phdat:ehops.dis",' + '"' + = & truncate(T-ERR-MSG) + '")' run command T-COMMAND end procedure internal GET-HIGHEST-COMMENT-SEQ begin ; ;see if there are any existing comments for the coil to correctly ;sequence the comment ; while ret STKITEMCM-ALIAS via KY-STKITEM using KY-STKITEM of = STKITEM begin let T-CM-SEQ =3D NO-SEQ of STKITEMCM-ALIAS end end procedure internal POPULATE-STKITEMPAINT begin let KY-STKITEM of STKITEMPAINT =3D KY-STKITEM of STKITEMCM if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "10" then begin let CD-TOP-REV of STKITEMPAINT =3D 1 let NO-APPL-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D 2 let TH-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D TH-PNT-FIN-TOP of STKITEM let CD-COATER of STKITEMPAINT =3D "F" end else if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "20" then begin let CD-TOP-REV of STKITEMPAINT =3D 2 let NO-APPL-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D 2 let TH-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D TH-PNT-FIN-REV of STKITEM let CD-COATER of STKITEMPAINT =3D "F" end else if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "30" then begin let CD-TOP-REV of STKITEMPAINT =3D 1 let NO-APPL-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D 1 let TH-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D TH-CLR-TOP of STKITEM let CD-COATER of STKITEMPAINT =3D "P" end else if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "40" then begin let CD-TOP-REV of STKITEMPAINT =3D 2 let NO-APPL-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D 1 let TH-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D TH-CLR-REV of STKITEM let CD-COATER of STKITEMPAINT =3D "P" end let NO-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D nconv(T-SS-PNT-NBR) let NO-PASS of STKITEMPAINT =3D 1 get PAINT via NO-PAINT using nconv(T-SS-PNT-NBR) opt if accessok then let DS-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D DS-PAINT of PAINT else let DS-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D "PP: " + T-DS-PNT get STKITEMPAINT-ALIAS via KY-STKITEMPAINT using KY-STKITEMPAINT of = STKITEMPAINT opt if accessok then begin let T-ERR-MSG =3D "Paint Info: " + trunc(KY-STKITEMPAINT of = STKITEMPAINT) & + " already exists!" do internal MAIL-ERROR-MESSAGE ; ;initialize data fields ; let ky-stkitempaint of stkitempaint =3D "" let no-paint of stkitempaint =3D 0 let ds-paint of stkitempaint =3D "" let th-paint of stkitempaint =3D 0 let fl-th-paint-nom of stkitempaint =3D "" let no-pass of stkitempaint =3D 0 let cd-coater of stkitempaint =3D "" end else put STKITEMPAINT reset ; ;fill the empty fields of STKITEMPAINT ; let KY-STKITEM of STKITEMPAINT =3D KY-STKITEM of STKITEMCM if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "10" then begin let CD-TOP-REV of STKITEMPAINT =3D 1 let NO-APPL-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D 4 end else if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "20" then begin let CD-TOP-REV of STKITEMPAINT =3D 2 let NO-APPL-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D 4 end else if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "30" then begin let CD-TOP-REV of STKITEMPAINT =3D 1 let NO-APPL-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D 3 end else if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "40" then begin let CD-TOP-REV of STKITEMPAINT =3D 2 let NO-APPL-PAINT of STKITEMPAINT =3D 3 end get STKITEMPAINT-ALIAS via KY-STKITEMPAINT using KY-STKITEMPAINT of = STKITEMPAINT opt if accessok then begin let T-ERR-MSG =3D "Paint Info: " + trunc(KY-STKITEMPAINT of = STKITEMPAINT) & + " already exists!" do internal MAIL-ERROR-MESSAGE end else put STKITEMPAINT reset end procedure initialize begin while retrieving RMSUTILITY sequential begin let T-TEXT =3D DS-INSTR of RMSUTILITY ; ;get the coil ID ; let T-CTR =3D index(T-TEXT,",") let CD-STK-PREFIX of STKITEMCM =3D T-TEXT[1:T-CTR - 1] let T-TEXT =3D TRUNC(T-TEXT[T-CTR + 1:1000]) if T-PREFIX <> CD-STK-PREFIX of STKITEMCM then let T-CM-SEQ =3D 0 ; ;make sure this coil exists in SIMS ; get STKITEM via CD-STK-PREFIX using CD-STK-PREFIX of STKITEMCM = opt if not accessok or CD-POP-OWNER of STKITEM <> "B" then begin if T-PREFIX <> CD-STK-PREFIX of STKITEMCM then begin let T-ERR-MSG =3D "JBA COIL (" + trunc(ID-STK of = STKITEMCM) & + ") DOES NOT EXIST IN SIMS!" do internal MAIL-ERROR-MESSAGE let T-PREFIX =3D CD-STK-PREFIX of STKITEMCM end end else begin do internal GET-HIGHEST-COMMENT-SEQ let KY-STKITEM of STKITEMCM =3D KY-STKITEM of STKITEM ; ;get the paint sequence number. ; let T-CTR =3D index(T-TEXT,",") let T-PNT-SEQ =3D T-TEXT[1:T-CTR - 1] let T-TEXT =3D TRUNC(T-TEXT[T-CTR + 1:1000]) let CD-TY-COMMENT of STKITEMCM =3D "BYP" let NO-SEQ of STKITEMCM =3D T-CM-SEQ + 100 let CD-LOGON of STKITEMCM =3D "JBA UPLOAD" ; ;get the paint part number ; let T-CTR =3D index(T-TEXT,",") let T-PP-PNT-NBR =3D T-TEXT[1:T-CTR - 1] ;let DS-COMMENT of STKITEMCM =3D T-TEXT[1:T-CTR - 1] let T-TEXT =3D TRUNC(T-TEXT[T-CTR + 1:1000]) ; ;try to match their paint number with our supplier code ; get PAINT via NO-PAINT-SUPPL using trunc(T-PP-PNT-NBR) opt if accessok then let T-SS-PNT-NBR =3D ascii(NO-PAINT of PAINT) else begin ; ;if no match was found between the JBA paint part = number and the ;steelscape supplier code, assign the default standard = steelscape ;paint numbers GaryP set up for the JBA paints ; if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "10" then let T-SS-PNT-NBR =3D "7512" else if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "20" then let T-SS-PNT-NBR =3D "7513" else if T-PNT-SEQ =3D "30" or T-PNT-SEQ =3D "40" then let T-SS-PNT-NBR =3D "7511" end ; ;get the paint description ; let T-CTR =3D index(T-TEXT,",") let T-DS-PNT =3D T-TEXT[1:T-CTR - 1] let T-TEXT =3D TRUNC(T-TEXT[T-CTR + 1:1000]) let DS-COMMENT of STKITEMCM & =3D trunc(T-PNT-SEQ) + " : " & + trunc(T-SS-PNT-NBR) + " : " & + trunc(T-PP-PNT-NBR) + " : " & + trunc(T-DS-PNT) let DT-COMMENT of STKITEMCM =3D sysdate let TI-COMMENT of STKITEMCM =3D systime let FL-SCHEDULE of STKITEMCM =3D "Y" let T-KY-STKITEMCM =3D KY-STKITEMCM of STKITEMCM do internal POPULATE-STKITEMPAINT put STKITEMCM reset info =3D T-KY-STKITEMCM + " put successful!" now end end return end build detail list ------_=_NextPart_000_01C247DA.34815910-- From kbarrett@denkor.com Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:40:13 -0700 Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 16:40:13 -0700 From: kbarrett@denkor.com kbarrett@denkor.com Subject: Autoreply: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #438 - 7 msgs I am out of the office (on vacation) until Tuesday, September 3. If your need cannot wait until then, please forward your request to helpdesk@denkor.com and they will assign someone to assist you. I will review all emails received during my absence after 9/3. Thanks! Karen Barrett Senior Program Analyst Denkor Dental Management Corp. (503) 644-6444 x4363 From Graeme.Lemin@team.telstra.com Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:57:14 +1000 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:57:14 +1000 From: Lemin, Graeme Graeme.Lemin@team.telstra.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) Hi Ingemar It's winter here, and we're still working. We are looking at upgrading to 8.30, but we need to be able to convince management that it's something that MUST be done, and that there will be no negative impacts to the services we provide. Although we haven't contributed to the discussion, we've been watching this subject with interest. Our hardware and O/S is being upgraded at the same time, so we're possibly looking at ES45 processors running VMS 7.3. regards Graeme Lemin Melbourne, Australia > -----Original Message----- > From: Olson, Ingemar [SMTP:IOlson@saputo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 20 August 2002 9:29 am > To: 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' > Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) > > On August 8th I wrote: > > > There has been very little discussion on this group about > > upgrades to 8.30. > > > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > > > How about it folks? > > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > > what I'm most interested in hearing. > > Surprisingly (to me) I only got a handful of responses (5) and since > it's been a while since the last one I don't expect any more now. > > And the summary: > o Only 1 person had actually gone to 8.30, and had no major glitches. > o Two people had gone to intermediate versions (8,10, 8.20) and both > had negative comments ("struggling without POW", "very painful") > although the latter (at least) is proceeding to 8.30. > o One person is intending to, but is not in a rush. > o One person has no plans to upgrade (system on life-support). > > In other words, the complete gamut! > > However, I can't believe there are only 6 VMS / Powerhouse shops out > there. Did I not ask the right question? No-one working in the summer? > > If anyone else would like to comment, even if your situation doesn't > exactly match that in my question, I will re-summarize the results. > > Ingemar Olson > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:37:20 +0530 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 10:37:20 +0530 From: Ganapathi kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Subject: Field - Scroll This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-7c0f049d-b335-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01C24835.903C9070" ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C24835.903C9070 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Sir, Can you help in the following problem. The Scroll options is not applicable to the Field which is defined as = 10,000 characters size. I defined the field as mentioned below. ---------------------------------- Filed T_TEXT for 15,80 Display ---------------------------------- The screen contain only one field. The data(getting from file) is displaying only first page and am unable = to get the remaining pages of data. Can you suggest any simple method, so that scroll is applicable to the = field data in find mode. OS : QVT/VMS Thanks & Regards Ganapathi=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C24835.903C9070 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear Sir,

Can you help in the following problem.

The Scroll options is not applicable to the Field which is defined as = 10,000=20 characters size. I defined the field as mentioned below.

----------------------------------

Filed T_TEXT

for 15,80

Display

----------------------------------

The screen contain only one field.

The data(getting from file) is displaying only first page and am = unable to=20 get the remaining pages of data.

Can you suggest any simple method, so that scroll is applicable to = the field=20 data in find mode.

OS : QVT/VMS

Thanks & Regards

Ganapathi

 

------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C24835.903C9070-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-7c0f049d-b335-11d6-accc-005004267636-- From kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:42:20 +0530 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 11:42:20 +0530 From: Ganapathi kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Subject: String Length This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-7c0f0633-b335-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01C2483E.A495D410" ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C2483E.A495D410 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear sir, Is there any built-in function to findout the length of a string in = QDESIGN ? Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C2483E.A495D410 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear sir,
 
Is there any built-in function to = findout the=20 length of a string in QDESIGN ?
 
Thanks & = Regards
Ganapathi
------=_NextPart_000_004B_01C2483E.A495D410-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-7c0f0633-b335-11d6-accc-005004267636-- From kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:42:49 +0530 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:42:49 +0530 From: Ganapathi kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in Subject: Error This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPartTM-000-7c0f07bb-b335-11d6-accc-005004267636 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0078_01C24847.177AB1F0" ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C24847.177AB1F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Dear Sir, I am getting the following error message after PROCEDURE FIND is = executed. Getting the same message for independant programs as well as = calling from other programs also. "This action isn't valid for this screen." Can you please clarify on this. Thanks & Regards Ganapati ------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C24847.177AB1F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
Dear Sir,
 
I am getting the following error = message after=20 PROCEDURE FIND is executed.  Getting the same message for = independant=20 programs as well as calling from other programs also.
 
"This action isn't valid for = this=20 screen."
 
Can you please clarify on = this.
 
Thanks & Regards
Ganapati
 
------=_NextPart_000_0078_01C24847.177AB1F0-- ------=_NextPartTM-000-7c0f07bb-b335-11d6-accc-005004267636-- From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:13:11 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:13:11 -0400 From: Deskin, Bob Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Subject: Error This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2483A.91D0ABB0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" This message means that either the user or the developer through a PUSHed command is attempting to execute an action field command that is not valid. Check the ACTIVITIES option to see what's allowed on the screen. Bob Deskin PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in] Sent: August 20, 2002 3:13 AM To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Subject: Error Dear Sir, I am getting the following error message after PROCEDURE FIND is executed. Getting the same message for independant programs as well as calling from other programs also. "This action isn't valid for this screen." Can you please clarify on this. Thanks & Regards Ganapati This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2483A.91D0ABB0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This=20 message means that either the user or the developer through a PUSHed = command is=20 attempting to execute an action field command that is not valid. Check = the=20 ACTIVITIES option to see what's allowed on the = screen.
 

Bob=20 Deskin           =   =20
PowerHouse Web Product = Manager, Application = Development=20 Tools
Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside = Drive, Ottawa ON = K1G 4K9=20 CANADA
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) = 738-1338 ext=20 7268

-----Original Message-----
From: Ganapathi=20 [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in]
Sent: August 20, 2002 = 3:13=20 AM
To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu
Subject:=20 Error

Dear Sir,
 
I am getting the following error = message after=20 PROCEDURE FIND is executed.  Getting the same message for = independant=20 programs as well as calling from other programs also.
 
"This action isn't valid for = this=20 screen."
 
Can you please clarify on = this.
 
Thanks & Regards
Ganapati
 

This message may contain privileged = and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in = error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, = disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it = immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail = that you have done so. Thank you.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2483A.91D0ABB0-- From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:16:59 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 07:16:59 -0400 From: Deskin, Bob Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Subject: String Length This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2483B.19A85DD0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" You can use the SIZE function. However, if you take the SIZE of a fixed length datatype item, SIZE simply returns the size of the item. If you want the length of the string up to the last non-blank character, also use the TRUNCATE function as in DEFINE size-of-text INT SIZE 2 = SIZE(TRUNCATE(item)) Bob Deskin PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Ganapathi [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in] Sent: August 20, 2002 2:12 AM To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Cc: Ganapathi Subject: String Length Dear sir, Is there any built-in function to findout the length of a string in QDESIGN ? Thanks & Regards Ganapathi This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2483B.19A85DD0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You=20 can use the SIZE function. However, if you take the SIZE of a fixed = length=20 datatype item, SIZE simply returns the size of the item. If you want = the length=20 of the string up to the last non-blank character, also use the TRUNCATE = function=20 as in
 
DEFINE=20 size-of-text INT SIZE 2 =3D SIZE(TRUNCATE(item))
 

Bob=20 Deskin           =   =20
PowerHouse Web Product = Manager, Application = Development=20 Tools
Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside = Drive, Ottawa ON = K1G 4K9=20 CANADA
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) = 738-1338 ext=20 7268

-----Original Message-----
From: Ganapathi=20 [mailto:kganapathi@chennai.tcs.co.in]
Sent: August 20, 2002 = 2:12=20 AM
To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu
Cc:=20 Ganapathi
Subject: String Length

Dear sir,
 
Is there any built-in function = to findout=20 the length of a string in QDESIGN ?
 
Thanks & = Regards
Ganapathi

This message may contain privileged = and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in = error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, = disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it = immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail = that you have done so. Thank you.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2483B.19A85DD0-- From kbarrett@denkor.com Tue, 20 Aug 2002 04:21:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 04:21:36 -0700 From: kbarrett@denkor.com kbarrett@denkor.com Subject: Autoreply: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #439 - 7 msgs I am out of the office (on vacation) until Tuesday, September 3. If your need cannot wait until then, please forward your request to helpdesk@denkor.com and they will assign someone to assist you. I will review all emails received during my absence after 9/3. Thanks! Karen Barrett Senior Program Analyst Denkor Dental Management Corp. (503) 644-6444 x4363 From merol.newman@ramesys.com Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:40:43 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 12:40:43 +0100 From: Merol Newman merol.newman@ramesys.com Subject: String Length This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C24846.CCD4BD80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello When you are running the screen in Quick, you can go into the field and type ? or ??. That will tell you the size. I notice that in an earlier posting your field statement has "display" on it. So you won't be able to do the above, or use control-B to get to the end of the text. Take out the "display". It stops users from accessing the field - it means "display only", but you said you wanted them to be able to edit it. You will then be able to use control-B, and use the arrow keys to go back through the text line by line. It might be worth looking up "blob" - this is a storage format for large data items, even photographs! If your blob is plain text, you can edit it using any available text editor, which would make it much easier to reach the part you want to edit than the rather limited editing powers of Quick. regards Merol merol.newman@ramesys.com Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788 823601 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Ganapathi Sent: 20 August 2002 07:12 To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Cc: Ganapathi Subject: String Length Dear sir, Is there any built-in function to findout the length of a string in QDESIGN ? Thanks & Regards Ganapathi ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C24846.CCD4BD80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello
 
When you are running the screen in Quick, you = can go=20 into the field and type ? or ??. That will tell you the size.=20
 
I notice that in an earlier posting your = field=20 statement has "display" on it. So you won't be able to do the above,=20 or use control-B to get to the end of the text. Take out=20 the "display". It stops users from accessing the field - it=20 means "display only", but you said you wanted them to be able = to edit=20 it. You will then be able to use control-B, and use the arrow keys = to go=20 back through the text line by line.
 
It might be worth looking up "blob" - this is a storage format = for large=20 data items, even photographs! If your blob is plain text, you can edit = it=20 using any available text editor, which would make it much easier to = reach=20 the part you want to edit than the rather limited editing powers of = Quick.=20
 
regards
Merol

merol.newman@ramesys.com
Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, = Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL
phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788=20 823601
 

 
-----Original Message-----
From: = powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu=20 [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of=20 Ganapathi
Sent: 20 August 2002 07:12
To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu 
 Cc: = Ganapathi
Subject:=20 String Length

Dear sir,
 
Is there any built-in function to = findout the=20 length of a string in QDESIGN ?
 
Thanks & = Regards
Ganapathi
------=_NextPart_000_0028_01C24846.CCD4BD80-- From rmhill@core.com Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:55:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 09:55:37 -0400 From: Rick Hill rmhill@core.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) Hello, Ingemar -- I've consulted for quite a few years in Powerhouse environments on both VMS and Unix platforms. I think the majority of Powerhouse sites on VMS these days are legacy, where there is no perceived major benefit to doing an upgrade like that. These apps are either getting replaced by packages, re-written in newer technology, or not being enhanced. This may explain the low level of response. The pattern I have seen in the states is that if a VMS Powerhouse app is going to be enhanced or used in the medium-range, it is being migrated to Unix so it can run efficiently on hardware with a future and against a database such as Oracle. This also is a good first step to stage it better for being re-written eventually in client-server technology. All the best... Rick Hill Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A. > On August 8th I wrote: > > > There has been very little discussion on this group about > > upgrades to 8.30. > > > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > > > How about it folks? > > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > > what I'm most interested in hearing. > > Surprisingly (to me) I only got a handful of responses (5) and since > it's been a while since the last one I don't expect any more now. > > And the summary: > o Only 1 person had actually gone to 8.30, and had no major glitches. > o Two people had gone to intermediate versions (8,10, 8.20) and both > had negative comments ("struggling without POW", "very painful") > although the latter (at least) is proceeding to 8.30. > o One person is intending to, but is not in a rush. > o One person has no plans to upgrade (system on life-support). > > In other words, the complete gamut! > > However, I can't believe there are only 6 VMS / Powerhouse shops out > there. Did I not ask the right question? No-one working in the summer? > > If anyone else would like to comment, even if your situation doesn't > exactly match that in my question, I will re-summarize the results. > > Ingemar Olson > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l- request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l- request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com From john.webster@clear.net.nz Wed, 21 Aug 2002 07:44:49 +1200 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 07:44:49 +1200 From: John Webster john.webster@clear.net.nz Subject: Error Methinks there is the opportunity for someone to run a PowerHouse training course in India ? Ah, the delights of offshore outsourcing! > > >Dear Sir, > >I am getting the following error message after PROCEDURE FIND is >executed. Getting the same message for independant programs as well as >calling from other programs also. > >"This action isn't valid for this screen." > >Can you please clarify on this. > >Thanks & Regards >Ganapati > > > > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > ---------------------------------- John Webster Wellington, New Zealand One of the World Wide Websters ------------------------------ From terrycurran@onetel.net.uk Tue, 20 Aug 2002 20:56:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 20:56:54 +0100 From: Terry Curran terrycurran@onetel.net.uk Subject: Error I think RTFM is what our indian colleagues should do first. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of John Webster Sent: 20 August 2002 20:45 To: Ganapathi; powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Subject: Re: Error Methinks there is the opportunity for someone to run a PowerHouse training course in India ? Ah, the delights of offshore outsourcing! > > >Dear Sir, > >I am getting the following error message after PROCEDURE FIND is >executed. Getting the same message for independant programs as well as >calling from other programs also. > >"This action isn't valid for this screen." > >Can you please clarify on this. > >Thanks & Regards >Ganapati > > > > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > ---------------------------------- John Webster Wellington, New Zealand One of the World Wide Websters ------------------------------ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From SGates@olbh.com Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:03:52 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 16:03:52 -0400 From: Scott Gates SGates@olbh.com Subject: Error Under most circumstances that would be appropriate advice, however, the Cognos manuals are, at times, 'difficult' to decipher when English is your first language. So sometime RTFM only adds to the confusion. -----Original Message----- From: Terry Curran [mailto:terrycurran@onetel.net.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:57 PM To: john.webster@clear.net.nz; Ganapathi; powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Subject: RE: Error I think RTFM is what our indian colleagues should do first. -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of John Webster Sent: 20 August 2002 20:45 To: Ganapathi; powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Subject: Re: Error Methinks there is the opportunity for someone to run a PowerHouse training course in India ? Ah, the delights of offshore outsourcing! > > >Dear Sir, > >I am getting the following error message after PROCEDURE FIND is >executed. Getting the same message for independant programs as well as >calling from other programs also. > >"This action isn't valid for this screen." > >Can you please clarify on this. > >Thanks & Regards >Ganapati > > > > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > ---------------------------------- John Webster Wellington, New Zealand One of the World Wide Websters ------------------------------ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From merol.newman@ramesys.com Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:09:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 22:09:32 +0100 From: Merol Newman merol.newman@ramesys.com Subject: Error Agreed! How long would you have to search for the cause of "This action isn't valid for this screen." if you didn't know what caused it? Looking things up in the manual is OK when you know what to look for! Good luck, Ganapathi! Merol merol.newman@ramesys.com Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788 823601 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Scott Gates Sent: 20 August 2002 21:04 To: 'Powerh-L (E-mail) Cc: 'Terry Curran' Subject: RE: Error Under most circumstances that would be appropriate advice, however, the Cognos manuals are, at times, 'difficult' to decipher when English is your first language. So sometime RTFM only adds to the confusion. From Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:15:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 14:15:53 -0700 From: Witkopp, Richard Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Subject: Error They also may not have any printed FM if they're connecting remotely to the client's site stateside. > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Gates [mailto:SGates@olbh.com] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 1:04 PM > To: 'Powerh-L (E-mail) > Cc: 'Terry Curran' > Subject: RE: Error > > > Under most circumstances that would be appropriate advice, > however, the > Cognos manuals are, at times, 'difficult' to decipher when > English is your > first language. So sometime RTFM only adds to the confusion. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Terry Curran [mailto:terrycurran@onetel.net.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:57 PM > To: john.webster@clear.net.nz; Ganapathi; powerh-l@cube.swau.edu > Subject: RE: Error > > > I think RTFM is what our indian colleagues should do first. > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of John Webster > Sent: 20 August 2002 20:45 > To: Ganapathi; powerh-l@cube.swau.edu > Subject: Re: Error > > > Methinks there is the opportunity for someone to run a > PowerHouse training > course > in India ? > > Ah, the delights of offshore outsourcing! > > > > > >Dear Sir, > > > >I am getting the following error message after PROCEDURE > FIND is >executed. > Getting the same message for independant programs as well as > >calling from > other programs also. > > > >"This action isn't valid for this screen." > > > >Can you please clarify on this. > > > >Thanks & Regards > >Ganapati > > > > > > > > > > > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > > > ---------------------------------- > John Webster > Wellington, New Zealand > One of the World Wide Websters > ------------------------------ > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > From BEdis@usbnc.org Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:46:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:46:38 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) G'day Rick I have to take objection to some of your remarks. 1. what do you mean by "run efficiently on hardware with a future"? I believe the Itanium 64 bit processor will be the leading CPU for systems for year to come. 2. At least two models of Oracle databases run on OpenVMS. Plus Oracle applications also run on OpenVMS. 3. C/S technology is so 1970s! :) Regards, Blue -----Original Message----- From: Rick Hill [mailto:rmhill@core.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 8:56 AM To: Olson, Ingemar; 'powerh-l@lists.swau.edu' Subject: Re: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) Hello, Ingemar -- I've consulted for quite a few years in Powerhouse environments on both VMS and Unix platforms. I think the majority of Powerhouse sites on VMS these days are legacy, where there is no perceived major benefit to doing an upgrade like that. These apps are either getting replaced by packages, re-written in newer technology, or not being enhanced. This may explain the low level of response. The pattern I have seen in the states is that if a VMS Powerhouse app is going to be enhanced or used in the medium-range, it is being migrated to Unix so it can run efficiently on hardware with a future and against a database such as Oracle. This also is a good first step to stage it better for being re-written eventually in client-server technology. All the best... Rick Hill Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A. > On August 8th I wrote: > > > There has been very little discussion on this group about > > upgrades to 8.30. > > > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > > > How about it folks? > > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > > what I'm most interested in hearing. > > Surprisingly (to me) I only got a handful of responses (5) and since > it's been a while since the last one I don't expect any more now. > > And the summary: > o Only 1 person had actually gone to 8.30, and had no major glitches. > o Two people had gone to intermediate versions (8,10, 8.20) and both > had negative comments ("struggling without POW", "very painful") > although the latter (at least) is proceeding to 8.30. > o One person is intending to, but is not in a rush. > o One person has no plans to upgrade (system on life-support). > > In other words, the complete gamut! > > However, I can't believe there are only 6 VMS / Powerhouse shops out > there. Did I not ask the right question? No-one working in the summer? > > If anyone else would like to comment, even if your situation doesn't > exactly match that in my question, I will re-summarize the results. > > Ingemar Olson > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l- request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l- request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > -- CoreComm Webmail. http://home.core.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From BEdis@usbnc.org Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:50:32 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 18:50:32 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Error Hey, I'll go! Who want to pay for my expenses? :) Blue -----Original Message----- From: John Webster [mailto:john.webster@clear.net.nz] Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 2:45 PM To: Ganapathi; powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Subject: Re: Error Methinks there is the opportunity for someone to run a PowerHouse training course in India ? Ah, the delights of offshore outsourcing! > > >Dear Sir, > >I am getting the following error message after PROCEDURE FIND is >executed. Getting the same message for independant programs as well as >calling from other programs also. > >"This action isn't valid for this screen." > >Can you please clarify on this. > >Thanks & Regards >Ganapati > > > > > > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > ---------------------------------- John Webster Wellington, New Zealand One of the World Wide Websters ------------------------------ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From bwelch@cox.net Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:06:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 21:06:15 -0400 From: Byron Welch bwelch@cox.net Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) I would second Rick's thoughts on this issue. I have seen a number of shops go to Unix in the last couple of years. Byron Welch Independent Consultant Providence, RI ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Hill" To: "Olson, Ingemar" ; Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) > Hello, Ingemar -- > > I've consulted for quite a few years in Powerhouse environments on both > VMS and Unix platforms. I think the majority of Powerhouse sites on > VMS these days are legacy, where there is no perceived major benefit to > doing an upgrade like that. These apps are either getting replaced by > packages, re-written in newer technology, or not being enhanced. This > may explain the low level of response. > > The pattern I have seen in the states is that if a VMS Powerhouse app > is going to be enhanced or used in the medium-range, it is being > migrated to Unix so it can run efficiently on hardware with a future > and against a database such as Oracle. This also is a good first step > to stage it better for being re-written eventually in client-server > technology. > > All the best... > > Rick Hill > Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A. > > > On August 8th I wrote: > > > > > There has been very little discussion on this group about > > > upgrades to 8.30. > > > > > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > > > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > > > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > > > > > How about it folks? > > > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > > > > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > > > > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > > > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > > > what I'm most interested in hearing. > > > > Surprisingly (to me) I only got a handful of responses (5) and since > > it's been a while since the last one I don't expect any more now. > > > > And the summary: > > o Only 1 person had actually gone to 8.30, and had no major glitches. > > o Two people had gone to intermediate versions (8,10, 8.20) and both > > had negative comments ("struggling without POW", "very painful") > > although the latter (at least) is proceeding to 8.30. > > o One person is intending to, but is not in a rush. > > o One person has no plans to upgrade (system on life-support). > > > > In other words, the complete gamut! > > > > However, I can't believe there are only 6 VMS / Powerhouse shops out > > there. Did I not ask the right question? No-one working in the summer? > > > > If anyone else would like to comment, even if your situation doesn't > > exactly match that in my question, I will re-summarize the results. > > > > Ingemar Olson > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l- > request@lists.swau.edu > > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l- > request@lists.swau.edu > > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > > > -- > CoreComm Webmail. > http://home.core.com > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From kbarrett@denkor.com Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:59:36 -0700 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:59:36 -0700 From: kbarrett@denkor.com kbarrett@denkor.com Subject: Autoreply: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #440 - 11 msgs I am out of the office (on vacation) until Tuesday, September 3. If your need cannot wait until then, please forward your request to helpdesk@denkor.com and they will assign someone to assist you. I will review all emails received during my absence after 9/3. Thanks! Karen Barrett Senior Program Analyst Denkor Dental Management Corp. (503) 644-6444 x4363 From kbarrett@denkor.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 04:21:19 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 04:21:19 -0700 From: kbarrett@denkor.com kbarrett@denkor.com Subject: Autoreply: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #441 - 1 msg I am out of the office (on vacation) until Tuesday, September 3. If your need cannot wait until then, please forward your request to helpdesk@denkor.com and they will assign someone to assist you. I will review all emails received during my absence after 9/3. Thanks! Karen Barrett Senior Program Analyst Denkor Dental Management Corp. (503) 644-6444 x4363 From Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 08:52:05 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 08:52:05 -0400 From: Johnson, Tracy Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) > -----Original Message----- > From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] > > G'day Rick > > I have to take objection to some of your remarks. > > 1. what do you mean by "run efficiently on hardware with a future"? I > believe the Itanium 64 bit processor will be the leading CPU > for systems for > year to come. > 2. At least two models of Oracle databases run on OpenVMS. > Plus Oracle > applications also run on OpenVMS. > 3. C/S technology is so 1970s! :) > > Regards, > Blue Like Bob said, a year to come. (At least.) {:-)) From PICKERIJ@norbord.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:22:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:22:41 -0400 From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) PICKERIJ@norbord.com Subject: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today I just received my email invitation to attend "Enterprise 2002" at any of a selection of North American cities. Does anyone know if there will be any ADT content at these events or are they strictly for the BI folks? From Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 09:54:30 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 09:54:30 -0700 From: Witkopp, Richard Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) Itanium (nee Merced) will be around for awhile, if for no other reason than HP's sponsorship, which they took on long before acquiring Compaq. That they are continuing the VMS port to Itanium indicates the Alpha platform will live on for at least a bit. > -----Original Message----- > From: Johnson, Tracy [mailto:Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 5:52 AM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > - sort of) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] > > > > G'day Rick > > > > I have to take objection to some of your remarks. > > > > 1. what do you mean by "run efficiently on hardware with a > future"? I > > believe the Itanium 64 bit processor will be the leading CPU > > for systems for > > year to come. > > 2. At least two models of Oracle databases run on OpenVMS. > > Plus Oracle > > applications also run on OpenVMS. > > 3. C/S technology is so 1970s! :) > > > > Regards, > > Blue > > > Like Bob said, a year to come. > > (At least.) > > {:-)) > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > From Jim_Barley@dpsk12.org Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:56:38 -0600 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:56:38 -0600 From: Barley, Jim Jim_Barley@dpsk12.org Subject: Upgrade to PowerHouse 8.30 on VMS This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24933.B75E72D4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 CQ0KCT4gPiBPbiBBdWd1c3QgOHRoIEkgd3JvdGU6DQoJPiA+DQoJPiA+ID4gVGhlcmUgaGFzIGJl 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HP and their sponsorship of product lines is open to healthy mistrust. Continuation of the VMS port to Itanium is just that...a VMS port and nothing else. Al Karman Lady Remington Jewelry alk@lady remington jewelry dot.com -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] On Behalf Of Witkopp, Richard Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:55 AM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) Itanium (nee Merced) will be around for awhile, if for no other reason than HP's sponsorship, which they took on long before acquiring Compaq. That they are continuing the VMS port to Itanium indicates the Alpha platform will live on for at least a bit. > -----Original Message----- > From: Johnson, Tracy [mailto:Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 5:52 AM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > - sort of) > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] > > > > G'day Rick > > > > I have to take objection to some of your remarks. > > > > 1. what do you mean by "run efficiently on hardware with a > future"? I > > believe the Itanium 64 bit processor will be the leading CPU > > for systems for > > year to come. > > 2. At least two models of Oracle databases run on OpenVMS. > > Plus Oracle > > applications also run on OpenVMS. > > 3. C/S technology is so 1970s! :) > > > > Regards, > > Blue > > > Like Bob said, a year to come. > > (At least.) > > {:-)) > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:39:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:39:25 -0700 From: Witkopp, Richard Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) So why would they spend all that money? HP is not the devious sort. They plan to bag MPE (?) and said so to the world. If they wanted to bag VMS they had the perfect opportunity. It would not have been a big shock to anybody if they had announced it when they acquired Compaq. > -----Original Message----- > From: Al Karman [mailto:alkarman@wideopenwest.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:22 AM > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > - sort of) > > > FWIW, I'd be particularly careful reading anything into anything else. > HP and their sponsorship of product lines is open to healthy > mistrust. Continuation of the VMS port to Itanium is just > that...a VMS > port and nothing else. > > Al Karman > Lady Remington Jewelry > alk@lady remington jewelry dot.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] > On Behalf Of Witkopp, Richard > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:55 AM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > - sort of) > > > Itanium (nee Merced) will be around for awhile, if for > no other reason than HP's sponsorship, which they took on > long before acquiring Compaq. That they are continuing the > VMS port to Itanium indicates the Alpha platform will live > on for at least a bit. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Johnson, Tracy [mailto:Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 5:52 AM > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > > - sort of) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] > > > > > > G'day Rick > > > > > > I have to take objection to some of your remarks. > > > > > > 1. what do you mean by "run efficiently on hardware with a > > future"? I > > > believe the Itanium 64 bit processor will be the leading CPU > > > for systems for > > > year to come. > > > 2. At least two models of Oracle databases run on OpenVMS. > > > Plus Oracle > > > applications also run on OpenVMS. > > > 3. C/S technology is so 1970s! :) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Blue > > > > > > Like Bob said, a year to come. > > > > (At least.) > > > > {:-)) > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: > > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > > subscriber. > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > From alkarman@wideopenwest.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:51:46 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:51:46 -0500 From: Al Karman alkarman@wideopenwest.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) Richard raises some good points...doesn't make them viable, just good...]:-) They bagged HP3000 and the MPE/iX 'ecosystem' <> spending lotta $$$. They were less than truthful to the 3000 world as to their intentions....as recently as 2000 there were long-range documents, etc. which contained the 3000 as a go-forward tool. I respect their decision.... He repeats - I'd be particularly careful reading anything into anything else. Al Karman Lady Remington Jewelry alk@lady reming tonjew elry dot.com So why would they spend all that money? HP is not the devious sort. They plan to bag MPE (?) and said so to the world. If they wanted to bag VMS they had the perfect opportunity. It would not have been a big shock to anybody if they had announced it when they acquired Compaq. > -----Original Message----- > From: Al Karman [mailto:alkarman@wideopenwest.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:22 AM > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > - sort of) > > > FWIW, I'd be particularly careful reading anything into anything else. > HP and their sponsorship of product lines is open to healthy > mistrust. Continuation of the VMS port to Itanium is just that...a > VMS port and nothing else. > > Al Karman > Lady Remington Jewelry > alk@lady remington jewelry dot.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] > On Behalf Of Witkopp, Richard > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:55 AM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > - sort of) > > > Itanium (nee Merced) will be around for awhile, if for > no other reason than HP's sponsorship, which they took on long before > acquiring Compaq. That they are continuing the VMS port to Itanium > indicates the Alpha platform will live on for at least a bit. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Johnson, Tracy [mailto:Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 5:52 AM > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > > - sort of) > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] > > > > > > G'day Rick > > > > > > I have to take objection to some of your remarks. > > > > > > 1. what do you mean by "run efficiently on hardware with a > > future"? I > > > believe the Itanium 64 bit processor will be the leading CPU for > > > systems for year to come. > > > 2. At least two models of Oracle databases run on OpenVMS. > > > Plus Oracle > > > applications also run on OpenVMS. > > > 3. C/S technology is so 1970s! :) > > > > > > Regards, > > > Blue > > > > > > Like Bob said, a year to come. > > > > (At least.) > > > > {:-)) > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: > > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > > subscriber. > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: > powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From PICKERIJ@norbord.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:00:48 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:00:48 -0400 From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) PICKERIJ@norbord.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) Do any of you know the status of Compaq's efforts to obtain certification by the US Gov't military empire and its contractors of OpenVMS as "DII COE" compliant"? For more info please see http://www.openvms.compaq.com/solutions/government/coe/ My reading of this suggests that Compaq wanted the Gov't certification, which, among other things, requires something like a 20 year commitment. Either they got it before the HP merger and now HP has to deliver on the commitment or HP sees some potential in a 20 year product line. It has also been suggested that the port of OpenVMS to IA64 isn't such a big deal since most of the tough grunt work was done moving from VAX to Alpha. I wouldn't count OpenVMS out yet. But I wouldn't go out and buy a new one today either, knowing who currently owns it. Regards, JWP > -----Original Message----- > From: Witkopp, Richard [SMTP:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:39 PM > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort > of) > > So why would they spend all that money? HP is not the > devious sort. They plan to bag MPE (?) and said so to > the world. If they wanted to bag VMS they had the perfect > opportunity. It would not have been a big shock to > anybody if they had announced it when they acquired Compaq. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Al Karman [mailto:alkarman@wideopenwest.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 10:22 AM > > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > > - sort of) > > > > > > FWIW, I'd be particularly careful reading anything into anything else. > > HP and their sponsorship of product lines is open to healthy > > mistrust. Continuation of the VMS port to Itanium is just > > that...a VMS > > port and nothing else. > > > > Al Karman > > Lady Remington Jewelry > > alk@lady remington jewelry dot.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] > > On Behalf Of Witkopp, Richard > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:55 AM > > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > > - sort of) > > > > > > Itanium (nee Merced) will be around for awhile, if for > > no other reason than HP's sponsorship, which they took on > > long before acquiring Compaq. That they are continuing the > > VMS port to Itanium indicates the Alpha platform will live > > on for at least a bit. > > > From kbarrett@denkor.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:59:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 10:59:06 -0700 From: kbarrett@denkor.com kbarrett@denkor.com Subject: Autoreply: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #442 - 9 msgs I am out of the office (on vacation) until Tuesday, September 3. If your need cannot wait until then, please forward your request to helpdesk@denkor.com and they will assign someone to assist you. I will review all emails received during my absence after 9/3. Thanks! Karen Barrett Senior Program Analyst Denkor Dental Management Corp. (503) 644-6444 x4363 From Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:09:47 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:09:47 -0700 From: Witkopp, Richard Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) It can't be that much of a snap - they've been working on it for over a year. I can't see where the microcode of the Itanium (which is supposed to have a migration path from x86) would be much like the Alpha (which has a migration path from VAX). > -----Original Message----- > From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:01 AM > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > Cc: Witkopp, Richard > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > - sort of) > It has also > been suggested that the port of OpenVMS to IA64 isn't such a > big deal since > most of the tough grunt work was done moving from VAX to Alpha. From darren.reely@latticesemi.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:20:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:20:01 -0700 From: Darren Reely darren.reely@latticesemi.com Subject: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today The annoying thing I notice about all (or most) of these events is that there are no locations in the Pacific Northwest. Basically from Vancouver B.C. down to Portland O.R. So, even if I was interested, I couldn't go. Darren Pickering, John (NORBORD) wrote: >I just received my email invitation to attend "Enterprise 2002" at any of a >selection of North American cities. > >Does anyone know if there will be any ADT content at these events or are >they strictly for the BI folks? > From Eric.Hoppe@steelscape-inc.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:21:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 11:21:20 -0700 From: Hoppe, Eric EP Eric.Hoppe@steelscape-inc.com Subject: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #442 - 9 msgs I think we should have a big online party to welcome Karen back from vacation. ---ehops Eric Hoppe Steelscape, Inc. Senior Systems Analyst Kalama, Washington 360.673.8247 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:03 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #442 - 9 msgs Send powerh-l mailing list submissions to powerh-l@lists.swau.edu To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu You can reach the person managing the list at powerh-l-admin@lists.swau.edu When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of powerh-l digest..." From george.j.wen@us.abb.com Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:18:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:18:12 -0500 From: george.j.wen@us.abb.com george.j.wen@us.abb.com Subject: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today --0__=p2l2VWpGxJjPSBd8tQfNHF5NmnPejKJfrOIGzL2hOm4ffod6T6b17BH3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Got something like that a couple of months ago. There should be an e-mail contact in the message if it's the same thing. The response was that it was for BI folks.. |-------------> |(Embedded | |image moved | |to file: | |pic02984.pcx)| | | |-------------> >--------------------------------------------------------------------| |"Pickering, John (NORBORD)" | |08/21/2002 11:22 AM | >--------------------------------------------------------------------| To: "'Powerhouse List'" cc: (bcc: George J. Wen/NB/USFAC/ABB) Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today Security Level:? Internal I just received my email invitation to attend "Enterprise 2002" at any of a selection of North American cities. Does anyone know if there will be any ADT content at these events or are they strictly for the BI folks? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. --0__=p2l2VWpGxJjPSBd8tQfNHF5NmnPejKJfrOIGzL2hOm4ffod6T6b17BH3 Content-type: application/octet-stream; name="pic02984.pcx" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="pic02984.pcx" Content-transfer-encoding: base64 CgUBCAAAAABBADEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAABQgABAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA= --0__=p2l2VWpGxJjPSBd8tQfNHF5NmnPejKJfrOIGzL2hOm4ffod6T6b17BH3-- From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:41:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:41:51 -0400 From: Deskin, Bob Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Subject: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today As far as I know, ADT will not be present at this year's User Days. However, I encourage you to attend if you have any interest in Business Intelligence. There's lots of interesting new stuff. We will be at HP World in Los Angeles in September. We will be in a booth with Client Systems. Bob Deskin PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com] Sent: August 21, 2002 12:23 PM To: 'Powerhouse List' Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today I just received my email invitation to attend "Enterprise 2002" at any of a selection of North American cities. Does anyone know if there will be any ADT content at these events or are they strictly for the BI folks? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:51:34 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 14:51:34 -0400 From: Deskin, Bob Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Subject: Upgrade to PowerHouse 8.30 on VMS This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24943.C5AF4630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Thanks Jim for the vote of confidence. We've had very good feedback on PowerHouse 8.30 on OpenVMS. The 8.30D release has been shipped back to the base. We're also getting good feedback on PowerHouse Web which is expected to go to production in the fall. I seem to be mentioned by name because I'm visible on the list, but I don't code. We have an excellent and dedicated team in ADT. Credit for the 8.30 release which brings the OpenVMS features into the Series 8 code stream belongs to Allison Hamilton and the other members of the ADT Server team. I'm mainly involved with PowerHouse Web these days. But again, the robustness of the product is a credit to our team, not to me. Bob Deskin PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Barley, Jim [mailto:Jim_Barley@dpsk12.org] Sent: August 21, 2002 12:57 PM To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu Subject: Upgrade to PowerHouse 8.30 on VMS > > On August 8th I wrote: > > > > > There has been very little discussion on this group about > > > upgrades to 8.30. > > > > > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > > > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > > > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > > > > > How about it folks? > > > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > > > > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > > > > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > > > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > > > what I'm most interested in hearing. > > > > Surprisingly (to me) I only got a handful of responses (5) and since > > it's been a while since the last one I don't expect any more now. > > > > And the summary: > > o Only 1 person had actually gone to 8.30, and had no major glitches. > > o Two people had gone to intermediate versions (8,10, 8.20) and both > > had negative comments ("struggling without POW", "very painful") > > although the latter (at least) is proceeding to 8.30. > > o One person is intending to, but is not in a rush. > > o One person has no plans to upgrade (system on life-support). > > > > In other words, the complete gamut! > > > > However, I can't believe there are only 6 VMS / Powerhouse shops out > > there. Did I not ask the right question? No-one working in the summer? > > > > If anyone else would like to comment, even if your situation doesn't > > exactly match that in my question, I will re-summarize the results. > > > > Ingemar Olson Hello Ingemar! We are a retirement system and have used VMS and PowerHouse for well over a decade. We are currently in a Beta test for PowerHouse 8.30Z1 and the corresponding version of PowerHouse Web. The discussed glitches encounterd in previous versions of POW are non existant on this release and PowerHouse Web is performing great. We will go live with this versions as soon as they are released for production. I understand they will be released as version 8.40C for PowerHouse and 2.40C for PowerHouse Web. Unless your Company has alot of spare greenbacks laying around, this is a good route to take. It will give you a web based environment without the hassels of the Client/Server environment. Just an opinion. The people at Cognos, specifically Bob Deskin, are totally dedicated to make this baby work. I think if used properly it could save millions in total re-writes for some of us. Have a great day. jim barley This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C24943.C5AF4630 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" powerh-l digest, Vol 1 #440 - 11 msgs
Thanks Jim for the vote of confidence. We've had very good feedback on PowerHouse 8.30 on OpenVMS. The 8.30D release has been shipped back to the base. We're also getting good feedback on PowerHouse Web which is expected to go to production in the fall.
 
I seem to be mentioned by name because I'm visible on the list, but I don't code. We have an excellent and dedicated team in ADT. Credit for the 8.30 release which brings the OpenVMS features into the Series 8 code stream belongs to Allison Hamilton and the other members of the ADT Server team. I'm mainly involved with PowerHouse Web these days. But again, the robustness of the product is a credit to our team, not to me.
 

Bob Deskin             
PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools
Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA
bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268

-----Original Message-----
From: Barley, Jim [mailto:Jim_Barley@dpsk12.org]
Sent: August 21, 2002 12:57 PM
To: powerh-l@cube.swau.edu
Subject: Upgrade to PowerHouse 8.30 on VMS


> > On August 8th I wrote:
> >
> > > There has been very little discussion on this group about
> > > upgrades to 8.30.
> > >
> > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one
> > > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide
> > > leads me to suspect that it may be the former.
> > >
> > > How about it folks?
> > > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans?
> > >
> > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in.
> > >
> > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS
> > > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course
> > > what I'm most interested in hearing.
> >
> > Surprisingly (to me) I only got a handful of responses (5) and since
> > it's been a while since the last one I don't expect any more now.
> >
> > And the summary:
> > o Only 1 person had actually gone to 8.30, and had no major glitches.
> > o Two people had gone to intermediate versions (8,10, 8.20) and both
> >   had negative comments ("struggling without POW", "very painful")
> >   although the latter (at least) is proceeding to 8.30.
> > o One person is intending to, but is not in a rush.
> > o One person has no plans to upgrade (system on life-support).
> >
> > In other words, the complete gamut!
> >
> > However, I can't believe there are only 6 VMS / Powerhouse shops out
> > there. Did I not ask the right question? No-one working in the summer?
> >
> > If anyone else would like to comment, even if your situation doesn't
> > exactly match that in my question, I will re-summarize the results.
> >
> > Ingemar Olson

 

Hello Ingemar!

We are a retirement system and have used VMS and PowerHouse for well over a decade.

We are currently in a Beta test for PowerHouse 8.30Z1 and the corresponding version of PowerHouse Web. The discussed glitches encounterd in previous versions of POW are non existant on this release and PowerHouse Web is performing great. We will go live with this versions as soon as they are released for production. I understand they will be released as version 8.40C for PowerHouse and 2.40C for PowerHouse Web.

Unless your Company has alot of spare greenbacks laying around, this is a good route to take. It will give you a web based environment without the hassels of the Client/Server environment. Just an opinion.

The people at Cognos, specifically Bob Deskin, are totally dedicated to make this baby work. I think if used properly it could save millions in total re-writes for some of us.

Have a great day.

jim barley

 

 


This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you.

------_=_NextPart_001_01C24943.C5AF4630-- From BEdis@usbnc.org Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:35:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:35:15 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) Ooh, that hurts! -----Original Message----- From: Johnson, Tracy [mailto:Tracy.Johnson@msiusa.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 7:52 AM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) > -----Original Message----- > From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] > > G'day Rick > > I have to take objection to some of your remarks. > > 1. what do you mean by "run efficiently on hardware with a future"? I > believe the Itanium 64 bit processor will be the leading CPU > for systems for > year to come. > 2. At least two models of Oracle databases run on OpenVMS. > Plus Oracle > applications also run on OpenVMS. > 3. C/S technology is so 1970s! :) > > Regards, > Blue Like Bob said, a year to come. (At least.) {:-)) = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From BEdis@usbnc.org Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:58:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:58:43 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) It's not quite that straight forward. I believe Intel was having a hard time getting it right developing a 64bit CPU. Compaq gave away all the intellectual property for the Alpha plus virtually the whole Alpha engineering team to Intel a year or so ago. So the Itanium that will actually be released will have alpha technology in it and no explicit X86 code. For that matter no explicit VAX code probably either. Backwards compatibility will be handled by emulation I think. The last I heard the team that is porting OpenVMS to the Itanium is right on schedule for a 2003 (late) release. Blue -----Original Message----- From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:10 PM To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) It can't be that much of a snap - they've been working on it for over a year. I can't see where the microcode of the Itanium (which is supposed to have a migration path from x86) would be much like the Alpha (which has a migration path from VAX). > -----Original Message----- > From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:01 AM > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > Cc: Witkopp, Richard > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > - sort of) > It has also > been suggested that the port of OpenVMS to IA64 isn't such a > big deal since > most of the tough grunt work was done moving from VAX to Alpha. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From BEdis@usbnc.org Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:59:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 20:59:44 -0500 From: Edis, Bob BEdis@usbnc.org Subject: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today That is a really sad thing and says a lot about Cognos' attitude towards ADT. -----Original Message----- From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:42 PM To: 'Powerhouse List' Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today As far as I know, ADT will not be present at this year's User Days. However, I encourage you to attend if you have any interest in Business Intelligence. There's lots of interesting new stuff. We will be at HP World in Los Angeles in September. We will be in a booth with Client Systems. Bob Deskin PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com] Sent: August 21, 2002 12:23 PM To: 'Powerhouse List' Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today I just received my email invitation to attend "Enterprise 2002" at any of a selection of North American cities. Does anyone know if there will be any ADT content at these events or are they strictly for the BI folks? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. 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But maybe there are issues with US Military contractual obligations to keep it going for twenty years or so. Neil -----Original Message----- From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] Sent: 21 August 2002 07:39 PM To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) So why would they spend all that money? HP is not the devious sort. They plan to bag MPE (?) and said so to the world. If they wanted to bag VMS they had the perfect opportunity. It would not have been a big shock to anybody if they had announced it when they acquired Compaq. From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:51:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 08:51:18 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) Alpha isn't much like VAX. The relationship is that DEC wrote a "compiler" for VAX assembler, so that all the VMS source code could be compiled for Alpha. They then tweaked what needed it. The port to Alpha went very smoothly, and bodes well for the port to Itanium. There's no hardware compatibility between Alpha and VAX. Alpha, however, is a stable, fast, production 64 bit CPU. At the time it was canned, its projected performance took it well ahead of Itanium's - and Itanium development was sliding so badly it looked unlikely to threaten Alpha. Canning it was an insane decision - a production chip capable of running VMS, Unix, and Windows NT. 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From steve_franklin@yahoo.com Thu, 22 Aug 2002 07:11:24 -0500 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 07:11:24 -0500 From: Steve Franklin steve_franklin@yahoo.com Subject: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today It is really frustrating that everything Cognos does from User Day Events to the marketing you see in magazines is targeted to BI. ADT seems to be treated like an unwanted step-child. In the Minneapolis area, there is a Cognos User Group. I have yet to see an agenda that has anything even close to ADT as a topic. -----Original Message----- From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 9:00 PM To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today That is a really sad thing and says a lot about Cognos' attitude towards ADT. -----Original Message----- From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:42 PM To: 'Powerhouse List' Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today As far as I know, ADT will not be present at this year's User Days. However, I encourage you to attend if you have any interest in Business Intelligence. There's lots of interesting new stuff. We will be at HP World in Los Angeles in September. We will be in a booth with Client Systems. Bob Deskin PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com] Sent: August 21, 2002 12:23 PM To: 'Powerhouse List' Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today I just received my email invitation to attend "Enterprise 2002" at any of a selection of North American cities. Does anyone know if there will be any ADT content at these events or are they strictly for the BI folks? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. 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Maybe Cognos should Cognos consider having a separate User Group Convention, even if it is on a smaller scale? Maybe in Chicago, an easy city to get to from most places in the states, and where there is still a somewhat concentrated amount of Powerhouse usage? For the international community, I don't know where would be best. I could see there being no user group activity at all if there hadn't been any new releases in years, and if PH Web didn't exist. But it's not like there isn't any movement within Cognos in the Powerhouse arena...there's the new 8.43 release on the way, and Powerhouse Web seems to be a happening thing. > That is a really sad thing and says a lot about Cognos' attitude towards > ADT. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:42 PM > To: 'Powerhouse List' > Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today > > > As far as I know, ADT will not be present at this year's User Days. However, > I encourage you to attend if you have any interest in Business Intelligence. > There's lots of interesting new stuff. > > We will be at HP World in Los Angeles in September. We will be in a booth > with Client Systems. > > Bob Deskin > PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools > Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA > bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com] > Sent: August 21, 2002 12:23 PM > To: 'Powerhouse List' > Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today > > > I just received my email invitation to attend "Enterprise 2002" at any of a > selection of North American cities. > > Does anyone know if there will be any ADT content at these events or are > they strictly for the BI folks? > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l- request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. 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Personally, I consider London (4 hours) too far to go unless the content is exceptionally relevant to me. And no, I don't get out much ;-) Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Hill [mailto:rmhill@core.com] > Sent: 22 August 2002 14:37 > To: bedis@usbnc.org; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today > > > yes - very sad. Unfortunately, this lends fuel to the "Powerhouse is > dieing" theory. > > Maybe Cognos should Cognos consider having a separate User Group > Convention, even if it is on a smaller scale? Maybe in Chicago, an > easy city to get to from most places in the states, and where there is > still a somewhat concentrated amount of Powerhouse usage? For the > international community, I don't know where would be best. > > I could see there being no user group activity at all if there hadn't > been any new releases in years, and if PH Web didn't exist. But it's > not like there isn't any movement within Cognos in the Powerhouse > arena...there's the new 8.43 release on the way, and Powerhouse Web > seems to be a happening thing. > > > That is a really sad thing and says a lot about Cognos' attitude > towards > > ADT. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:42 PM > > To: 'Powerhouse List' > > Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today > > > > > > As far as I know, ADT will not be present at this year's User Days. > However, > > I encourage you to attend if you have any interest in Business > Intelligence. > > There's lots of interesting new stuff. > > > > We will be at HP World in Los Angeles in September. We will be in a > booth > > with Client Systems. > > > > Bob Deskin > > PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools > > Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA > > bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com] > > Sent: August 21, 2002 12:23 PM > > To: 'Powerhouse List' > > Subject: RE: FREE Cognos User Day Event - Register Today > > > > > > I just received my email invitation to attend "Enterprise 2002" at > any of a > > selection of North American cities. > > > > Does anyone know if there will be any ADT content at these events or > are > > they strictly for the BI folks? > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l- > request@lists.swau.edu > > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > > > This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. > If you > > have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, > you > > may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any > > attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the > sender > > promptly by e-mail that you have done so. 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The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:48:32 -0700 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:48:32 -0700 From: Witkopp, Richard Richard.Witkopp@idt.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results - sort of) Compaq didn't exactly "give" it away, they were paid. Some may say too little, but they didn't want to enrich the lawyers any further, so it was the path of least resistance. There's been Alpha technology in Merced from the beginning. For that matter, there's Alpha technology in the Pentium. I didn't say there was explicit x86 code, but that there's a migration path. My understanding is that's why it's so hard to get it working, considering DEC, Sun, HP, and others have had 64 bit for awhile. > -----Original Message----- > From: Edis, Bob [mailto:BEdis@usbnc.org] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 6:59 PM > To: PowerHouse List (E-mail) > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > - sort of) > > > It's not quite that straight forward. I believe Intel was > having a hard > time getting it right developing a 64bit CPU. Compaq gave > away all the > intellectual property for the Alpha plus virtually the whole Alpha > engineering team to Intel a year or so ago. So the Itanium that will > actually be released will have alpha technology in it and no > explicit X86 > code. For that matter no explicit VAX code probably either. > Backwards > compatibility will be handled by emulation I think. > > The last I heard the team that is porting OpenVMS to the > Itanium is right on > schedule for a 2003 (late) release. > > Blue > > -----Original Message----- > From: Witkopp, Richard [mailto:Richard.Witkopp@idt.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 1:10 PM > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > - sort of) > > > It can't be that much of a snap - they've been working > on it for over a year. > > I can't see where the microcode of the Itanium (which is > supposed to have a migration path from x86) would be much > like the Alpha (which has a migration path from VAX). > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) [mailto:PICKERIJ@norbord.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:01 AM > > To: 'PowerHouse List (E-mail)' > > Cc: Witkopp, Richard > > Subject: RE: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results > > - sort of) > > > It has also > > been suggested that the port of OpenVMS to IA64 isn't such a > > big deal since > > most of the tough grunt work was done moving from VAX to Alpha. > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a > subscriber. > From stonecold99@hotmail.com Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:54:12 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:54:12 -0400 From: scott wagler stonecold99@hotmail.com Subject: displaying data to screen hi, i'm a newbie to powerhouse and have a very simple question. i am trying to display the results of a query to the screen to make sure that the query returns what i want. what command would i use to do this, thanks. scott. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:13:15 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:13:15 -0400 From: Nancy Tietz ntietz@MCARE.MED.UMICH.EDU Subject: displaying data to screen Perhaps it would be helpful to look at the manual for DEBUG. First compile the screen in DEBUG mode then run it in DEBUG mode. :QDESIGN DEBUG > USE mysource > EXIT :QUICK AUTO=myprog.OBJ ; INFO="DEBUG=SOURCE" The commands I use are: STEP 1 (or some other number of steps to skip to) DISPLAY fieldnames DISPLAY PRE (shows preset fields - very helpful) It will show you the screen as it progresses as well as where you're at in your code, and the result of what you enter. You could also emulate in QUIZ what you are trying to do in Quick and see if it works. Or you can create a simple screen that just shows the data first before adding in the bells and whistles. Hope that helps. Nancy -----Original Message----- From: scott wagler [mailto:stonecold99@hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:54 PM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: displaying data to screen hi, i'm a newbie to powerhouse and have a very simple question. i am trying to display the results of a query to the screen to make sure that the query returns what i want. what command would i use to do this, thanks. scott. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From PICKERIJ@norbord.com Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:26:51 -0400 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 13:26:51 -0400 From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) PICKERIJ@norbord.com Subject: displaying data to screen How about: QUIZ >access your_file >report all >set report device terminal >go Actually the 'set report device terminal' is the defualt so you don't really need it. > -----Original Message----- > From: scott wagler [SMTP:stonecold99@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:54 PM > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: displaying data to screen > > hi, > > i'm a newbie to powerhouse and have a very simple question. i am trying > to > display the results of a query to the screen to make sure that the query > returns what i want. > > what command would i use to do this, thanks. > > scott. > From mjohns@accubanc.com Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:39:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 12:39:29 -0500 From: mjohns@accubanc.com mjohns@accubanc.com Subject: displaying data to screen which product are you using "scott wagler" @cube.swau.edu on 08/23/2002 11:54:12 AM Sent by: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu cc: Subject: displaying data to screen hi, i'm a newbie to powerhouse and have a very simple question. i am trying to display the results of a query to the screen to make sure that the query returns what i want. what command would i use to do this, thanks. scott. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From merol.newman@ramesys.com Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:38:54 +0100 Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 20:38:54 +0100 From: Merol Newman merol.newman@ramesys.com Subject: displaying data to screen Hello Scott If this is what you meant (John's reply), unless your record is very small, you also need >set nohead Otherwise your screen will contain all headings and hardly any data. And if you want to look at more than 100 records, you also need >set report limit n ;where n is max no you want to display or >set report nolimit ;not valid if HP MPE Sometimes it's easier to look at the data one record at a time. To do this, with default labels included, use qdesign to build a very simple screen:- >screen >file [in ] >generate >build ;optional - saves as compiled screen >go If it says the screen limit has been exceeded, you'll have to edit the source code it has produced:- >save ;this saves the source, not the compiled screen edit anyname.qks (or vi or whatever) (rearrange layout to squeeze it all in, or remove some lines, or split some off into a slave screen). Then recompile:- qdesign >use anyname >go next time, run the compiled version anyname.qkc:- quick auto=anyname Abject apologies if you're not such a newbie as you make out! I thought at first maybe you wanted to display the results of a query in SQL used as a cursor. If so, the code for declaring the cursor would replace the ACCESS or FILE statements above, but apart from that it should work the same way. Have a good weekend, all you people over the ocean who are still at work! bye Merol merol.newman@ramesys.com Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788 823601 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Pickering, John (NORBORD) Sent: 23 August 2002 18:27 To: 'scott wagler'; Subject: RE: displaying data to screen How about: QUIZ >access your_file >report all >set report device terminal >go Actually the 'set report device terminal' is the defualt so you don't really need it. > -----Original Message----- > From: scott wagler [SMTP:stonecold99@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:54 PM > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: displaying data to screen > > hi, > > i'm a newbie to powerhouse and have a very simple question. i am trying > to > display the results of a query to the screen to make sure that the query > returns what i want. > > what command would i use to do this, thanks. > > scott. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From terrycurran@onetel.net.uk Sun, 25 Aug 2002 09:01:24 +0100 Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 09:01:24 +0100 From: Terry Curran terrycurran@onetel.net.uk Subject: displaying data to screen It woul be helpful if people are asking for assistance with PowerHouse if they quoted the PowerHouse version and operating system, as then replies could be formulated for the specific query!!! -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Merol Newman Sent: 23 August 2002 20:39 To: stonecold99@hotmail.com Cc: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: displaying data to screen Hello Scott If this is what you meant (John's reply), unless your record is very small, you also need >set nohead Otherwise your screen will contain all headings and hardly any data. And if you want to look at more than 100 records, you also need >set report limit n ;where n is max no you want to display or >set report nolimit ;not valid if HP MPE Sometimes it's easier to look at the data one record at a time. To do this, with default labels included, use qdesign to build a very simple screen:- >screen >file [in ] >generate >build ;optional - saves as compiled screen >go If it says the screen limit has been exceeded, you'll have to edit the source code it has produced:- >save ;this saves the source, not the compiled screen edit anyname.qks (or vi or whatever) (rearrange layout to squeeze it all in, or remove some lines, or split some off into a slave screen). Then recompile:- qdesign >use anyname >go next time, run the compiled version anyname.qkc:- quick auto=anyname Abject apologies if you're not such a newbie as you make out! I thought at first maybe you wanted to display the results of a query in SQL used as a cursor. If so, the code for declaring the cursor would replace the ACCESS or FILE statements above, but apart from that it should work the same way. Have a good weekend, all you people over the ocean who are still at work! bye Merol merol.newman@ramesys.com Ramesys, Eldon Way, Crick, Northamptonshire, UK. NN6 7SL phone 01788 822133/823831, fax 01788 823601 -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Pickering, John (NORBORD) Sent: 23 August 2002 18:27 To: 'scott wagler'; Subject: RE: displaying data to screen How about: QUIZ >access your_file >report all >set report device terminal >go Actually the 'set report device terminal' is the defualt so you don't really need it. > -----Original Message----- > From: scott wagler [SMTP:stonecold99@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 12:54 PM > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: displaying data to screen > > hi, > > i'm a newbie to powerhouse and have a very simple question. i am trying > to > display the results of a query to the screen to make sure that the query > returns what i want. > > what command would i use to do this, thanks. > > scott. > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:48:45 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:48:45 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded Anyone seen this ? Is there a work-around ? I've seen similar messages from Quick, fixable with QKGO, but this one comes from QDesign ... char*114 is OK. post-bucket is 20 bytes, post-otherref is 12, agents is 667, orders is 2565, and agent-class is 12. VMS 7.3, Alpha, RMS, PH 7.10G3. Thanks, Chris Q D E S I G N (7.10.G3) Copyright 1998 COGNOS INC. (ALPHA) Licensed PH-AXP-DEVELOPMENT for customer: 7053780001 CCA STATIONERY LIMITED 2/300 QD> set verify error noverify delete QD> screen post-bucket noaction nomode fieldmark actionbar startup on line 2 QD> temp agentn char*6 occurs 255 QD> file post-bucket occurs 15 cache close QD> access via agent-order-key request agentn, order-pad & QD> using (order-pad*65536*65536+nconvert(agentn[1:5])) QD> access via agent-key request agentn using nconvert(agentn[1:5]) QD> access sequential QD> file post-otherref designer close QD> QD> def oneweek date = date(-7,sysdate) QD> def pcls char*4 = "PG" if (ordcat="X") & QD> else "WEDD" if (ordcat="W") & QD> else "SIG" if (ordcat="S") QD> QD> file agents reference close QD> ; access via agent-key using agent-key of post-bucket QD> file orders reference close QD> select if (status-flag<>104) and (oneweek file agent-class reference close QD> actionmenu label "Find" action find QD> actionmenu label "Next" action next data QD> actionmenu label "Change" action fieldmark QD> actionmenu label "Commit" action update QD> actionmenu label "New" action append QD> actionmenu label "Delete" action delete mark QD> actionmenu label "Quit" action return QD> QD> temp orefs char*119 occurs with post-bucket *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. The unauthorized use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is forbidden. The contents of this message may be confidential and/or privileged, copyright CCA Group and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:17:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:17:52 -0400 From: Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org Subject: QKGO: Screen level parameter HPe3000; PowerHouse 8.19C The users are reporting the *D* screen level overflow. The QKGO is already set to 15, the allowable maximum. Other than telling users "don't do that" is there any other suggestion? Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Perot Health Care Systems (Harvard Pilgrim Health Care account) voice: 617-509-1212 fax: 617-509-1955 pager: 781-226-2431 From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:21:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:21:23 -0400 From: Deskin, Bob Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded Take a look at your temp agentn that occurs 255 versus the primary file that occurs 15. I'll bet things are getting confused internally. Once you have a repeating primary file, anything that repeats should repeat the same number of times. First try commenting out the temp agentn to see if that's it. If so, try moving it to after the primary. Bob Deskin PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] Sent: August 28, 2002 6:49 AM To: PowerH List Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded Anyone seen this ? Is there a work-around ? I've seen similar messages from Quick, fixable with QKGO, but this one comes from QDesign ... char*114 is OK. post-bucket is 20 bytes, post-otherref is 12, agents is 667, orders is 2565, and agent-class is 12. VMS 7.3, Alpha, RMS, PH 7.10G3. Thanks, Chris Q D E S I G N (7.10.G3) Copyright 1998 COGNOS INC. (ALPHA) Licensed PH-AXP-DEVELOPMENT for customer: 7053780001 CCA STATIONERY LIMITED 2/300 QD> set verify error noverify delete QD> screen post-bucket noaction nomode fieldmark actionbar startup on line 2 QD> temp agentn char*6 occurs 255 QD> file post-bucket occurs 15 cache close QD> access via agent-order-key request agentn, order-pad & QD> using (order-pad*65536*65536+nconvert(agentn[1:5])) QD> access via agent-key request agentn using nconvert(agentn[1:5]) QD> access sequential QD> file post-otherref designer close QD> QD> def oneweek date = date(-7,sysdate) QD> def pcls char*4 = "PG" if (ordcat="X") & QD> else "WEDD" if (ordcat="W") & QD> else "SIG" if (ordcat="S") QD> QD> file agents reference close QD> ; access via agent-key using agent-key of post-bucket QD> file orders reference close QD> select if (status-flag<>104) and (oneweek file agent-class reference close QD> actionmenu label "Find" action find QD> actionmenu label "Next" action next data QD> actionmenu label "Change" action fieldmark QD> actionmenu label "Commit" action update QD> actionmenu label "New" action append QD> actionmenu label "Delete" action delete mark QD> actionmenu label "Quit" action return QD> QD> temp orefs char*119 occurs with post-bucket *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not necessarily those of CCA Group. 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From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:23:37 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:23:37 -0400 From: Deskin, Bob Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Subject: QKGO: Screen level parameter Presumably you're doing something that iterates subscreen calls or allowing the user to do the same. There's a SCREENLEVEL function that you can test and issue a message telling them they can't go any further. Bob Deskin PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org [mailto:Leonard_Berkowitz@harvardpilgrim.org] Sent: August 28, 2002 7:18 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: QKGO: Screen level parameter HPe3000; PowerHouse 8.19C The users are reporting the *D* screen level overflow. The QKGO is already set to 15, the allowable maximum. Other than telling users "don't do that" is there any other suggestion? Thanks. -- Leonard S. Berkowitz Perot Health Care Systems (Harvard Pilgrim Health Care account) voice: 617-509-1212 fax: 617-509-1955 pager: 781-226-2431 = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. This message may contain privileged and/or confidential information. If you have received this e-mail in error or are not the intended recipient, you may not use, copy, disseminate or distribute it; do not open any attachments, delete it immediately from your system and notify the sender promptly by e-mail that you have done so. Thank you. From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:28:31 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:28:31 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > Take a look at your temp agentn that occurs 255 versus the > primary file that > occurs 15. I'll bet things are getting confused internally. Once > you have a > repeating primary file, anything that repeats should repeat the > same number > of times. First try commenting out the temp agentn to see if that's it. If > so, try moving it to after the primary. That is a slightly eccentric construction, but agentn occurs before post-bucket because it's used in the access statement for the purpose of validating a check digit which isn't stored in the file (via lookup on agents), but is required for user entry. And temp doesn't support "cache", afaik. If there's a better way of doing that, without altering the file structure, I'd be interested. Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] > Sent: August 28, 2002 6:49 AM > To: PowerH List > Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > Anyone seen this ? > Is there a work-around ? > I've seen similar messages from Quick, fixable with QKGO, but > this one comes > from QDesign ... > char*114 is OK. > post-bucket is 20 bytes, post-otherref is 12, agents is 667, > orders is 2565, > and agent-class is 12. > > VMS 7.3, Alpha, RMS, PH 7.10G3. > > Thanks, > Chris > > Q D E S I G N (7.10.G3) > Copyright 1998 COGNOS INC. (ALPHA) > Licensed PH-AXP-DEVELOPMENT for customer: 7053780001 CCA > STATIONERY LIMITED > 2/300 > > QD> set verify error noverify delete > QD> screen post-bucket noaction nomode fieldmark actionbar > startup on line 2 > QD> temp agentn char*6 occurs 255 > QD> file post-bucket occurs 15 cache close > QD> access via agent-order-key request agentn, order-pad & > QD> using (order-pad*65536*65536+nconvert(agentn[1:5])) > QD> access via agent-key request agentn using nconvert(agentn[1:5]) > QD> access sequential > QD> file post-otherref designer close > QD> > QD> def oneweek date = date(-7,sysdate) > QD> def pcls char*4 = "PG" if (ordcat="X") & > QD> else "WEDD" if (ordcat="W") & > QD> else "SIG" if (ordcat="S") > QD> > QD> file agents reference close > QD> ; access via agent-key using agent-key of post-bucket > QD> file orders reference close > QD> select if (status-flag<>104) and (oneweek QD> file agent-class reference close > QD> actionmenu label "Find" action find > QD> actionmenu label "Next" action next data > QD> actionmenu label "Change" action fieldmark > QD> actionmenu label "Commit" action update > QD> actionmenu label "New" action append > QD> actionmenu label "Delete" action delete mark > QD> actionmenu label "Quit" action return > QD> > QD> temp orefs char*119 occurs with post-bucket > *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not > necessarily those of CCA Group. 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Whilst this message has been scanned, CCA Group cannot guarantee that it is virus free or compatible with your systems and accepts no responsibility for any loss or damage arising from its use. The recipient is advised to run their own anti-virus software. If you receive this message in error please contact postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it from your computer systems. From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:35:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:35:19 -0400 From: Deskin, Bob Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded Is there any reason for agentn to occur 255? Try with no occurs first, then possibly 15. Just to see if this is the problem. As for temps and cache, temps that are related to a cached primary file are also cached. Bob Deskin PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] Sent: August 28, 2002 7:29 AM To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > Take a look at your temp agentn that occurs 255 versus the > primary file that > occurs 15. I'll bet things are getting confused internally. Once > you have a > repeating primary file, anything that repeats should repeat the > same number > of times. First try commenting out the temp agentn to see if that's it. If > so, try moving it to after the primary. That is a slightly eccentric construction, but agentn occurs before post-bucket because it's used in the access statement for the purpose of validating a check digit which isn't stored in the file (via lookup on agents), but is required for user entry. And temp doesn't support "cache", afaik. If there's a better way of doing that, without altering the file structure, I'd be interested. Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] > Sent: August 28, 2002 6:49 AM > To: PowerH List > Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > Anyone seen this ? > Is there a work-around ? > I've seen similar messages from Quick, fixable with QKGO, but > this one comes > from QDesign ... > char*114 is OK. > post-bucket is 20 bytes, post-otherref is 12, agents is 667, > orders is 2565, > and agent-class is 12. > > VMS 7.3, Alpha, RMS, PH 7.10G3. > > Thanks, > Chris > > Q D E S I G N (7.10.G3) > Copyright 1998 COGNOS INC. (ALPHA) > Licensed PH-AXP-DEVELOPMENT for customer: 7053780001 CCA > STATIONERY LIMITED > 2/300 > > QD> set verify error noverify delete > QD> screen post-bucket noaction nomode fieldmark actionbar > startup on line 2 > QD> temp agentn char*6 occurs 255 > QD> file post-bucket occurs 15 cache close > QD> access via agent-order-key request agentn, order-pad & > QD> using (order-pad*65536*65536+nconvert(agentn[1:5])) > QD> access via agent-key request agentn using nconvert(agentn[1:5]) > QD> access sequential > QD> file post-otherref designer close > QD> > QD> def oneweek date = date(-7,sysdate) > QD> def pcls char*4 = "PG" if (ordcat="X") & > QD> else "WEDD" if (ordcat="W") & > QD> else "SIG" if (ordcat="S") > QD> > QD> file agents reference close > QD> ; access via agent-key using agent-key of post-bucket > QD> file orders reference close > QD> select if (status-flag<>104) and (oneweek QD> file agent-class reference close > QD> actionmenu label "Find" action find > QD> actionmenu label "Next" action next data > QD> actionmenu label "Change" action fieldmark > QD> actionmenu label "Commit" action update > QD> actionmenu label "New" action append > QD> actionmenu label "Delete" action delete mark > QD> actionmenu label "Quit" action return > QD> > QD> temp orefs char*119 occurs with post-bucket > *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not > necessarily those of CCA Group. 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From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:35:46 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:35:46 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: QKGO: Screen level parameter We saw something similar, after users convinced us they had a need for a second "thread" (to answer the phone while doing other work), and then got themselves lost and confused. We fixed them by highlighting on screen when they were "nested" in this way (we could tell via screenlevel), and disallowing triple nesting. We didn't actually use Powerhouse threads - I forget whether that was purely to enable us to keep a handle on user confusion, or whether there was some other reason. Is your screen system really too deep, or circular as described ? I presume circular, from the "Don't do that" comment. "Don't do that" is about right, but you can give them some help. 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From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:48:37 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 12:48:37 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > -----Original Message----- > From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:bob.deskin@cognos.com] > Sent: 28 August 2002 12:37 > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > Is there any reason for agentn to occur 255? Try with no occurs > first, then > possibly 15. Just to see if this is the problem. Tried that - didn't fix the problem. > As for temps and cache, temps that are related to a cached > primary file are > also cached. Related how ? I can't put occurs with on the temp, because it comes first. I could put it on the primary I suppose ? Thanks, anyway. I can live with 114 for the time being. Now, haven't you got a beach to go to or something ? Have a good holiday, Chris > Bob Deskin > PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools > Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA > bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] > Sent: August 28, 2002 7:29 AM > To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > > > Take a look at your temp agentn that occurs 255 versus the > > primary file that > > occurs 15. I'll bet things are getting confused internally. Once > > you have a > > repeating primary file, anything that repeats should repeat the > > same number > > of times. First try commenting out the temp agentn to see if > that's it. 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From jthunter@nbnet.nb.ca Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:59:06 -0300 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:59:06 -0300 From: John Hunter jthunter@nbnet.nb.ca Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded Chris, I think we are all curious as to why agentn occurs 255 times. -John -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Chris Sharman Sent: August 28, 2002 8:49 AM To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > -----Original Message----- > From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:bob.deskin@cognos.com] > Sent: 28 August 2002 12:37 > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > Is there any reason for agentn to occur 255? Try with no occurs > first, then > possibly 15. Just to see if this is the problem. Tried that - didn't fix the problem. > As for temps and cache, temps that are related to a cached > primary file are > also cached. Related how ? I can't put occurs with on the temp, because it comes first. I could put it on the primary I suppose ? Thanks, anyway. I can live with 114 for the time being. Now, haven't you got a beach to go to or something ? Have a good holiday, Chris > Bob Deskin > PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools > Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA > bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] > Sent: August 28, 2002 7:29 AM > To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > > > Take a look at your temp agentn that occurs 255 versus the > > primary file that > > occurs 15. I'll bet things are getting confused internally. Once > > you have a > > repeating primary file, anything that repeats should repeat the > > same number > > of times. First try commenting out the temp agentn to see if > that's it. 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From chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:40:35 +0100 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:40:35 +0100 From: Chris Sharman chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hunter [mailto:jthunter@nbnet.nb.ca] > Sent: 28 August 2002 14:05 > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > Chris, > > I think we are all curious as to why agentn occurs 255 times. post-bucket occurs 15 cache I'd like agentn occurs with post-bucket, but agentn precedes it. Before cache was added, it was "occurs 15". With cache (limit 255), it's unclear to me whether it should be 15 or 255 to match, but 255 has worked for ages, until I needed to enlarge the other string. I can see a case for both, but I've no idea what's right. When I added cache, it seemed to introduce the possibility of another 240 records which would need the temp, so that's what I did. Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Chris Sharman > Sent: August 28, 2002 8:49 AM > To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:bob.deskin@cognos.com] > > Sent: 28 August 2002 12:37 > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > > > Is there any reason for agentn to occur 255? Try with no occurs > > first, then > > possibly 15. Just to see if this is the problem. > > Tried that - didn't fix the problem. > > > As for temps and cache, temps that are related to a cached > > primary file are > > also cached. > > Related how ? I can't put occurs with on the temp, because it > comes first. I > could put it on the primary I suppose ? > > Thanks, anyway. > I can live with 114 for the time being. > Now, haven't you got a beach to go to or something ? > Have a good holiday, > > Chris > > > Bob Deskin > > PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools > > Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA > > bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] > > Sent: August 28, 2002 7:29 AM > > To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > > > > > > > > Take a look at your temp agentn that occurs 255 versus the > > > primary file that > > > occurs 15. I'll bet things are getting confused internally. Once > > > you have a > > > repeating primary file, anything that repeats should repeat the > > > same number > > > of times. First try commenting out the temp agentn to see if > > that's it. 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From jthunter@nbnet.nb.ca Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:48:19 -0300 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:48:19 -0300 From: John Hunter jthunter@nbnet.nb.ca Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded See Qdesign Statement Reference p 481 in your 7.10 manual I see three options: 1) remove the cache from the primary file (don't think you want to do this) or 2) change the occurs with primary-file to occurs 15 or 3) Get cognos to fix this 'feature' -John -----Original Message----- From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Chris Sharman Sent: August 28, 2002 8:49 AM To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > -----Original Message----- > From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:bob.deskin@cognos.com] > Sent: 28 August 2002 12:37 > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > Is there any reason for agentn to occur 255? Try with no occurs > first, then > possibly 15. Just to see if this is the problem. Tried that - didn't fix the problem. > As for temps and cache, temps that are related to a cached > primary file are > also cached. Related how ? I can't put occurs with on the temp, because it comes first. I could put it on the primary I suppose ? Thanks, anyway. I can live with 114 for the time being. Now, haven't you got a beach to go to or something ? Have a good holiday, Chris > Bob Deskin > PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools > Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA > bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] > Sent: August 28, 2002 7:29 AM > To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > > > Take a look at your temp agentn that occurs 255 versus the > > primary file that > > occurs 15. 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From Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:50:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:50:19 -0400 From: Deskin, Bob Bob.Deskin@Cognos.COM Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded OCCURS 15 CACHE means that you show 15 at a time and have a dynamic cache up to 255 records. While this might be worked around, you probably should file this as a bug. Seems to me that simply going from 114 to 119 shouldn't make it error, but there may be an internal limit. As for a beach, it's a little cold - down to 50 F at night. And I'm at home, doing odds and ends. Besides, I promised I'd check e-mail once or twice a day. Bob Deskin PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 -----Original Message----- From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] Sent: August 28, 2002 9:41 AM To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > -----Original Message----- > From: John Hunter [mailto:jthunter@nbnet.nb.ca] > Sent: 28 August 2002 14:05 > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > Chris, > > I think we are all curious as to why agentn occurs 255 times. post-bucket occurs 15 cache I'd like agentn occurs with post-bucket, but agentn precedes it. Before cache was added, it was "occurs 15". With cache (limit 255), it's unclear to me whether it should be 15 or 255 to match, but 255 has worked for ages, until I needed to enlarge the other string. I can see a case for both, but I've no idea what's right. When I added cache, it seemed to introduce the possibility of another 240 records which would need the temp, so that's what I did. Chris > > -----Original Message----- > From: powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu > [mailto:powerh-l-admin@cube.swau.edu]On Behalf Of Chris Sharman > Sent: August 28, 2002 8:49 AM > To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Deskin, Bob [mailto:bob.deskin@cognos.com] > > Sent: 28 August 2002 12:37 > > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > > > Is there any reason for agentn to occur 255? Try with no occurs > > first, then > > possibly 15. Just to see if this is the problem. > > Tried that - didn't fix the problem. > > > As for temps and cache, temps that are related to a cached > > primary file are > > also cached. > > Related how ? I can't put occurs with on the temp, because it > comes first. I > could put it on the primary I suppose ? > > Thanks, anyway. > I can live with 114 for the time being. > Now, haven't you got a beach to go to or something ? > Have a good holiday, > > Chris > > > Bob Deskin > > PowerHouse Web Product Manager, Application Development Tools > > Cognos Inc. 3755 Riverside Drive, Ottawa ON K1G 4K9 CANADA > > bob.deskin@cognos.com (613) 738-1338 ext 7268 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] > > Sent: August 28, 2002 7:29 AM > > To: Deskin, Bob; powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > > Subject: RE: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > > > > > > > > Take a look at your temp agentn that occurs 255 versus the > > > primary file that > > > occurs 15. I'll bet things are getting confused internally. Once > > > you have a > > > repeating primary file, anything that repeats should repeat the > > > same number > > > of times. First try commenting out the temp agentn to see if > > that's it. If > > > so, try moving it to after the primary. > > > > That is a slightly eccentric construction, but agentn occurs before > > post-bucket because it's used in the access statement for the purpose of > > validating a check digit which isn't stored in the file (via lookup on > > agents), but is required for user entry. > > And temp doesn't support "cache", afaik. > > > > If there's a better way of doing that, without altering the file > > structure, > > I'd be interested. > > > > Chris > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Chris Sharman [mailto:chris.sharman@ccagroup.co.uk] > > > Sent: August 28, 2002 6:49 AM > > > To: PowerH List > > > Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded > > > > > > > > > Anyone seen this ? > > > Is there a work-around ? > > > I've seen similar messages from Quick, fixable with QKGO, but > > > this one comes > > > from QDesign ... > > > char*114 is OK. > > > post-bucket is 20 bytes, post-otherref is 12, agents is 667, > > > orders is 2565, > > > and agent-class is 12. > > > > > > VMS 7.3, Alpha, RMS, PH 7.10G3. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Chris > > > > > > Q D E S I G N (7.10.G3) > > > Copyright 1998 COGNOS INC. 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From hok@scanconsult.dk Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:17:00 +0200 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 17:17:00 +0200 From: Hans-Ole Kaae, ScanConsult hok@scanconsult.dk Subject: Using Message-files in PH 4GL, help needed... (HP e3000, MPE/iX 6.5 TurboIMAGE XL, PH 8.19.C4) Hi fellow listers, We have been using MPE Message Files in an application for years. Until now we have been posting data to these message files, while other apps have been reading the data off the files. Now we want to read and write to a Message File in 2 PowerHouse programs. The reading program is supposed to read the records in the Message Files as they are created - and since reading is destructive, the MSG-file gets empty, forcing the program to wait until new data arrives. (Event-controlled). The file is declared in the PDL-dict as DIRECT MPE. (Sequential has been tried - but to no avail). In Qdesign the file is declared Designer (Open Read Share was added - didn't help). I keep getting an "Operation inconsistent with access type" MPE-error in Quick when trying a 'while retrieving sequential' construct. I know I can just copy the data from to MSG-file to a normal flat file - but it would be great to see the nice and well-working MSG-concept at it's best... I wonder if PowerHouse in fact has real support for MPE Message Files? I really will appreciate any info on the subject - and will be interested in knowing if and how others have seen this work. TIA! Mange hilsner / With kind regards Hans-Ole =========================================================== E-mail: hok@scanconsult.dk Cell Phone: +45 4042 5507 =========================================================== ScanConsult IT-Partners ApS Voice : +45 8738 7474 Jegstrupvej 96A Fax : +45 8738 7475 DK-8361 Hasselager Support : support@scanconsult.dk Denmark Sales : sales@scanconsult.dk http://www.scanconsult.dk = ParaSuite : A Suite of Air Cargo Handling solutions = = ParaSafe : A Suite of IT-Security solutions = = Partners : Hewlett-Packard, Cognos, Microsoft and more = From darren.reely@latticesemi.com Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:16:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:16:06 -0700 From: Darren Reely darren.reely@latticesemi.com Subject: *E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded Chris, I'm not sure this was suggested. Did you try to specify a smaller CACHE size. This worked for my test code. There seems to be some internal limit. Try starting with some multple of 15, like file post-bucket occurs 15 cache 30 close Also I don't think you need an OCCURS on the agentn field. I did not need it in my test code. I placed the agentn field inside and before the cluster and the result set was the same. I also copied your access statements with success. Well, within my emulation of the coding. Darren Chris Sharman wrote: >Anyone seen this ? >Is there a work-around ? >I've seen similar messages from Quick, fixable with QKGO, but this one comes >from QDesign ... >char*114 is OK. >post-bucket is 20 bytes, post-otherref is 12, agents is 667, orders is 2565, >and agent-class is 12. > >VMS 7.3, Alpha, RMS, PH 7.10G3. > >Thanks, >Chris > >Q D E S I G N (7.10.G3) >Copyright 1998 COGNOS INC. (ALPHA) >Licensed PH-AXP-DEVELOPMENT for customer: 7053780001 CCA STATIONERY LIMITED >2/300 > >QD> set verify error noverify delete >QD> screen post-bucket noaction nomode fieldmark actionbar startup on line 2 >QD> temp agentn char*6 occurs 255 >QD> file post-bucket occurs 15 cache close >QD> access via agent-order-key request agentn, order-pad & >QD> using (order-pad*65536*65536+nconvert(agentn[1:5])) >QD> access via agent-key request agentn using nconvert(agentn[1:5]) >QD> access sequential >QD> file post-otherref designer close >QD> >QD> def oneweek date = date(-7,sysdate) >QD> def pcls char*4 = "PG" if (ordcat="X") & >QD> else "WEDD" if (ordcat="W") & >QD> else "SIG" if (ordcat="S") >QD> >QD> file agents reference close >QD> ; access via agent-key using agent-key of post-bucket >QD> file orders reference close >QD> select if (status-flag<>104) and (oneweekQD> file agent-class reference close >QD> actionmenu label "Find" action find >QD> actionmenu label "Next" action next data >QD> actionmenu label "Change" action fieldmark >QD> actionmenu label "Commit" action update >QD> actionmenu label "New" action append >QD> actionmenu label "Delete" action delete mark >QD> actionmenu label "Quit" action return >QD> >QD> temp orefs char*119 occurs with post-bucket >*E* The internal buffer size limit has been exceeded. > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Any views expressed in this message are those of the sender and not >necessarily those of CCA Group. 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If >you receive this message in error please contact >postmaster@ccagroup.co.uk immediately, destroy any copies and delete it >from your computer systems. > >= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = >Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu >Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu >http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l >This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. > From PICKERIJ@norbord.com Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:08:16 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:08:16 -0400 From: Pickering, John (NORBORD) PICKERIJ@norbord.com Subject: Using Message-files in PH 4GL, help needed... non-MPE readers can press delete now :-) Hans-Ole: I've been writing to MSG files for years with both Quick and Qtp. In the dictionary the file is defined as organization DIRECT and type MPE. In Qdesign I use: >file msgfile designer open semiexclusive append I really don't know if this is what's required -- I just found a combination of options that worked and now I copy the file statement from program to program :-) Because it's "semiexclusive" it can have only one writer at a time. So I code an explicit "close msgfile" after every put -- no big deal since all the code around it is pretty much designer stuff anyway. Since it's a designer file and all the fields are set with let verbs the file is not opened until just before the put -- no single user has it open for long. Lot's of fopen's but it works. In Qtp I use: >output msgfile add and >set file msgfile open semiexclusive append But since there is no explicit open and close control in Qtp, I add a file equate to specify the mpe NOLOCK parameter which Qtp seems to respect. Sorry, but I can't help you much with reading MSG files with PowerHouse components. I played around for a while MANY years ago trying to get it to work (version 5.01 I think :-) but never really succeeded. If I remember correctly, I could never get any PH component to "hang a read" (i.e. wait for a record when the file was empty) -- I think the standard reaction of both Quick and Quiz is to simply close the file and terminate. I do use Quick running in batch to process records written to a MSG file by STR's Fax/3000 (or whatever dumb name they're calling it now). This works because Fax/3000 keeps the file open for write until the service is stopped. But as soon as Fax/3000 closes the MSG file the Quick process stops too. If only we could set a couple of those foptions on a file that Quick has open :-) Hopeful sidebar: Now that the PowerHouse code has been merged across platforms there should be a bunch of stuff to support VAX mailboxes. Since these are basically just MSG files with another name, maybe the next mpe version could more fully support mpe MSG files. But I think we know how likely Cognos is to enhance the mpe version :-) Please let the list know if you have more success than I've had. Regards, JWP > -----Original Message----- > From: Hans-Ole Kaae, ScanConsult [SMTP:hok@scanconsult.dk] > Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:17 AM > To: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subject: Using Message-files in PH 4GL, help needed... > > (HP e3000, MPE/iX 6.5 TurboIMAGE XL, PH 8.19.C4) > > Hi fellow listers, > > We have been using MPE Message Files in an application for years. Until > now we have been posting data to these message files, while other apps > have been reading the data off the files. > > Now we want to read and write to a Message File in 2 PowerHouse > programs. The reading program is supposed to read the records in the > Message Files as they are created - and since reading is destructive, > the MSG-file gets empty, forcing the program to wait until new data > arrives. (Event-controlled). > > The file is declared in the PDL-dict as DIRECT MPE. (Sequential has > been tried - but to no avail). > > In Qdesign the file is declared Designer (Open Read Share was added - > didn't help). > > I keep getting an "Operation inconsistent with access type" MPE-error > in Quick when trying a 'while retrieving sequential' > construct. > > I know I can just copy the data from to MSG-file to a normal flat file - > but it would be great to see the nice and well-working MSG-concept at > it's best... > > I wonder if PowerHouse in fact has real support for MPE Message Files? > > I really will appreciate any info on the subject - and will be > interested in knowing if and how others have seen this work. > > TIA! > > Mange hilsner / With kind regards > > Hans-Ole > > =========================================================== > E-mail: hok@scanconsult.dk Cell Phone: +45 4042 5507 > =========================================================== > ScanConsult IT-Partners ApS Voice : +45 8738 7474 > Jegstrupvej 96A Fax : +45 8738 7475 > DK-8361 Hasselager Support : support@scanconsult.dk > Denmark Sales : sales@scanconsult.dk > http://www.scanconsult.dk > = ParaSuite : A Suite of Air Cargo Handling solutions = > = ParaSafe : A Suite of IT-Security solutions = > = Partners : Hewlett-Packard, Cognos, Microsoft and more = > > > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Mailing list: powerh-l@lists.swau.edu > Subscribe: "subscribe" in message body to powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > Unsubscribe: "unsubscribe" in message body to > powerh-l-request@lists.swau.edu > http://lists.swau.edu/mailman/listinfo/powerh-l > This list is closed, thus to post to the list you must be a subscriber. From IOlson@saputo.com Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:35:21 -0700 Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:35:21 -0700 From: Olson, Ingemar IOlson@saputo.com Subject: Powerhouse 7.10/8.30 VMS upgrade (survey results) On August 8th I wrote: > There has been very little discussion on this group about > upgrades to 8.30. > > Either that means that few have attempted it yet or that no-one > has had any issues worth posting. A perusal of the upgrade guide > leads me to suspect that it may be the former. > > How about it folks? > If you're on VMS and 7.10, what are your plans? > > You may reply privately and I will post the results when they're in. > > We are on OpenVMS (Alpha) 7.1-2 using Powerhouse 7.10G1 with RMS > and Oracle RDB 7.0-21, so issues relating to those are of course > what I'm most interested in hearing. I did receive a few more responses since my interim summary last week. Summary (13 total): o Two people have actually gone to 8.30, with positive comments. o Three people have gone to intermediate versions (8,10, 8.20). Two had negative comments ("struggling without POW", "very painful") while one is running dual versions (8.20 QTP only) happily. o Five people are intending to upgrade. o Three people have no plans (systems on life-support, or "stable"). Of course I have no idea whether this small sample is representative of the world at large, but assuming it is, then it would appear that many people are still sitting on the fence, but 8.30 is likely to be a good step (and an improvement over 8.10/8.20). Perhaps we will hear more as more people actually do the upgrade. Ingemar Olson From george.nekolny@denverwater.org Fri, 30 Aug 2002 09:30:58 -0600 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 09:30:58 -0600 From: Nekolny, George B. george.nekolny@denverwater.org Subject: Problem between PowerHouse and Oracle This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2503A.3D53E9F0 Content-Type: text/plain I am attempting to update a table in an Oracle database with data from an application developed in-house using PH 8.20.D. The Oracle database resides on a Windows 2000 server and PowerHouse is running on OpenVMS 7.2-1. When I developed the program to update the Oracle test database, everything worked fine. Then, when I tried to place the PowerHouse program (QTP) into production, I encountered constraint errors. I checked the table description with Qhsow and found a difference - see "Null Values Allowed" in table header below: 2002/08/29 TEST_MAXIMO Page 1 R E C O R D R E P O R T For DICTIONARY: PROD_USER_C:[GBN]TEST_MAXIMO.PDC Record: MAXIMO.CHARTOFACCOUNTS of Database: TMAX Organization: RELATIONAL Null Values Allowed:Yes Type: ORACLE Hold Cursor: Unspecified Open: ORACLE@MAXIMO@TESTMAX/xxxxxxx Record Size: 913 Bytes 2002/08/29 PROD_MAXIMO Page 1 R E C O R D R E P O R T For DICTIONARY: PROD_USER_C:[GBN]PROD_MAXIMO.PDC Record: MAXIMO.CHARTOFACCOUNTS of Database: AMAX Organization: RELATIONAL Null Values Allowed:No Type: ORACLE Hold Cursor: Unspecified Open: ORACLE@MAXIMO@ADMINMAX/xxxxxxx Record Size: 913 Bytes The test database and the production database are on two servers, but both are running are running Windows 2000 v 5.0.2195 SP 2. The Oracle DBA showed me that both databases are identical in their description. He added that Oracle has no concept of placing a "Not Null" constraint on an entire table. Some subtle difference must exist somewhere that makes PowerHouse think the entire table has a not null constraint on it. Does anyone have an answer. George B. Nekolny Denver Water Dept. (303) 628-6243 George.Nekolny@denverwater.org ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2503A.3D53E9F0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Problem between PowerHouse and Oracle

I am attempting to update a table in = an Oracle database with data from an application developed in-house = using PH 8.20.D.  The Oracle database resides on a Windows 2000 = server and PowerHouse is running on OpenVMS 7.2-1.  When I = developed the program to update the Oracle test database, everything = worked fine.  Then, when I tried to place the PowerHouse program = (QTP) into production, I encountered constraint errors.  I checked = the table description with Qhsow and found a difference - see "Null = Values Allowed" in table header below:



2002/08/29       &nbs= p;           &nbs= p; = TEST_MAXIMO          &= nbsp;           &= nbsp; Page    1
         &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;   R E C O R D   R E P O R T
         &n= bsp;   For DICTIONARY:  = PROD_USER_C:[GBN]TEST_MAXIMO.PDC
    = Record:           = ;  MAXIMO.CHARTOFACCOUNTS
    of = Database:        TMAX
    = Organization:       RELATIONAL
    Null Values = Allowed:Yes
    = Type:           &= nbsp;   ORACLE
    Hold = Cursor:        Unspecified
    = Open:           &= nbsp;   ORACLE@MAXIMO@TESTMAX/xxxxxxx
    Record = Size:        913 Bytes




2002/08/29       &nbs= p;           &nbs= p; = PROD_MAXIMO          &= nbsp;           &= nbsp; Page    1
         &n= bsp;           &n= bsp;   R E C O R D   R E P O R T
         &n= bsp;   For DICTIONARY:  = PROD_USER_C:[GBN]PROD_MAXIMO.PDC
    = Record:           = ;  MAXIMO.CHARTOFACCOUNTS
    of = Database:        AMAX
    = Organization:       RELATIONAL
    Null Values = Allowed:No
    = Type:           &= nbsp;   ORACLE
    Hold = Cursor:        Unspecified
    = Open:           &= nbsp;   ORACLE@MAXIMO@ADMINMAX/xxxxxxx
    Record = Size:        913 Bytes

The test database and the production = database are on two servers, but both are running are running Windows = 2000 v 5.0.2195 SP 2.  The Oracle DBA showed me that both = databases are identical in their description.  He added that = Oracle has no concept of placing a "Not Null" constraint on an entire = table. 

Some subtle difference must exist = somewhere that makes PowerHouse think the entire table has a not null = constraint on it.  Does anyone have an answer.




George B. Nekolny
Denver Water Dept.
(303) 628-6243
George.Nekolny@denverwater.org

------_=_NextPart_001_01C2503A.3D53E9F0-- From Bill.Michael@ipaper.com Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:30:57 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:30:57 -0500 From: Bill D Michael Bill.Michael@ipaper.com Subject: Problem between PowerHouse and Oracle In the PDL, you can put "DATABASE AMAX TYPE ORACLE NULL VALUES ALLOWED OPEN &" Note the null values statement in the PDL... maybe your PDL entries are different? Bill ------------------ "This posting reflects the individual views and opinions of the author and does not necessarily represent the views and opinions of International Paper. I am attempting to update a table in an Oracle database with data from an application developed in-house using PH 8.20.D.  The Oracle database resides on a Windows 2000 server and PowerHouse is running on OpenVMS 7.2-1.  When I developed the program to update the Oracle test database, everything worked fine.  Then, when I tried to place the PowerHouse program (QTP) into production, I encountered constraint errors.  I checked the table description with Qhsow and found a difference - see "Null Values Allowed" in table header below: The test database and the production database are on two servers, but both are running are running Windows 2000 v 5.0.2195 SP 2.  The Oracle DBA showed me that both databases are identical in their description.  He added that Oracle has no concept of placing a "Not Null" constraint on an entire table. Some subtle difference must exist somewhere that makes PowerHouse think the entire table has a not null constraint on it.  Does anyone have an answer. George B. Nekolny Denver Water Dept. (303) 628-6243 George.Nekolny@denverwater.org From george.nekolny@denverwater.org Fri, 30 Aug 2002 14:22:25 -0600 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 14:22:25 -0600 From: Nekolny, George B. george.nekolny@denverwater.org Subject: Problem between PowerHouse and Oracle Darren, I didn't have anything to do with the decision to have two instances of the MAXIMO database. TMAX is used for testing purposes and runs on one server; AMAX is the production version and runs on a different server. I had to compile two different dictionaries to deal with this situation. This is how I got into trouble. I was sure I used the same script to LOAD the production dictionary, but I apparently did not, or as I said before, inadvertently placed a "NOT" regarding null values (I don't recall doing it) in the database declaration in the dictionary .PDL. As you know, I would have to change values here (passwords etc.) when dealing with two different databases. Again, I thank you very much for pointing me in the right direction. -----Original Message----- From: Darren Reely [mailto:darren.reely@latticesemi.com] Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:14 PM To: Nekolny, George B. Subject: Re: Problem between PowerHouse and Oracle George, The other thing that struck me as odd is you have two Database declarations; TMAX and AMAX. We have Oracle running on a Solaris box where the PH code also resides. We use OPS$USER to connect to the database defined by ORACLE_SID. This is why we only have one database declaration. Which database we connect to depends on where the code is executed. I have successfully experimented setting up a second database declaration to access production from the development box also. For that I had to use your method. So, I am wondering if there is any advantage in have two declarations? Any disadvantages. I would think that when you create a file statement in a Quick source file you would have to decide which database to use. In our case we just do it once as in FILE STEP_TABLE IN MFG. Do you have to alter your code for compiling to producion? Am I missing something? Thank you, Darren. P.S. I also notice your running a different version of Maximo than we are. Nekolny, George B. wrote: >BINGO! Thank you very much. I don't remember typing "NOT" in the >source, so I never double checked it. > >-----Original Message----- >From: Darren Reely [mailto:darren.reely@latticesemi.com] >Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 10:47 AM >To: Nekolny, George B. >Subject: Re: Problem between PowerHouse and Oracle > > >This is a bit of a guess... > >In my data dictionary I declare "Null values allowed". Are you sure >your production and development dictionaries are from the same source >from the same time? I susspect that production somehow got compiled >with "Null values NOT allowed". > >Here is my database declaration... > >Database >MFG & > Type >ORACLE & > Null values >allowed & > Open >ORACLE@OPS$USER & > Owner PBSYS > > >Darren. > > >Nekolny, George B. wrote: > >>I am attempting to update a table in an Oracle database with data from >>an application developed in-house using PH 8.20.D. The Oracle >>database resides on a Windows 2000 server and PowerHouse is running on >>OpenVMS 7.2-1. When I developed the program to update the Oracle test >>database, everything worked fine. Then, when I tried to place the >>PowerHouse program (QTP) into production, I encountered constraint >>errors. I checked the table description with Qhsow and found a >>difference - see "Null Values Allowed" in table header below: >> >> >> >>2002/08/29 TEST_MAXIMO >>Page 1 >> R E C O R D R E P O R T >> For DICTIONARY: PROD_USER_C:[GBN]TEST_MAXIMO.PDC >> Record: MAXIMO.CHARTOFACCOUNTS >> of Database: TMAX >> Organization: RELATIONAL >> Null Values Allowed:Yes >> Type: ORACLE >> Hold Cursor: Unspecified >> Open: ORACLE@MAXIMO@TESTMAX/xxxxxxx >> Record Size: 913 Bytes >> >> >> >> >>2002/08/29 PROD_MAXIMO >>Page 1 >> R E C O R D R E P O R T >> For DICTIONARY: PROD_USER_C:[GBN]PROD_MAXIMO.PDC >> Record: MAXIMO.CHARTOFACCOUNTS >> of Database: AMAX >> Organization: RELATIONAL >> Null Values Allowed:No >> Type: ORACLE >> Hold Cursor: Unspecified >> Open: ORACLE@MAXIMO@ADMINMAX/xxxxxxx >> Record Size: 913 Bytes >> >>The test database and the production database are on two servers, but >>both are running are running Windows 2000 v 5.0.2195 SP 2. The Oracle >>DBA showed me that both databases are identical in their description. >>He added that Oracle has no concept of placing a "Not Null" constraint >>on an entire table. >> >>Some subtle difference must exist somewhere that makes PowerHouse >>think the entire table has a not null constraint on it. Does anyone >>have an answer. >> >> >> >> >>George B. Nekolny >>Denver Water Dept. >>(303) 628-6243 >>George.Nekolny@denverwater.org >> > From tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:34:23 -0400 Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:34:23 -0400 From: Tim Cummings tim.cummings@frequencymarketing.com Subject: Contractor needed for 4-6 month project. 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Frequency Marketing, Inc a loyalty solutions company in = Cincinnati, is looking for an Impromptu/Powerplay Administrator with experience in Oracle/SQL/PL SQL.  = Project entails analyzing tables in an existing Oracle database, creating indexes (where necessary), administering an impromptu catalog adding joins, weighting = tables, tuning for user access and making modifications to an existing series of Powercubes.

 

Interested ?

 

Contact:

Sally Rowe

Frequency Marketing, Inc.

6101 Meijer Drive

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Sally.rowe@frequencymarketing.com

 

 

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